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Post #471561  Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:33 pm 
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Hoping for dropped points. 'Everton might be a tough nut to crack' :sign19:

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Yeah just ignore everything I say :14laughter: :14laughter:

Your best post ever and great advice.

Rolled into the net with style. :laughing7: :laughing7: Have a couple of :happy11: :happy11:

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It’s called a joke. Well at least there’s a bit of humility there


I did like that post of yours, TG, self-deprecating as it was. However, the complicated question of whether attributing humility to yourself - as you've done - is actually a bit arrogant is a philosophical conundrum. It's worthy of Socrates himself, if only he was still with us.

Nothing wrong with a bit of self deprecation every once in a while. I’m not sure why sending yourself up would be considered arrogant but there you go you can’t please everyone


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Interesting as no problem with small print in posts on my phone vertically.

Yeah - It only affects certain browsers like Firefox. I believe Chromium based browsers are ok.

Cheers Rog. Not using Firefox on my phone, just laptop on occasion. No small print using Firefox on SG on laptop either.

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Hope Everton step up tomorrow

Yes it will be helpful in just less than 3-1/2 hours from now tonight.

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Hello Bernard....not sure I fully agree with your Xhaka ranking....I'm not a regular Xhaka basher despite some of his occasional brain farts. But yesterday I was concerned about our left side.
I'm not sure if he was at fault for their first but there seems some confusion. Martinelli is marking the Watford player with the ball and then when the guy releases it he chases after the overlapper but cannot stop the cross and bang they're level...shouldn't Xhaka have been marking the guy with the ball and Martinelli the runner....like I say it may not have been his fault but there was a breakdown just like in the second half when they missed a sitter that started on our left with a ball inside our defender and a right wing cross that Dennis(I think) should've scored comfortably.

Their second goal was a result of him giving the ball away.....I cannot see why he thought a long diagonal ball was a good idea at that moment.....gave us a very nervous last 5....not saying Xhaka played bad but I would dock him a point or two
There's a good player in their somewhere and he has played some good games for us but (top 4 permitting) his position is one I would upgrade for next season.

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Hello Bernard....not sure I fully agree with your Xhaka ranking....I'm not a regular Xhaka basher despite some of his occasional brain farts. But yesterday I was concerned about our left side.
I'm not sure if he was at fault for their first but there seems some confusion. Martinelli is marking the Watford player with the ball and then when the guy releases it he chases after the overlapper but cannot stop the cross and bang they're level...shouldn't Xhaka have been marking the guy with the ball and Martinelli the runner....like I say it may not have been his fault but there was a breakdown just like in the second half when they missed a sitter that started on our left with a ball inside our defender and a right wing cross that Dennis(I think) should've scored comfortably.

Their second goal was a result of him giving the ball away.....I cannot see why he thought a long diagonal ball was a good idea at that moment.....gave us a very nervous last 5....not saying Xhaka played bad but I would dock him a point or two
There's a good player in their somewhere and he has played some good games for us but (top 4 permitting) his position is one I would upgrade for next season.
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It wasn’t my ranking but I think he was well worth the 7 whoever’s ranking it was gave him. He had a good game. Rich is right and he seems to be playing further forward now. So I can only assume that’s Arteta’s direction. It would be ideal to improve any player who isn’t the best in the world in his position. But a new striker or two is a way bigger priority than a replacement for Xhaka this summer.


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Bernard wrote:
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Hello Bernard....not sure I fully agree with your Xhaka ranking....I'm not a regular Xhaka basher despite some of his occasional brain farts. But yesterday I was concerned about our left side.
I'm not sure if he was at fault for their first but there seems some confusion. Martinelli is marking the Watford player with the ball and then when the guy releases it he chases after the overlapper but cannot stop the cross and bang they're level...shouldn't Xhaka have been marking the guy with the ball and Martinelli the runner....like I say it may not have been his fault but there was a breakdown just like in the second half when they missed a sitter that started on our left with a ball inside our defender and a right wing cross that Dennis(I think) should've scored comfortably.

Their second goal was a result of him giving the ball away.....I cannot see why he thought a long diagonal ball was a good idea at that moment.....gave us a very nervous last 5....not saying Xhaka played bad but I would dock him a point or two
There's a good player in their somewhere and he has played some good games for us but (top 4 permitting) his position is one I would upgrade for next season.
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It wasn’t my ranking but I think he was well worth the 7 whoever’s ranking it was gave him. He had a good game. Rich is right and he seems to be playing further forward now. So I can only assume that’s Arteta’s direction. It would be ideal to improve any player who isn’t the best in the world in his position. But a new striker or two is a way bigger priority than a replacement for Xhaka this summer.


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Post #471569  Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:50 pm 
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I think the math checks out in my previous post. I started doing the calculations quite early in the morning though, so I can't guarantee anything.

We've been going along at the excellent rate of 2.181818 points per game since our first three games. That rate would get us 76 points. Anything less than 70 would be a bit disappointing.

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Post #471570  Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:10 pm 
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Xhaka had a shocker ! Reckless passing and not bothering to track back. :laughing7: Honestly what are you on.

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Post #471571  Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:06 pm 
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Looking at the table, I'm wondering if 70 points won't be enough to get fourth place.

If we draw against Man Utd, they lose against Chelsea and Liverpool and win the other 7 games they have left they end up with 69 points. I don't think that's a far fetched prediction, in fact it possibly flatters them a bit considering their patchy form (their last 10 league games are 4 wins, 4 draws and 2 losses).

I think Tottenham will need 9 wins out of their last 13 games to get 70 points. They could do it with 8 wins and 4 draws, but that means they can only afford to lose one more game and they have both Man Utd and Liverpool away remaining, plus the home game against us. Either way would be quite a tall order for a team that has lost 6 of their last 10.

West Ham, like Man Utd have ten games left, but are only at 45 points. To get 70 they need 8 wins and one draw. Included in those ten games are Arsenal and Man City at home, and Tottenham and Chelsea away. They can only afford to drop points in two of those to get 70 points. In their last 10 they have 5 wins, 2 draws and 3 losses.

Wolves are out of it. 11 games to go and thirty points to get to 70, and they still have to play Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool. Not happening.

So, if we set 70 points as a benchmark, Arsenal need to find 7 wins and 1 draw in our remaining 13 games. That means we can actually afford another five losses and can still reach it. Say we lose against all the other big teams, Man Utd, Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool. That still leaves us another loss, and a draw, and we could still do it. In our last 10 games we have 8 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss.

All of this is very speculative of course - teams can find and lose form, important players could get injured etc etc. But from a pure points perspective, you'd have to be extremely pessimistic about Arsenal to not consider us the front runners for 4th place right now.

Pretty much my reading of it as well.
We're the only ones in the top 4 race with any kind of form right now, and our form is very very good (title winning form over the last 10).
Or we look at it the other way and say we're clearly the least flakey of the team there. I know we've conceded a couple of sloppy goals recently but the rest are doing that week in week out.


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https://twitter.com/PremLeaguePanel/sta ... 16739?s=20
I like little bits of analysis like this. I think Rodri and Fabinho are the best holding mids in the prem, and I base that on their ability to be positionally excellent, great with the ball in tight spaces snuffing out attacks and passing lines - but I hadn't considered what they give directly to the attack other than quick ball progression. These lofted passes from 40 yards out with a deep block are not really in our weaponry right now.


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Post #471573  Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:16 pm 
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So much for Everton doing us a favour......


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Everton actually started ok.
Game over.
Really want us to shrug these *%^@ers off our coat tails.
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So much for hoping Everton can do us a favour tonight. A calamitous own goal and a Pickford howler has Spurs 2-0 up early on.


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It is Man U v Spurs on saturday, logic would say a draw is the best result but if not then I think I'd prefer a Man U victory. I think Spurs will likely be our main challengers for 4th place come the end of the season.

It seems every week there is some sort of pivotal game. If Man U and Spurs draw and we can beat Leicester on the same weekend then the Liverpool home game in midweek has a sense of a free hit game


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Useless scousers that’s just pathetic


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I'm not sure our goal difference over spurs is worth the 'extra point' yet. Currently we are +6 goal difference on them with their second half v Everton to go. For goal difference to even come in to play Spurs need to beat us and then we lose another game. A couple of 2-0 defeats in those two games and the goal difference would be level.


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Spurs 5 now...that Goal Difference is disappearing pretty quickly.


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Xhaka had a shocker ! Reckless passing and not bothering to track back. :laughing7: Honestly what are you on.

No more than a 5

You’re the very last person I’d look to for a fair assessment of Xhaka, so it’s almost comforting to see this.


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Spurs 5 now...that Goal Difference is disappearing pretty quickly.

With around half an hour left, Tottenham could even have a better goal difference by the end of the game.


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Bernard wrote:
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Xhaka had a shocker ! Reckless passing and not bothering to track back. :laughing7: Honestly what are you on.

No more than a 5

You’re the very last person I’d look to for a fair assessment of Xhaka, so it’s almost comforting to see this.

You’re hardly rational about him yourself. You don’t have to look far to find people who thought he was pony yesterday


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You’re the very last person I’d look to for a fair assessment of Xhaka, so it’s almost comforting to see this.

You’re hardly rational about him yourself. You don’t have to look far to find people who thought he was pony yesterday

He divides opinion. Plenty of people think he played well. I don’t actually like or dislike him. I try to make my views dependent on how he actually played. I strongly suspect you allow your opinions to be driven by personal dislike. You presumably enjoy moaning about him.


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You’re hardly rational about him yourself. You don’t have to look far to find people who thought he was pony yesterday

He divides opinion. Plenty of people think he played well. I don’t actually like or dislike him. I try to make my views dependent on how he actually played. I strongly suspect you allow your opinions to be driven by personal dislike. You presumably enjoy moaning about him.

Nope. When he doesn’t put a foot wrong I give him credit.

It’s a rare occasion. He doesn’t bring much quality


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He divides opinion. Plenty of people think he played well. I don’t actually like or dislike him. I try to make my views dependent on how he actually played. I strongly suspect you allow your opinions to be driven by personal dislike. You presumably enjoy moaning about him.

Nope. When he doesn’t put a foot wrong I give him credit.

It’s a rare occasion. He doesn’t bring much quality

Do you give him credit when “he doesn’t put a foot wrong”? I must have missed it. Perhaps you should think about what expectations are reasonable? If not putting a foot wrong are yours, how often has any player achieved that? Perhaps the likes of Beckenbauer, Maradona and Zidane occasionally did? Perhaps?

But it doesn’t seem a reasonable expectation for nearly all players. Ødegaard and Saka had blinders yesterday. Neither had a perfect game.


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Bernard wrote:
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Nope. When he doesn’t put a foot wrong I give him credit.

It’s a rare occasion. He doesn’t bring much quality

Do you give him credit when “he doesn’t put a foot wrong”? I must have missed it. Perhaps you should think about what expectations are reasonable? If not putting a foot wrong are yours, how often has any player achieved that? Perhaps the likes of Beckenbauer, Maradona and Zidane occasionally did? Perhaps?

But it doesn’t seem a reasonable expectation for nearly all players. Ødegaard and Saka had blinders yesterday. Neither had a perfect game.


Many players have games where they don’t make mistakes xhaka less so. I’m sure I gave him credit after the spurs game this year. Anyways enough about the guy you always want to talk about him.


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Many players have games where they don’t make mistakes xhaka less so. I’m sure I gave him credit after the spurs game this year. Anyways enough about the guy you always want to talk about him.

I think it’s so rare for players to not make mistakes it barely ever happens. As I said, Saka and Ødegaard both had blinders yesterday. I didn’t think either was perfect. I was tempted to mention Xhaka’s Tottenham game. I don’t remember you praising him. What I think happened is you didn’t mention him. For me that isn’t praise. It’s simply realising to moan would look idiotic.

The primary reason I discuss him so much is reacting to your unfair and over the top criticisms. I don’t think he’s that interesting as a player or person really. Apparently Xhaka spoke very well at some AST do recently but I couldn’t comment on it, like I did with the AST Mertesacker talk, because I didn’t bother watching it. Surely that shows I don’t always want to talk about him.


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When we rate players for individual performances in games defensive players are always treated or viewed more harshly than forward players I think.
Take the Man City game, we probably look at the silly penalty conceded by Xhaka and the silly second booking by Gabriel and can rightly point to both contributing massively to us losing that game, but what about the open goal miss by Martinelli at 1-1, that’s just as important but we focus more on defensive mistakes.

I can’t think of an Arsenal example but say you win a game 3-1, you’re 3 forwards score one each but miss countless other chances and in the last minute a defender lunges in and gives away a penalty having had an otherwise faultless game. People will likely put more of a black mark against the defender than the strikers.


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Kane overtook Henry in the all time prem scoring lousy last night as he moved to 176 prem goals (Henry got his at a better goals/games ratio), Shearer is on 260 prem goals so Kane needs another 85 to go ahead. In the last 4 seasons before this Kane is averaging 20 goals a season, it may be unlikely for him to keep that rate up in to his 30’s so I would say Kane needs the rest of this season and a further 5 seasons at 17+ goals to overtake Shearer. At the start of that 5th season Kane will be 33. I think it is a record that massively motivated Kane, the guy went on rb to swear on his daughters life that he touched the ball so he could take a goal off his team mate, I think he will do it but it will depend on injuries.


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Everton we’re woeful last night but they played directly in to Spurs strength. Everton tried to press high (and didn’t do it well) and played a high defensive line with a set of defenders who have very little pace or athleticism. Absolute tactical suicide. Arteta needs to be very careful how we set up against them. Thankfully we have much quicker and better 1v1 defenders.
Spurs have Man U away next and I think the arrogance of Man U at home will lead them to try to attack and adopt a unstructured high press and Spurs will hit on the counter at tear slow Maguire apart. If I was Man U I’d play deeper, keep the full backs compact and have Fred and McTominey sitting in front, then use the individual skill and pace of Bruno, Sancho, elanga, rashford on their own counter attack


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I'm sure Southgate will stick with Pickford as in truth he hasn't ever really let England down but for me Ramsdale is the better GK despite not being up to the standards he set earlier in the season. Saka should be an absolute shoe in for one of the attacking positions in the England team despite the wealth of talent England has in those positions. I also think there should be a serious discussion about Ben White not just being in the squad but in the starting 11 - particularly if Southgate goes with his bnack 3 formation. What English CB is playing better than Ben White right now? Stones? Maguire? Coady? Mings? not sure which others have been in recent squads.


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Spurs two best players are clearly Son and Kane. I think their next two best are Kulusevski and Romero, both are technically on loan, Spurs paid £10m for the Kulusevski loan - and will have to pay a combined £75m to sign both permanently. I always think that is an interesting part to loan deals, because when you make them permanent you're spending a lot of money to not actually improve your squad - you just maintain it. Conte will pressure Levy for a big transfer outlay in the summer - if he even stays that long - I just can't see it happening for them.


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Rich wrote:
I'm sure Southgate will stick with Pickford as in truth he hasn't ever really let England down but for me Ramsdale is the better GK despite not being up to the standards he set earlier in the season. .


See this is the stuff that makes me laugh. Someone says something, it’s gets repeated and repeated and accepted as standard. How has Ramsdale gone off the boil ? A misplaced goal kick on Sunday. The 2nd goal? What white losing it on the edge of his 6 yard box. How’s that his fault.

We’ve taken 25 points from our last 30. He can’t be doing that badly.


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Rich wrote:
Kane overtook Henry in the all time prem scoring lousy last night as he moved to 176 prem goals (Henry got his at a better goals/games ratio), Shearer is on 260 prem goals so Kane needs another 85 to go ahead. In the last 4 seasons before this Kane is averaging 20 goals a season, it may be unlikely for him to keep that rate up in to his 30’s so I would say Kane needs the rest of this season and a further 5 seasons at 17+ goals to overtake Shearer. At the start of that 5th season Kane will be 33. I think it is a record that massively motivated Kane, the guy went on rb to swear on his daughters life that he touched the ball so he could take a goal off his team mate, I think he will do it but it will depend on injuries.

If Kane does eventually overtake Shearer in the Premier League scoring chart, I won’t actually begrudge his record even if he does it at Tottenham. Indeed, if it is at Tottenham I’ll give him even more credit for it.

To date every Premier League goal Kane has scored was for Tottenham. He played a few games for Norwich on loan in the Premier League but didn’t score for them. He got a few goals for Orient, Millwall and Leicester while on loan to them, but none were in the Premier League.

Shearer scored for both Southampton and Blackburn as well as Newcastle in the Premier League. If Kane stays at Tottenham and breaks Shearer’s record with them, as I say I’ll give him credit for that. Even though it’s Tottenham. A magnificent player in my view.

EDIT: To be technically correct, when Shearer played for Southampton it was before the top tier of English club football was known as the Premier League. It was Division One in Shearer’s Southampton days.


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I'm sure Southgate will stick with Pickford as in truth he hasn't ever really let England down but for me Ramsdale is the better GK despite not being up to the standards he set earlier in the season. .


See this is the stuff that makes me laugh. Someone says something, it’s gets repeated and repeated and accepted as standard. How has Ramsdale gone off the boil ? A misplaced goal kick on Sunday. The 2nd goal? What white losing it on the edge of his 6 yard box. How’s that his fault.

We’ve taken 25 points from our last 30. He can’t be doing that badly.

Ramsdale is still doing very well for us but in my opinion, and others on the forum, he’s not quite hitting the heights of earlier in the season.
And yes I do think he was partly at fault for the second goal, not the primary fault because the ball should never have got there but it should have been harder for sissoko to score than he made it for him. I’m talking about Ramsdale performing at 8/10 now compared to 9/10 earlier in the season, I’m clearly not saying he’s a poor player. But equally we can’t just judge every player as playing fantastic just because we’re winning games. Individual performances can be analysed within the team winning.


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Rich wrote:
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See this is the stuff that makes me laugh. Someone says something, it’s gets repeated and repeated and accepted as standard. How has Ramsdale gone off the boil ? A misplaced goal kick on Sunday. The 2nd goal? What white losing it on the edge of his 6 yard box. How’s that his fault.

We’ve taken 25 points from our last 30. He can’t be doing that badly.

Ramsdale is still doing very well for us but in my opinion, and others on the forum, he’s not quite hitting the heights of earlier in the season.
And yes I do think he was partly at fault for the second goal, not the primary fault because the ball should never have got there but it should have been harder for sissoko to score than he made it for him. I’m talking about Ramsdale performing at 8/10 now compared to 9/10 earlier in the season, I’m clearly not saying he’s a poor player. But equally we can’t just judge every player as playing fantastic just because we’re winning games. Individual performances can be analysed within the team winning.

Blaming him for either goal Sunday is incredibly incredibly harsh. Micro analysis at its finest

We haven’t had a David De Gea moment from him yet at all. It might be a thing about the way people view goalkeepers these days that I don’t understand because when Linekers shot brushed through seaman’s hands in that semi it was an obvious mistake but forgivable yet these days Leno seemed unjustly criticised frequently and now Ramsdale


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Blaming him for either goal Sunday is incredibly incredibly harsh. Micro analysis at its finest...
You are spot on about micro analysis. It is a product of multiple TV replays from various angles. It inevitably finds a guilty party to explain away any incident or goal. I prefer the old saying that the ball is round and can run anywhere, meaning the game will always hold surprises. Arguably the frailty shown by individual players is as important for entertainment as their strengths.

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Blaming him for either goal Sunday is incredibly incredibly harsh. Micro analysis at its finest...
You are spot on about micro analysis. It is a product of multiple TV replays from various angles. It inevitably finds a guilty party to explain away any incident or goal. I prefer the old saying that the ball is round and can run anywhere, meaning the game will always hold surprises. Arguably the frailty shown by individual players is as important for entertainment as their strengths.

Absolutely

Every once in a while you just need to shrug your shoulders and say that didn’t run for us. You could lambast Ben white for letting sissoko in but he’s been a very good player for us this season and seemed to make an honest mistake of getting his legs in a mix so he kind of tumbled forward ahead of the ball.

2 players who have served us very well this season.

I don’t think Ramsdale or any keeper would survive making a mistake like David Seaman did in the semi v spurs that time or in Paris v Zaragoza. Benefit of the doubt doesn’t exist anymore


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TOP GUN wrote:
old man of hoy wrote:
You are spot on about micro analysis. It is a product of multiple TV replays from various angles. It inevitably finds a guilty party to explain away any incident or goal. I prefer the old saying that the ball is round and can run anywhere, meaning the game will always hold surprises. Arguably the frailty shown by individual players is as important for entertainment as their strengths.

Absolutely

Every once in a while you just need to shrug your shoulders and say that didn’t run for us. You could lambast Ben white for letting sissoko in but he’s been a very good player for us this season and seemed to make an honest mistake of getting his legs in a mix so he kind of tumbled forward ahead of the ball.

2 players who have served us very well this season.

I don’t think Ramsdale or any keeper would survive making a mistake like David Seaman did in the semi v spurs that time or in Paris v Zaragoza. Benefit of the doubt doesn’t exist anymore

It seems like you’ve taken my comment that I don’t think Ramsdale is quite hitting the heights of performance he did earlier in the season and put words in my mouth and created your own argument from it.
If you like to look at goals we concede and just go ‘it’s one of those things’ then fair enough, I prefer to look at areas we can improve and will look at the goals we concede with a critical eye. Of course my opinion counts for nothing. I’m also pretty sure you wouldn’t give someone like Xhaka the benefit of the doubt for a perceived mistake he may make leading to a goal and potentially ignore the strong aspects of his play and importance to the current team that he still brings.


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