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Post #472521  Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:48 am 
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Igor Stephanovs...as told by Ray Parlour.

https://www.balls.ie/football/ray-parlo ... nal-333476

I wonder if this is true.

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Post #472522  Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:10 am 
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Are you saying he was on drugs.

I suspect he was on PEDs, yes. He admitted himself in an interview a couple of years back that "sport was impossible without doping". Didn't Wenger also say a few years back that when he signed certain players, blood levels were abnormal in a few of them?

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Post #472523  Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:21 am 
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I suspect he was on PEDs, yes. He admitted himself in an interview a couple of years back that "sport was impossible without doping". Didn't Wenger also say a few years back that when he signed certain players, blood levels were abnormal in a few of them?

Yeah but, I mean, this was far from stale and boring Arsenal:

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Darren wrote:
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Are you saying he was on drugs.

I suspect he was on PEDs, yes. He admitted himself in an interview a couple of years back that "sport was impossible without doping". Didn't Wenger also say a few years back that when he signed certain players, blood levels were abnormal in a few of them?


They can't have been very effective, I watched him at Barnet and he came back from summer training vastly over weight.

Just read those comments he made which are bizarre and would indicate he may have however wasn't he the Russian captain ? It's par for the course he's going to say something pro Russia as Putin has a habit of putting bullets in heads of those who oppose the state.


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The gooner seem pretty sure Ancellotti is coming this summer

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TOP GUN wrote:
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I suspect he was on PEDs, yes. He admitted himself in an interview a couple of years back that "sport was impossible without doping". Didn't Wenger also say a few years back that when he signed certain players, blood levels were abnormal in a few of them?


They can't have been very effective, I watched him at Barnet and he came back from summer training vastly over weight.

Just read those comments he made which are bizarre and would indicate he may have however wasn't he the Russian captain ? It's par for the course he's going to say something pro Russia as Putin has a habit of putting bullets in heads of those who oppose the state.

It's the only explanation I can find for his dramatic decline in form after a few months. He went from top class to bang average.

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I suspect he was on PEDs, yes. He admitted himself in an interview a couple of years back that "sport was impossible without doping". Didn't Wenger also say a few years back that when he signed certain players, blood levels were abnormal in a few of them?

Yeah but, I mean, this was far from stale and boring Arsenal:

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This was sensational.

Our defending was not.

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Post #472528  Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:25 pm 
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Not sure about these Malcom rumours.
Looks exciting but I think we should be looking at someone a bit more established.
Would love Draxler and Mahrez as replacements for Özil and Sanchez.
They would be my first choices and 2 deals seemingly easy to get over the line.
Havent mentioned Lemar because too many rumours he prefers Liverpool and 90 million is just ridiculous.
80 gets you Draxler AND Mahrez.


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Not sure about these Malcom rumours.
Looks exciting but I think we should be looking at someone a bit more established.
Would love Draxler and Mahrez as replacements for Özil and Sanchez.
They would be my first choices and 2 deals seemingly easy to get over the line.
Havent mentioned Lemar because too many rumours he prefers Liverpool and 90 million is just ridiculous.
80 gets you Draxler AND Mahrez.

Mahrez would be a better signing if getting fourth place this season is the target. I don't really care about that though, so give me the potential Brazilian whizkid who can dribble, pass, and score wonder goals with a cracking left foot. Might not pan out, but would at least be exciting to follow.


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david.d wrote:
Not sure about these Malcom rumours.
Looks exciting but I think we should be looking at someone a bit more established.
Would love Draxler and Mahrez as replacements for Özil and Sanchez.
They would be my first choices and 2 deals seemingly easy to get over the line.
Havent mentioned Lemar because too many rumours he prefers Liverpool and 90 million is just ridiculous.
80 gets you Draxler AND Mahrez.

Why shouldn't we get them all? We've made £40m in profit this window and are about to make another £50m from sales of Walcott and Sanchez. There is your £90m for Lemar to just break even for the season. Then we could actually spend what should be a reasonable transfer budget of £80m for a club of our size and revenue and get Mahrez and Draxler.


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If Allerdyce is desperate for Theo we should squeeze the money from them. Everton have lots of money, time for us to be a bit more ruthless. £20m isn't enough. Liverpool want £30m for Sturridge


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Hazuki wrote:
I remember Ronaldinho's peak at Barcelona as being longer. He was only there for five seasons, and the last one really wasn't that great. Him being compared to the all-time greats was done very prematurely it must be said considering how short his peak was compared to most of them. Henry as a comparison had seven straight seasons with 20+ goals, and five seasons scoring 30 or more.

His peak was relatively short but he was stellar. He was also quite unique. The body swerve combined with the outrageous flicks and stunning control. Magnificent footballer and so much fun to watch.

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Ljungberg also. Watched him vs England and signed him immediately for £3m. That was Wenger at his best too, taking an ingenious punt. The result, one of the best goalscoring widemen in the era with important goals and assists |(one in particular) that will live in the memory banks forever.

Overmars and Petit in '97 also have to be up there despite the fact their spells were relatively short.


I know some will disagree but Gilberto was an inspired signing on the back of a WC. No expensive either, was it £6m or something for a WC winner.

Exactly what we need right now in the middle of the park, a strong athlete with some defensive nous and a decent technique.

Excellent signing and I completely agree, he is just what we need now. A no-nonsense player with excellent ability to read the game defensively. And a master of the necessary but innocuous foul.

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Rich wrote:
If Allerdyce is desperate for Theo we should squeeze the money from them. Everton have lots of money, time for us to be a bit more ruthless. £20m isn't enough. Liverpool want £30m for Sturridge

Totally agree. Just offer Everton 30 million quid to take him of our hands and be done with it


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They can't have been very effective, I watched him at Barnet and he came back from summer training vastly over weight.

Just read those comments he made which are bizarre and would indicate he may have however wasn't he the Russian captain ? It's par for the course he's going to say something pro Russia as Putin has a habit of putting bullets in heads of those who oppose the state.

It's the only explanation I can find for his dramatic decline in form after a few months. He went from top class to bang average.

He was good in his first full season too. I wouldn't put it down to drugs, as there should have been more than just Arshavin.

An issue I have with the Russian doping scandal is that the rest of the world is pointing fingers as if everyone else is clean. There was obviously something underhand happening in Spain. You have the Nike stuff in US athletics and now British cycling is looking very dodgy. Personally, I think athletics is still riddled with it and I think rugby has issues too. Football is just too financially monstrous to be clean.

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Best signing must be Henry for me. Vieira, Pires, Petit, Anelka, Campbell all great, but Henry more than anyone gave us a chance to win against any team. Didn’t matter how good they were, with Henry on the pitch there was a chance he’d score a goal or two (or three) against anyone when he was on his game. Best player in the world for several years. He could’ve cost twice as much and I’d still see him as our best signing.

He was absolutely robbed of at least two Ballon d’Ors as well, just look at the top three from Henry’s best years:

2002: Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Oliver Kahn
2003: Nedved, Henry, Maldini
2004: Shevchenko, Deco, Ronaldinho
2005: Ronaldinho, Lampard, Gerrard
2006: Cannavaro, Buffon, Henry

The only one who come even close to Henry those years are Ronaldinho, with a nod to Kahn and Buffon as it’s hard to compare keepers and outfield players. Henry was the man.


100%. Ronaldinho was the only competitor and even that was dubious. Henry is a country mile the best striker Arsenal has ever had and porbably will have for a long time.


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Post #472537  Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:32 pm 

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The gooner seem pretty sure Ancellotti is coming this summer

http://onlinegooner.com/article.php?sec ... lig9tGnyhA

Although Kevin was also sure Wenger would leave last summer, too!


  
 
 
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Wenger was great at seeing undervalued players who could play his style and overwhelm opposition in attack. The opposition caught up tactically and then he had no idea how to deal with it. That's about years 1 -10 and 10 - 20 in a nutshell for me.


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I wanted Ancelotti after Chelsea got rid of him and think he'd improve the current squad by 20% without too much trouble.


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If Allerdyce is desperate for Theo we should squeeze the money from them. Everton have lots of money, time for us to be a bit more ruthless. £20m isn't enough. Liverpool want £30m for Sturridge


Eff Fat Sam. The guy is a brutish man who has some deep rooted hatred for Wenger. its personal with him.

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Alexis Sanchez: Arsenal target Bordeaux's Malcom as they prepare to sell Chileanhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42657272

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If Allerdyce is desperate for Theo we should squeeze the money from them. Everton have lots of money, time for us to be a bit more ruthless. £20m isn't enough. Liverpool want £30m for Sturridge


Eff Fat Sam. The guy is a brutish man who has some deep rooted hatred for Wenger. its personal with him.

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Wanyama is a brick outhouse, but can barely pass more than 15 yards and is a totally different player, who without Dembele or Ericsson looks ordinary as hell. Kante? Very good at certain things, but has only won 1 game against Arsenal since coming to England, and has generally been outmanouvered by our midfield. Would probably be a very good partner for Xhaka. Xhaka is defensively suspect and not mobile. Kante is mobile, defensively great but has a very limited passing range.

Xhaka may not be Petit 2.0 as he was advertised, but he's a lot better than people realise. There is a reason Bayern were looking at him before Vidal became available.

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I wouldn't say Kante has limited passing. Yes wanyama is a destroyer but was always good againest us when playing for saints but I'd still prefer him to Xhaka.

The reason why I would be saying Xhaka is mainly due to the fee and importance of the role on our backbone. I'm not saying he's our worst ever player just signing. If we'd spent 15-18 million on him I wouldn't consider him Wengers biggest mistake in the market at all as we would be able to get most of that back when selling him but it's double that which should ensure we are getting proven quality. He's better than El Nenny for example but was 25 million pounds more expensive, for that 25 million you get some slightly better passing and a little more aggression and that's it.

We really needed him to be good and he's just been largely a liability. It really hasn't been a good piece of business and Wengers inability to restructure our midfield has been a major problem in recent seasons


Without getting into a drawn out one here, I totally disagree with what you say here to the degree that would suggest we have fundamentally different understandings of the game...

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Interesting who the forum thinks is wengers worst ever signing?

Has to be Jeffers for me. Arshavin is a good shout, but he at least had a good first year or so before he fell off a cliff. Jeffers was pretty expensive at the time, and made absolutely no positive contribution at all. Baptista is a candidate based on expectations, but as it was only a year-long loan it didn’t really matter all that much. Stepanovs has to be mentioned for sheer uselessness as a footballer.

Reyes would be another one for me – like Arshavin he had a great first year or so but then completely fell off. Considering transfer fee, expectations etc he’s definitely up there, and I think him not panning out really hurt us. Watched him sometimes for Atletico and later for Sevilla and he could still completely take over a game when he wanted to (which was usually once or twice per season). Infuriating player.


We got most of our money back on Reyes though, and his late contribution was vital for going undefeated in 2004, so for that reason, he'll always be worth it for me, despite not panning out. He also is our 3rd best number of assists in a season I think.

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Sanchez and Walcott out with Malcom (not Malcolm!) and Lemar in would be a great transfer window for me. Would be kind of fun to see Sanchez go to United and still not win any big titles (they’re going nowhere with Mourinho) but I hope we do not want Mkhitaryan in an exchange deal. Just the money will do.


If we somehow got Mkhitaryan and any cash, I'd bite as I think he'd be twice the player under Wenger. Not sure he'd take the necessary pay cut though, having been pushed by his agent into turning us down for Utd in the first place.

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Other bad signings Eboue and Denilsen. Both didn't financially didn't cost much but denilsen played about 100 times for arsenal and Eboue 132 so it took Wenger and awfully long time to realise those 2 players were not up to scratch to the detriment of our team.


To be fair, Eboue was excellent in his first season when Wenger deigned to allow Keown and Bould do defensive coaching (and lest we forget, a lovely dive to win the free-kick from which Sol scored in the Champion's League final before that *%^@ linesman screwed us for Barca's equaliser - as Almunia did for their winner!).

Denilson? Very good as an occasional squad player, but when he stepped up to the gig full time, he wasn't up to it.

Both would have been excellent signings if relied on rather less than they were.

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Here's my New Year wish list ......... For once I'm more eager to see people f*** off than us make new signings because any new signing would soon be programmed to play the same insipid Wengerball .

Have a major clean out Walcott , Sanchez , Bellerin , Özil , Coquelin , Čech , Ospina , Mertesacker , Cazorla , Wilshere

Promote the kids have a mediocre season , finish eighth ...Wenger f****s off ...... doesn't hang on as a scout , manager , director , advisor , tea boy ....... nothing ......and the new season we get a new manager , who makes his own signings , adopts much more direct style , learn to defend cohesively and I can get back to liking Arsenal Football Club .

If Walcott goes I'll be drunk for a week .

So Pete, it'll be a normal week for you if Walcott goes...


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Talking about duff signings. What about that player from the German fifth division? What the hell was that about?

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If Allerdyce is desperate for Theo we should squeeze the money from them. Everton have lots of money, time for us to be a bit more ruthless. £20m isn't enough. Liverpool want £30m for Sturridge



I wouldn't be playing high stakes Texas Hold Em on this ocassion ...we save 7.2 million a year on his wages .

The opportunity to see the useless little pr*** warming up in someone elses colours is too good to blow .

He should be donating half his wages to charity every week the amount of effort he puts in or gaoled for robbery .


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Wenger was great at seeing undervalued players who could play his style and overwhelm opposition in attack. The opposition caught up tactically and then he had no idea how to deal with it. That's about years 1 -10 and 10 - 20 in a nutshell for me.

We went from a team of talented Titans ......Bergkamp , Henry , Pires , Edu , Campbell , Lehmann , Vieira , Petit , Senderos all over six feet to a team of f***&^***f midgets .

The opposition didn't catch up ...Wenger lost the plot


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John wrote:
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If Walcott goes I'll be drunk for a week .


So Pete, it'll be a normal week for you if Walcott goes...



:laughing7: I might paint the picture of the hard arse no nonsense drunk of the month Johnny Boy but the rum vodka etc doesn't feature much these days ...stinking hot day three or four beers is good .

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If Allerdyce is desperate for Theo we should squeeze the money from them. Everton have lots of money, time for us to be a bit more ruthless. £20m isn't enough. Liverpool want £30m for Sturridge



I wouldn't be playing high stakes Texas Hold Em on this ocassion ...we save 7.2 million a year on his wages .



You found the abacus then?

Agree wholeheartedly with your comment - he's a cheat for taking those wages. In any other business he'd have been performance managed out a long time ago. And as for those empty platitudes (is that the right word) to the press, the club should have banned him from speaking.

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If Allerdyce is desperate for Theo we should squeeze the money from them. Everton have lots of money, time for us to be a bit more ruthless. £20m isn't enough. Liverpool want £30m for Sturridge


Eff Fat Sam. The guy is a brutish man who has some deep rooted hatred for Wenger.


and what's so wrong with that .... most of this forum hate Wenger .

I'd rather sit down for a chin wag with Big Sam than Arsene any day of the week .


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I wouldn't be playing high stakes Texas Hold Em on this ocassion ...we save 7.2 million a year on his wages .



You found the abacus then?

Agree wholeheartedly with your comment - he's a cheat for taking those wages. In any other business he'd have been performance managed out a long time ago. And as for those empty platitudes (is that the right word) to the press, the club should have banned him from speaking.

True John .... I worked for dude once , making some large farm gates , hand rails etc ... made a complete pigs ear of the job took four days to eventually get everything ship shape ........... I said pay me for two .

I struggle to see how someone can happily accept huge wages for doing so little .

You retired yet ...?


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kiwipete wrote:
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You found the abacus then?

Agree wholeheartedly with your comment - he's a cheat for taking those wages. In any other business he'd have been performance managed out a long time ago. And as for those empty platitudes (is that the right word) to the press, the club should have banned him from speaking.

True John .... I worked for dude once , making some large farm gates , hand rails etc ... made a complete pigs ear of the job took four days to eventually get everything ship shape ........... I said pay me for two .

I struggle to see how someone can happily accept huge wages for doing so little .

You retired yet ...?


Not just yet - but down to months now. 11 months and 20 days to be exact! :laughing7:

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Wenger confirms that Alexis will go if they can find a replacement;that he would have sold him earlier if a replacement could be found; that he would do things the same again.
https://www.arsenal.com/news/wenger-giv ... 50568C0DF1

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Talking about duff signings. What about that player from the German fifth division? What the hell was that about?

Stefan malz and alberto Mendez. 2 bizarre signings. Amaury bischoff too


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The man doesn't seem to see the world burning around him. We are literally sat around waiting for 2019 to come



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The man doesn't seem to see the world burning around him. We are literally sat around waiting for 2019 to come



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Talking about duff signings. What about that player from the German fifth division? What the hell was that about?

Stefan malz and alberto Mendez. 2 bizarre signings. Amaury bischoff too

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