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Post #471761  Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:10 pm 
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*%^@*** typical they get a penalty in the last *%^@*** minute after being toothless all half.
Can't stand this spurs team.
No way Burnley are scoring now.
We have to win tomorrow

I’m not watching it but why was eight minutes injury time added to the first half?


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Post #471762  Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:12 pm 
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I'm foolishly listening to it on the radio Bernard.
Don't know why I do it to myself.
I think Cornet had an injury.
I really hate spurs I really do.
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Bernard it was 4 added minutes. Then it took a while for the VAR b….cks


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Thanks David and Andy.


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Post #471765  Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:16 pm 
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Just ditch VAR

It’s total *%^@, the first decision is nearly always right anyway then the ref is swayed by something really minor that’s subjective but can’t not give the decision because the incident is slowed down and has to be viewed as something yes or no. It creates more injustice than it solves. Honestly does anyone think it benefits the game. If it has to be used then use it for offsides only.

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I quite like the idea of VAR for clear and obvious error. That should be a rarity.

Ultra marginal offsides, and the daft new handball laws that seem to change each season are an abomination.

As is the nonsense where there is clear offside but the assistant referee keeps his flag down.

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I quite like the idea of VAR for clear and obvious error. That should be a rarity.

Ultra marginal offsides, and the daft new handball laws that seem to change each season are an abomination.

As is the nonsense where there is clear offside but the assistant referee keeps his flag down.

Might an answer be to not show VAR replays in slow motion, and only once? Then if a referee has made an obvious error, wouldn’t it become clear if shown at normal speed without the need to look at it time and time again?


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Bernard wrote:
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I quite like the idea of VAR for clear and obvious error. That should be a rarity.

Ultra marginal offsides, and the daft new handball laws that seem to change each season are an abomination.

As is the nonsense where there is clear offside but the assistant referee keeps his flag down.

Might an answer be to not show VAR replays in slow motion, and only once? Then if a referee has made an obvious error, wouldn’t it become clear if shown at normal speed without the need to look at it time and time again?

That makes a lot of sense.

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Once again we see decision for other key rivals that we just don’t get. That handball today, compare that to the handball we weren’t given vs Brentford when the guys arm was above his head as he blocked a shot. Or that one Pépé should have had v Burnley last season when the Burnley player basically slapped the ball away.

2 soft penalties in 2 must win games. Things to not even out over a season we have no doubt had the rough end of things. Some vital undeniable decisions. That red card v palace when he swiped Saka was so clear. I don’t think we draw that game is the red is given.


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With Holding definitely suspended, if Gabriel and White are unavailable for selection tomorrow (or even one of them), does the decision to send Mari out on loan look a little hasty?


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john1 wrote:
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Still hoping Liverpool pips City to the title. Putting distance between them and Man Utd for most titles and a stronger possiblity of a quadruple and reducing the significance of the '99 treble, albeit it, it will always remian an incredible accomplishment. Just not as incredible. :7laughter:


He's got absolutely no idea has he?

None whatsoever.


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Bernard wrote:
With Holding definitely suspended, if Gabriel and White are unavailable for selection tomorrow (or even one of them), does the decision to send Mari out on loan look a little hasty?

White I expect to play under the circumstances given that he was on the bench for Tottenham.
Not sure if Gabriel is definitely out or if they can patch him up.
If not, perhaps Tomiyasu moves to centre back and then Cédric should play rb and either Nuno or Xhaka left back. Despite some shaky performances I'd prefer Nuno, as we need Xhaka in the midfield.


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Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 0 Burnley




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Quite amazing. Man City have just gone two down.

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bromley gooner wrote:
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He's got absolutely no idea has he?

None whatsoever.

City 2-0 down. They're not going to choke again surely!

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bromley gooner wrote:
Bernard wrote:
With Holding definitely suspended, if Gabriel and White are unavailable for selection tomorrow (or even one of them), does the decision to send Mari out on loan look a little hasty?

White I expect to play under the circumstances given that he was on the bench for Tottenham.
Not sure if Gabriel is definitely out or if they can patch him up.
If not, perhaps Tomiyasu moves to centre back and then Cédric should play rb and either Nuno or Xhaka left back. Despite some shaky performances I'd prefer Nuno, as we need Xhaka in the midfield.

If we do somehow get fourth, we will really have gotten away with it. The cat with nine lives.

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He's got absolutely no idea has he?

None whatsoever.

Bloody West Ham are winning 2-0. If Liverpool win the quadruple we’d literally never hear the sodding end of it. You’re both right. He has absolutely no idea if he wants them to win all four. None whatsoever. A vile club supported by truly obnoxious fans.


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Bernard wrote:
With Holding definitely suspended, if Gabriel and White are unavailable for selection tomorrow (or even one of them), does the decision to send Mari out on loan look a little hasty?

I would say that selling Chambers was a more influential decision as he can cover right back and even defensive midfield.

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Bernard wrote:
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None whatsoever.

Bloody West Ham are winning 2-0. If Liverpool win the quadruple we’d literally never hear the sodding end of it. You’re both right. He has absolutely no idea if he wants them to win all four. None whatsoever. Their fan base are truly obnoxious.

Grealish has got one back for City.

And now it's 2-2.


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With Holding definitely suspended, if Gabriel and White are unavailable for selection tomorrow (or even one of them), does the decision to send Mari out on loan look a little hasty?

I would say that selling Chambers was a more influential decision as he can cover right back and even defensive midfield.

Yeah. The only reason I didn’t mention Chambers was that he was sold on a permanent transfer whereas Mari was sent on loan.


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Brilliant. City have equalised. Hopefully time for them to get a winner.


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In the gutting event that we don't make top 4 I will be extremely disappointed and *%^@** off that we have let those *%^@ in.
I hate kane son and conte. With an absolute passion.
More and more as the season has wore on.
Champions league is huge in terms of the finances, the type of player we can attract and the prestige of the competition.
Having said that I don't think The europa league is the end of the world.
Yes I know we don't like the Thursday Sunday sequence but I'm just delighted we will be getting European football back and being totally realistic we will be in the champions league to make up the numbers whereas we can genuinely win the europa league. Also if the league isn't going right then it's another pathway to qualify for the champions league.
I'll happily take europa if we unfortunately miss out on 4th.


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Brilliant. City have equalised. Hopefully time for them to get a winner.

Time for Fabianski to stop them winning as it turned out. :laughing7:

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In the gutting event that we don't make top 4 I will be extremely disappointed and *%^@** off that we have let those *%^@ in.
I hate kane son and conte. With an absolute passion.
More and more as the season has wore on.
Champions league is huge in terms of the finances, the type of player we can attract and the prestige of the competition.
Having said that I don't think The europa league is the end of the world.
Yes I know we don't like the Thursday Sunday sequence but I'm just delighted we will be getting European football back and being totally realistic we will be in the champions league to make up the numbers whereas we can genuinely win the europa league. Also if the league isn't going right then it's another pathway to qualify for the champions league.
I'll happily take europa if we unfortunately miss out on 4th.

I think getting into the Champions League is massively important because of, as you say, the money it will bring in and the quality of players we can attract.

I realise it would take a miracle to win the Champions League and we’d have a realistic chance of winning the Europa League. But I suspect that’s going to be less of an issue because we’d quite possibly end up in the Europa League from finishing third in the group stage anyway. That, along with the extra money and better recruitment opportunities the Champions League would bring, makes getting into it crucial.


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In the gutting event that we don't make top 4 I will be extremely disappointed and *%^@** off that we have let those *%^@ in.
I hate kane son and conte. With an absolute passion.
More and more as the season has wore on.
Champions league is huge in terms of the finances, the type of player we can attract and the prestige of the competition.
Having said that I don't think The europa league is the end of the world.
Yes I know we don't like the Thursday Sunday sequence but I'm just delighted we will be getting European football back and being totally realistic we will be in the champions league to make up the numbers whereas we can genuinely win the europa league. Also if the league isn't going right then it's another pathway to qualify for the champions league.
I'll happily take europa if we unfortunately miss out on 4th.

Irrespective of where each club finishes if you look at the two teams it’s clear which position I’d prefer to be in.
Spurs best 3 players are Kane, son, Lloris, each are approaching or over 30. I think Kane will still want a move, he wants to win things and he surely knows he’s not doing that at spurs. They won’t get £150m for him and their values are depreciating all the time.
Their manager only has 12 months left on his deal and has hinted at any opportunity this season he’s ready to chuck it in and look for something better - make no mistake, he took the spurs job to get back in to football and put himself in the shop window.
Spurs also are already £75m down in the summer if they make Romero and Kulesevski deals permanent, so that’s £75m to stand still.
They also have this huge debt on t stadium that needs servicing and still haven’t found a sponsor for it.
Then look at us, main squad is under 23, we’ve got to 4/5th without a serious striker and with a wafer thin squad - the easy betterment of our squad is clear to see.
Also we have a manager committed to dominant attacking football whereas spurs have a manager who plays negative football relying on the other team having the ball and two strikers who bail them out with stupendous finishing. We had two of our crucial parts of our team missing injured, if Kane and Son get injured or leave Spurs are a bottom half team.
Conte will demand huge money in the summer and might just be backed by Levy but I’m not convinced that team can be much better next season. I do think they will struggle to replicate some of their results.
And for all the talk of us not having European football this year neither really did spurs, they played 5 conference league games without their main or best players and that’s it


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Bernard wrote:
david.d wrote:
In the gutting event that we don't make top 4 I will be extremely disappointed and *%^@** off that we have let those *%^@ in.
I hate kane son and conte. With an absolute passion.
More and more as the season has wore on.
Champions league is huge in terms of the finances, the type of player we can attract and the prestige of the competition.
Having said that I don't think The europa league is the end of the world.
Yes I know we don't like the Thursday Sunday sequence but I'm just delighted we will be getting European football back and being totally realistic we will be in the champions league to make up the numbers whereas we can genuinely win the europa league. Also if the league isn't going right then it's another pathway to qualify for the champions league.
I'll happily take europa if we unfortunately miss out on 4th.

I think getting into the Champions League is massively important because of, as you say, the money it will bring in and the quality of players we can attract.

I realise it would take a miracle to win the Champions League and we’d have a realistic chance of winning the Europa League. But I suspect that’s going to be less of an issue because we’d quite possibly end up in the Europa League from finishing third in the group stage anyway. That, along with the extra money and better recruitment opportunities the Champions League would bring, makes getting into it crucial.

Getting Cl and finishing 3rd in the group would actually be a good deal in many ways.


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Our season has been derailed by injuries and cheating.

There is no justice in this world, it’s a mean and nasty place.

Might have to go full Darren tomorrow night or do something more cheerful like renting schindlers list on box office or something

The world is poison, opt out of everything. There’s no future


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Rich wrote:
Bernard wrote:
I think getting into the Champions League is massively important because of, as you say, the money it will bring in and the quality of players we can attract.

I realise it would take a miracle to win the Champions League and we’d have a realistic chance of winning the Europa League. But I suspect that’s going to be less of an issue because we’d quite possibly end up in the Europa League from finishing third in the group stage anyway. That, along with the extra money and better recruitment opportunities the Champions League would bring, makes getting into it crucial.

Getting Cl and finishing 3rd in the group would actually be a good deal in many ways.

Exactly. Extra Champions League money for getting into it, being able to recruit better players this summer by being in it, and then subsequently having a realistic chance of winning the Europa League. Arguably it could even be approaching the ideal scenario.


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Our season has been derailed by injuries and cheating.

There is no justice in this world, it’s a mean and nasty place.

Might have to go full Darren tomorrow night or do something more cheerful like renting schindlers list on box office or something

The world is poison, opt out of everything. There’s no future

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You are supposed to teach your kids values. Be polite, treat people as you would yourself, don’t cheat, be honest, be kind, behave with integrity.

Why though ? I’ll tell you why

SO WHEN THEY INEVITABLY GET SCREWED OVER LIKE THE REST OF US DO THEY WILL KNOW IT!

Resist this nonsense. None of this anymore. Those values get you nowhere that’s the truth


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Just give in. Let’s make a pact for next season and go full VAR

Happily married nah let’s start hammering the Highbury Thai massage parlour after home games. Appreciating the football? no way we should go full hunter s Thompson for home games and drink and take drugs to excess. Screw your tax return, vote ukip, start retweeting Nigel farage, buy the express. Start listening to Phil Collins then at dinner parties tell the bored guests how incredible he is for 45 minutes. Nothing matters anymore. It’s *%^@*** over


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Looks like Everton are still going to be fighting relegation when they come to us.

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Just give in. Let’s make a pact for next season and go full VAR

Happily married nah let’s start hammering the Highbury Thai massage parlour after home games. Appreciating the football? no way we should go full hunter s Thompson for home games and drink and take drugs to excess. Screw your tax return, vote ukip, start retweeting Nigel farage, buy the express. Start listening to Phil Collins then at dinner parties tell the bored guests how incredible he is for 45 minutes. Nothing matters anymore. It’s *%^@*** over

Has your medication stopped working? :icon_mrgreen:

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Wow. Second red for Everton. Perhaps they won’t have any players left to field against us. :14laughter:

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long time gooner wrote:
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Just give in. Let’s make a pact for next season and go full VAR

Happily married nah let’s start hammering the Highbury Thai massage parlour after home games. Appreciating the football? no way we should go full hunter s Thompson for home games and drink and take drugs to excess. Screw your tax return, vote ukip, start retweeting Nigel farage, buy the express. Start listening to Phil Collins then at dinner parties tell the bored guests how incredible he is for 45 minutes. Nothing matters anymore. It’s *%^@*** over

Has your medication stopped working? :icon_mrgreen:

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That Everton side has been a complete disgrace this season they deserve to be relegated. Burnley would have been a point off them or better. Honestly I hope we batter them regardless and they go down


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Saliba has won the young player of the year award in France.
Previous winners were the £60m+ rated Tchoumeni and the 3 years before that were won by Mbappe. He’s in good company


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That Everton side has been a complete disgrace this season they deserve to be relegated. Burnley would have been a point off them or better. Honestly I hope we batter them regardless and they go down

Awful that we lost to them. That was one of our worst performances of the season, and you can pick two awful ref decisions not to give straight refs for 2 tackles and then Nketiah hit the post with a sitter to win it just before they WD g and won it, even with the last kick Aubameyang had a more than decent chance to snatch a draw


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Saliba has won the young player of the year award in France.
Previous winners were the £60m+ rated Tchoumeni and the 3 years before that were won by Mbappe. He’s in good company


Hopefully this will help us get a better fee so we can sell him.


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long time gooner wrote:
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Might an answer be to not show VAR replays in slow motion, and only once? Then if a referee has made an obvious error, wouldn’t it become clear if shown at normal speed without the need to look at it time and time again?

That makes a lot of sense.

Majority of PL refs wear microphones, if not mistaken. So wouldn't it behoove them after a VAR review to announce over a the PA system in the stadium, what the final decision of play is? Be it a goal kick, penalty, a corner, a sending off, etc. That way obviously the frustration, time consuming ordeal of what the final decision is, is reduced. Well one would hope anyway.

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