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Post #501921  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:23 am 
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Xhaka was unfairly booked in the Villa match. Unfortunately his reputation precedes him.

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Post #501922  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:25 am 
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Thing is Fernandinho is more subtle with his tactical fouling. Xhaka is absolutely cynical and obvious committing 2 foot lunges when he gives the ball away that’s why he has the problem.

Also if you don’t think the other 2 are reds I don’t know what to say. It’s one thing dragging a player to the ground and something quite different doing peoples ankles.

So you think the cyclical trip on Swansea’s Mo Barrow 60 yards from goal and by the touchline was deserving of a straight red? The type of red card that has never been repeated since in the premier league

Rich, having a few minutes to kill, I thought I'd check how the forum felt about Xhaka's red card against Swansea at the time. One or two interesting reactions...

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Post #501923  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:18 am 
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Bernard wrote:
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8 now.

Try adding up all of yours unless you want to be a hypocrite.

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So you think the cyclical trip on Swansea’s Mo Barrow 60 yards from goal and by the touchline was deserving of a straight red? The type of red card that has never been repeated since in the premier league

Rich, having a few minutes to kill, I thought I'd check how the forum felt about Xhaka's red card against Swansea at the time. One or two interesting reactions...

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=459480

Haha Thanks for that. Some of those frustrations are the same things we’re discussing now. Ex refs tying themselves in knots to agree with the onfield decision, precedents being set for arsenal players and never seen again…..I’m pleased that at least I stayed consistent in my view of the incident…. :1laughter:


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Post #501925  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:22 am 
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Vieira has been inducted in to the premier league hall of fame, 7th player in. Henry and Bergkamp already in there.

I think I would argue with anyone to say that Vieira is the greatest central midfielder in the premier league ever. I think people’s views get a bit skewed with the formation for 3 man midfields now where midfielders can decide if they don’t want to be good at attacking or defending, Vieira did it all in a 2 man midfield. He’s known as a tough tackling, physically dominant leader but that underplays the skill and touch he had, not to mention his cool finishing ability 1v1. Other fans will throw out names like Scholes, Keane, Gerrard, Lampard but Vieira bested them all in my opinion.


To use a phrase that often gets overused Viera would take games by the scruff of the neck at times. When he was in the mood he ruled the midfield imperiously.

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Post #501926  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:45 am 
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TOP GUN wrote:
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Try adding up all of yours unless you want to be a hypocrite.

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Can you honestly not see the hypocrisy of you saying this?


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Post #501927  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:50 am 
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Bernard wrote:
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9. Seek help

Can you honestly not see the hypocrisy of you saying this?

10. Seek help

Any responses to a post about granit where you lay out a dozen posts of accusations following it when this is your problem meets this course of action now.


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Post #501928  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:52 am 
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Rich wrote:
I’m pleased that at least I stayed consistent in my view of the incident…. :1laughter:

Unlike Too Gun who said this in post 459488.

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For gods sake it's not a red, it just isn't.

Teams are doing that foul againest us every week.


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Post #501929  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:52 am 
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Bernard wrote:
Rich wrote:
I’m pleased that at least I stayed consistent in my view of the incident…. :1laughter:

Unlike Too Gun who said this in post 459488.

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For gods sake it's not a red, it just isn't.

Teams are doing that foul againest us every week.


Haha who’s obsessive ?


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Can you honestly not see the hypocrisy of you saying this?

10. Seek help

Any responses to a post about granit where you lay out a dozen posts of accusations following it when this is your problem meets this course of action now.

No it isn’t. It is YOU who cannot stop moaning about Xhaka. You cannot let it rest about him.

As I said, he gave a talk at an AST do recently. I’ve heard he spoke very well. But that is what I’ve heard, not my view because I didn’t bother watching it. That can only show I’m not really interested in him or his views. I simply respond to your grossly over the top criticisms.


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Unlike Too Gun who said this in post 459488.



Haha who’s obsessive ?

Clearly you are.


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Bernard wrote:
Rich wrote:
I’m pleased that at least I stayed consistent in my view of the incident…. :1laughter:

Unlike Too Gun who said this in post 459488.

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For gods sake it's not a red, it just isn't.

Teams are doing that foul againest us every week.

Yes, Bernard, but that was before Top Gun became obsessed with Xhaka, back when he treated him just like every other Arsenal player. I remember those halcyon days.

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Bernard wrote:
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10. Seek help

Any responses to a post about granit where you lay out a dozen posts of accusations following it when this is your problem meets this course of action now.

No it isn’t. It is YOU who cannot stop moaning about Xhaka. You cannot let it rest about him.

As I said, he gave a talk at an AST do recently. I’ve heard he spoke very well. But that is what I’ve heard, not my view because I didn’t bother watching it. That can only show I’m not really interested in him or his views. I simply respond to your grossly over the top criticisms.

Thats up to 12 now. Seek help

All in response to a post suggesting the guy had created his own reputation. Few would disagree with this but still you continue


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Bernard wrote:
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8 now.

Try adding up all of yours unless you want to be a hypocrite.

Bernard, his own post of 7 March 2022 gave the best advice on any issue he even mentions: just ignore everything he says. I have found it an easy mantra to apply.

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Post #501935  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:41 am 
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Try adding up all of yours unless you want to be a hypocrite.

Bernard, his own post of 7 March 2022 gave the best advice on any issue he even mentions: just ignore everything he says. I have found it an easy mantra to apply.

Wahay I’ve been waiting for the forum imbecile to try and pile on.

.. but you still comment all the time :58big-emoticons:


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https://twitter.com/Mikega2020/status/1 ... 15r-H51LFQ

Wow, I sat open mouthed listening to this. How do these views even still exist in football?

This Mings tackle on Saka to me is clear what has happened. Mings knows he is going to get there first, he knows he can almost certainly stay on his feet and get there first and pass the ball and collide in to Saka afterwards with both of them on their feet, he chooses to use the excuse that he knows he's going to win the ball cleanly to take the cowards approach and make it a sliding tackle to ensure eh a) gives more protection to himself and b) makes sure he leaves something on Saka.
Nicol manages to say this is all Saka's fault that he got injured by this. Absolutely amazing. As for the other no mark in the video - just wow

Also, the acid test as always, ask yourself if Mings was about to collide with his own team mate would he has done so in the manner he did v Saka? Or would he have braced his body, belt his leg, lowered his studs to minimise the impact?


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Rich wrote:
https://twitter.com/Mikega2020/status/1506577422132690949?s=20&t=fNf5ccuGnLnz15r-H51LFQ

Wow, I sat open mouthed listening to this. How do these views even still exist in football?

Is he really talking about Saka when he says it doesn't take much for him to come off in a game?

'He's had quite a few knocks where he hasn't played the next game, for two or three weeks' - according to Saka's injury history on transfermarkt, he's missed a total of two games in three seasons due to injury. From my memory, I'm not sure I can think of a single game where Saka hasn't been available for selection.


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Post #501938  Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:14 am 
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Top Gun on Xhaka's red card against Swansea in 2016: 'For gods sake it's not a red, it just isn't.'

Hi TG, tell us again how you feel about that decision.

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Top Gun on Xhaka's red card against Swansea in 2016: 'For gods sake it's not a red, it just isn't.'

Hi TG, tell us again how you feel about that decision.

I already have. As I said to Rich yesterday I thought it was a debatable decision out of all the reds, I still think it is but still but my position on this has loosened several years down the line of watching the bloke accumulate more yellows than Putin has tanks. I’m more philosophical. You have a player who walks round the pitch properly doing other players if he loses the ball to avoid his limitations being exposed. If you go to Arsenal week in and week out you know this. The refs now know this. He’s gonna get reds and yellows, some time he will deserve them, others not. A bloke broke into the London zoo a few years back and stuck his head in a lions mouth and got mauled. Let’s all scream at the zookeeper eh.


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Son just scored a stunner for Korea in their WC qualifier against Iran. We need to watch out for his long range shots when we play Spurs.

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TOP GUN wrote:
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Top Gun on Xhaka's red card against Swansea in 2016: 'For gods sake it's not a red, it just isn't.'

Hi TG, tell us again how you feel about that decision.

I already have. As I said to Rich yesterday I thought it was a debatable decision out of all the reds

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Hazuki wrote:
Rich wrote:
https://twitter.com/Mikega2020/status/1506577422132690949?s=20&t=fNf5ccuGnLnz15r-H51LFQ

Wow, I sat open mouthed listening to this. How do these views even still exist in football?

Is he really talking about Saka when he says it doesn't take much for him to come off in a game?

'He's had quite a few knocks where he hasn't played the next game, for two or three weeks' - according to Saka's injury history on transfermarkt, he's missed a total of two games in three seasons due to injury. From my memory, I'm not sure I can think of a single game where Saka hasn't been available for selection.

it is a huge bugbear of mine when listening to pundits, they spout stuff without having done any research to back up what they're saying - and no one challenges them on it. Plenty of ill-educated and lazy football fans will just believe what they say and regurgitate it.
It is their job, they are being paid for their opinions but they just spout cliches and rarely add anything of interest, there are plenty of casual fans who sit behind a keyboard who would know far more about teams, players, tactics and stats.


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Mesut Özil has been 'excluded' from the Fenerbahce squad.....


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Rich wrote:
Mesut Özil has been 'excluded' from the Fenerbahce squad.....

‘Indefinitely’ apparently.

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Rich wrote:
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At least the illustrious Xhaka will wear the Swiss armband against England this Saturday.
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Maybe he can two-foot Kane, take the red and be back for the World Cup.

Well said Rich. :14laughter:

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Mesut Özil has been 'excluded' from the Fenerbahce squad.....

‘Indefinitely’ apparently.

You cant really blame the Fenerbahce people though for not knowing about Özil.

How could they have seen it coming ?


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‘Indefinitely’ apparently.

You cant really blame the Fenerbahce people though for not knowing about Özil.


How could they have seen it coming ?

:1laughter: :53big-emoticons: :1laughter:

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Quite a few rumours about us being in for Darwin Nunez from Benfica. I haven't seen him play but he has scored a lot of goals. A few reports I've read mark him as similar in style to Cavani - which may just be a convenient comparison because of the similar looks (flowing locks!) and that their both from Uruguay.


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Rich wrote:
Quite a few rumours about us being in for Darwin Nunez from Benfica. I haven't seen him play but he has scored a lot of goals. A few reports I've read mark him as similar in style to Cavani - which may just be a convenient comparison because of the similar looks (flowing locks!) and that their both from Uruguay.

WHU are also in for Nunez this summer. Cost is £67m.

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Saka has withdrawn from England camp due to Covid. He's self-isolating. Won't be playing Saturday then. His words.

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Saka has withdrawn from England camp due to Covid. He's self-isolating. Won't be playing Saturday then. His words.

Hopefully it’s a mild case, ideally non-symptomatic.

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Italy won’t be going to the World Cup in Qatar. Knocked out tonight by North Macedonia. Italy didn’t make the World Cup in Russia in 2018 either, but yet they are European Champions! The last World Cup knock out hand Italy won was when they beat France in the final in 2006


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Martinelli was given about 20 mins in the Brazil-Chile game. Good to see he was comfortable when in possession.

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Nice headed goal by Tierney last night. Rare to see him on the other end of a cross.

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Ben White comes across well here. Seems grounded.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ben- ... 5384519a31

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Have to say the wenger documentary on Amazon is pretty good.

Certainly better than his book.

The bit where he confronts the press on the Highbury steps. Just crazy. There’s some horrible elements to our society and certainly press.


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Saka has withdrawn from England camp due to Covid. He's self-isolating. Won't be playing Saturday then. His words.

Hopefully it’s a mild case, ideally non-symptomatic.

Think he'll be alright.

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Almost forgot.
Congratulations to Gabriel Magalhaes and his newborn baby girl. No doubt mother and baby are doing well.

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Cracking goal by Ødegaard tonight. Haven’t seen the Balogun one yet.

Edit. Seen the Balogun one now. Neat fox in the box effort.

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