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Post #490281  Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:44 pm 
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We are supposedly close to signing another German GK - Schubert...
Hopefully not an unfinished work...

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Post #490282  Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:43 pm 
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old man of hoy wrote:
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We are supposedly close to signing another German GK - Schubert...
Hopefully not an unfinished work...



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Post #490283  Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:47 pm 
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Wonder what happens with Bielik this summer. He’s basically said he’s not going to play U23 football next year, and not should he.
He’s got the Euro U21 championships for Poland this summer so there won’t be a big opportunity to show Emery what he can do.
My feeling is if Arsenal are being as ruthless as they say then he’ll be sold this summer. He spent a successful season on loan to Charlton in league 1, it’s a big step from that to Arsenal.


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Post #490285  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:54 am 
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https://futaa.com/article/184521/arsenal-coach-banned-after-aggressive-behaviour-towards-referee

I coached my son's team for the last few years (he's 14). It's a big problem in the game. Some people behave ina totally inappropriate manner. Equally childish and aggressive. Very disappointing that it would be the case at Arsenal.

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Post #490286  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:03 am 
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Wonder what happens with Bielik this summer. He’s basically said he’s not going to play U23 football next year, and not should he.
He’s got the Euro U21 championships for Poland this summer so there won’t be a big opportunity to show Emery what he can do.
My feeling is if Arsenal are being as ruthless as they say then he’ll be sold this summer. He spent a successful season on loan to Charlton in league 1, it’s a big step from that to Arsenal.


wasn't he hailed initially as the Polish Vieira? The initial video I saw of him said there was some promise in him. I can only see our first team matches and not being locally I can't see the reserve matches so have no idea how well or badly he did. It didn't appear he did well because he was moved from midfield to defense I think or so I thought I read, maybe I got it wrong, this was a few years ago.

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dec wrote:
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https://futaa.com/article/184521/arsenal-coach-banned-after-aggressive-behaviour-towards-referee

I coached my son's team for the last few years (he's 14). It's a big problem in the game. Some people behave ina totally inappropriate manner. Equally childish and aggressive. Very disappointing that it would be the case at Arsenal.

I did the same a few years ago. Saw some jaw dropping stuff, mainly with parents and occasionally with ‘coaches’. Never with the boys and girls though.

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Post #490288  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:09 pm 
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long time gooner wrote:
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I coached my son's team for the last few years (he's 14). It's a big problem in the game. Some people behave ina totally inappropriate manner. Equally childish and aggressive. Very disappointing that it would be the case at Arsenal.

I did the same a few years ago. Saw some jaw dropping stuff, mainly with parents and occasionally with ‘coaches’. Never with the boys and girls though.

My son doesn't play football anymore. Had a season at a youth club but didn't respond to the way the coaches were with the kids, made him lose all interest in playing it. He now plays rugby which he loves. The coaching is exemplary and the way they get spoken to is so encouraging, even if they do something wrong it's always spun in a positive way. He's not a natural sportsman by any stretch of the imagination, but he loves playing rugby. I think the coaches have a massive bearing on it.

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Post #490289  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:44 pm 
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Pablo Fornals signs for West Ham for £24m - very good signing for them.

It made me look in to their transfer history: approximates of net spend are:
19/20 +£24m spent so far
18/19 +£90m spent
17/18 - £13m spent
16/17 +£43m spent
15/16 +£34m spent
14/15 +£30m spent
13/14 +£24m spent
12/13 +£24m spent

averaging £32m per season. Arsenal have averaged a net spend of £35m per season in the same time-frame.

I know our wages are bigger but so is our prize money, tv money, match day money, sponsorship money etc etc.
How on earth are West Ham spending the same amount as us in transfers?


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Post #490290  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:54 pm 
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Darren wrote:
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I did the same a few years ago. Saw some jaw dropping stuff, mainly with parents and occasionally with ‘coaches’. Never with the boys and girls though.

My son doesn't play football anymore. Had a season at a youth club but didn't respond to the way the coaches were with the kids, made him lose all interest in playing it. He now plays rugby which he loves. The coaching is exemplary and the way they get spoken to is so encouraging, even if they do something wrong it's always spun in a positive way. He's not a natural sportsman by any stretch of the imagination, but he loves playing rugby. I think the coaches have a massive bearing on it.

I agree the coaches make all the difference. My son is still playing youth football and the coaches at his club are excellent, very encouraging and supportive of the boys, not tolerating unsportsmanlike behaviour, rotating so all the squad get game time etc.


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long time gooner wrote:
dec wrote:
I coached my son's team for the last few years (he's 14). It's a big problem in the game. Some people behave ina totally inappropriate manner. Equally childish and aggressive. Very disappointing that it would be the case at Arsenal.

I did the same a few years ago. Saw some jaw dropping stuff, mainly with parents and occasionally with ‘coaches’. Never with the boys and girls though.

It's primarily been a problem with coaches in my experience, although they are of course parents also. I made a point of never shouting criticism at a ref (although I once did the VAR sign for the laugh). Only last month I was at a game where one of the opposition coaches had to he physically restrained by his colleague. It's demented stuff.

I agree with Darren too about encouragement being key. I had to give up last year and the lads who took over from me are nice guys but their expectations of what the kids can do are ridiculous. The shout of "too easy" when opponents get through is all too frequent. I asked my son about that and he hates it. His comment was that it is meaningless because he doesn't know what they have done wrong.

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Post #490292  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:07 pm 
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DHD wrote:
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Hopefully not an unfinished work...



I trout that.

Quite a trio of comedians, aren't you?

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bromley gooner wrote:
Darren wrote:
My son doesn't play football anymore. Had a season at a youth club but didn't respond to the way the coaches were with the kids, made him lose all interest in playing it. He now plays rugby which he loves. The coaching is exemplary and the way they get spoken to is so encouraging, even if they do something wrong it's always spun in a positive way. He's not a natural sportsman by any stretch of the imagination, but he loves playing rugby. I think the coaches have a massive bearing on it.

I agree the coaches make all the difference. My son is still playing youth football and the coaches at his club are excellent, very encouraging and supportive of the boys, not tolerating unsportsmanlike behaviour, rotating so all the squad get game time etc.

Rotation is vital and sadly loads of coaches don't do it. In the long term lack of rotation weakens a squad big time because the kids that don't play fall behind through lack of practice.

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How good is Joe Root?

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I'm encouraged by the quality of signings and transfer targets. Young, dynamic. If any of them blossom into big stars, I expect them to leave. That's par for the course.

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I'm encouraged by the quality of signings and transfer targets. Young, dynamic. If any of them blossom into big stars, I expect them to leave. That's par for the course.

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Post #490297  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:53 pm 
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Linked with another young Brazilian, Reinier Jesus, 17, attacking mid/No.10. Hopefully Edu can work his magic.


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bromley gooner wrote:
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I'm encouraged by the quality of signings and transfer targets. Young, dynamic. If any of them blossom into big stars, I expect them to leave. That's par for the course.

What signings?

Was thinking the same thing Bromley. Have I or we missed something?


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Linked with another young Brazilian, Reinier Jesus, 17, attacking mid/No.10. Hopefully Edu can work his magic.

I worry about the adjustment from Brazil but he seems decent enough

and with Carrasco pretty much a formality, we are looking okay. I like that we are not leaving things late like in previous seasons.
and we are linked to Ryan Fraser as well

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[quote="AmericanGooner"]I like that we are not leaving things late like in previous seasons
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I am not encouraged by our signings to date, and predict none of them will play a game for us.

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Rich wrote:
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I like that we are not leaving things late like in previous seasons
We’ve signed nobody yet


I thought I saw a headline that said "Arsenal signing' and I just went back to find it and it wasn't a signing. Thanks for the correction.

That said, I love that we are closely linked and seem very close to having a player signed soon from reports. Fingers crossed.

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Post #490303  Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:53 am 
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The rapper Drake didn't jinx the Toronto Rapters from winning their first title and the first non American NBA championship. Tradition dicates the championship team visits the White House but I doubt 1. The Toronto team would want to go and 2. they would much rather visit their own PM, Trudeau. Assuming he invites them.

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Post #490304  Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:08 am 
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So, Real Madrid signed the "Japanese Messi", he looks a find, small but so is Messi.


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I have a bad feeling about the amount we can get for him and the possibility that the club that wants him Özil won't want to go to. This may not end well.

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Goonie wrote:
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Quite a trio of comedians, aren't you?


I had to google to get the jokes... tried listening, classical music still not my cup of tea.
Khatia and Gvantsa may help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UXlf_ZMb8E

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Rich wrote:
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I like that we are not leaving things late like in previous seasons
We’ve signed nobody yet

Parallel universe?

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old man of hoy wrote:
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I had to google to get the jokes... tried listening, classical music still not my cup of tea.
Khatia and Gvantsa may help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UXlf_ZMb8E


Nice cuppa!
But this is a more 'classical'
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For no other reason than it is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxCPeQPeKzU

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Seen a bit of paper talk saying Torreira is unsettled in England and Milan are trying to buy him......and whilst Arsenal don’t want to sell they would ask for £35m. That would be pathetic, we bought him for £25m, don’t want to sell him, he’s 23and he has a long term contract. That equals something closer to £60-70m asking price in my book.


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Rich wrote:
Seen a bit of paper talk saying Torreira is unsettled in England and Milan are trying to buy him......and whilst Arsenal don’t want to sell they would ask for £35m. That would be pathetic, we bought him for £25m, don’t want to sell him, he’s 23and he has a long term contract. That equals something closer to £60-70m asking price in my book.

£70m for Torreira?!!! Not a chance. Average player with some potential. Nothing more.

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Lampard as Chelsea skipper? Its their funeral. Hopefully.

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Lampard as Chelsea skipper? Its their funeral. Hopefully.

I didn't realise he'd come out of retirement. Luckily you're on here to keep us all informed.


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Lampard as Chelsea skipper? Its their funeral. Hopefully.

I didn't realise he'd come out of retirement. Luckily you're on here to keep us all informed.

Hi Brom. . I think there may be a language gap here. In the US of A “skipper” often refers to the coach or as we would say manager ....not to the captain of the team on the pitch.
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Seen a bit of paper talk saying Torreira is unsettled in England and Milan are trying to buy him......and whilst Arsenal don’t want to sell they would ask for £35m. That would be pathetic, we bought him for £25m, don’t want to sell him, he’s 23and he has a long term contract. That equals something closer to £60-70m asking price in my book.

£70m for Torreira?!!! Not a chance. Average player with some potential. Nothing more.


I guess no one will come in for him then. Also the question is what we could get for him not what he’s worth. Which I agree should be way more than the relatively small amounts being touted.

I might just wait to see if we get first half of the season or second half of the season Torreria. If it’s mainly first £35M is indeed laughable.


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I didn't realise he'd come out of retirement. Luckily you're on here to keep us all informed.

Hi Brom. . I think there may be a language gap here. In the US of A “skipper” often refers to the coach or as we would say manager ....not to the captain of the team on the pitch.
In other news Happy Fathers Day to you all.

Happy fathers day to you too Andy. And all the other Gleiber dads.


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For no other reason than it is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxCPeQPeKzU


and " for no other reason " I enjoyed this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_WxtBP4ePs

Shades of " Honky Tonk "....... didn't realise he could play .

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Andy Green wrote:
Hi Brom. . I think there may be a language gap here. In the US of A “skipper” often refers to the coach or as we would say manager ....not to the captain of the team on the pitch.
In other news Happy Fathers Day to you all.


I was in Philly in February. My how things have changed. You are 'spot on' as you Brits say. But I have a feeling our buddy knew that anyway and just being a...well...nevermind. :icon_mrgreen: I don't see the posts anyway.

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Seems we are linked to several players which is nice to read about. And still in June. Which bodes well for the summer. The players linked to us strongly seemed pretty good. Fingers crossed we wrap things up with them soon.

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Just read we are close to getting William Saliba. Never heard of him but he looks strong and at that young age, will only get stronger.


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