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Post #519281  Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:29 pm 
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Perhaps we should bring on Aubameyang for the second half.

He can't get the ball. Our build up play is painfully slow and he thrives on an early ball to run onto.

This is true.

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Post #519282  Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:31 pm 
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Aargh. Horrible miss by Saka.

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Impressive performance so far by Gabriel.

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Post #519284  Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:33 pm 
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Ceballos and Xhaka off.

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Post #519285  Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:35 pm 
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Ffs it’s not Aubameyangs fault, he plays in a part of the pitch our team is unable to inhabit

Ain’t Lenos either. Embarrassing to listen to people blaming these 2 all the time.


Leno should have done better on Wolves second goal. Even his biggest fan can see that surely.

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Ceballos and Xhaka off.


I swear John Jensen was a better footballer than Granit Xhaka. He’s been abysmal today and isn’t tracking back and liable to cost us another goal


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long time gooner wrote:
Aargh. Horrible miss by Saka.


He should have scored

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john1 wrote:
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Ffs it’s not Aubameyangs fault, he plays in a part of the pitch our team is unable to inhabit

Ain’t Lenos either. Embarrassing to listen to people blaming these 2 all the time.


Leno should have done better on Wolves second goal. Even his biggest fan can see that surely.

Massive deflection that he had to save with his feet because he was going the other way, silly talk


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Ceballos and Xhaka off.


I swear John Jensen was a better footballer than Granit Xhaka. He’s been abysmal today and isn’t tracking back and liable to cost us another goal


Notice I didn’t say who should come on instead.

We could go down to 9 without those two and we wouldn’t be much worse.

Why is Ceballos picking up the ball in the right back position all the time?

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TOP GUN wrote:
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Leno should have done better on Wolves second goal. Even his biggest fan can see that surely.

Massive deflection that he had to save with his feet because he was going the other way, silly talk


Have another look

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TOP GUN wrote:
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Leno should have done better on Wolves second goal. Even his biggest fan can see that surely.

Massive deflection that he had to save with his feet because he was going the other way, silly talk


And in any case, I'm not sure you can point at it for the reasons we're behind. Just get the ball to Saka as early and often as possible, and get Aubameyang near him. The commentator ex Wolves player, *%^@ off, is winding me right up


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Where does a central midfield of Xhak/Ceballos/Willock sit in terms of each prem team in the league? I'd say the following teams have a better central midfield than us: Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Spurs, Man U, Everton, Wolves, Leicester, Leeds, Villa, Southampton, West Ham


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Ash wrote:
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Massive deflection that he had to save with his feet because he was going the other way, silly talk


And in any case, I'm not sure you can point at it for the reasons we're behind. Just get the ball to Saka as early and often as possible, and get Aubameyang near him. The commentator ex Wolves player, *%^@ off, is winding me right up


I didn’t say it’s all his fault we’re behind. But he should have done better for the goal.

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We are absolutely *%^@*** rubbish. There are comfortably 6-8 teams better than us in the league at the moment. We need to give Arteta time but boy is he making hard work of our PL form. We are dreadful.

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Always look on the bright side of life, as the song goes. At least I haven’t paid £14.95 for this.

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Darren wrote:
We are absolutely *%^@*** rubbish. There are comfortably 6-8 teams better than us in the league at the moment. We need to give Arteta time but boy is he making hard work of our PL form. We are dreadful.


Agreed.

We’re not as good as we either think, or perhaps more accurately, hope we are.

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We are absolutely *%^@*** rubbish. There are comfortably 6-8 teams better than us in the league at the moment. We need to give Arteta time but boy is he making hard work of our PL form. We are dreadful.

The league table doesn’t lie.

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Nelson on for Willian


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Here comes Nelson. He must be wondering why it took so long. He can’t do any worse than what has been displayed so far (can he?).

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6 teams below us right now.

About as bad as it gets for us.

If Wolves score again to win 1-3 I think we’ll be 15th, so have five teams below us.


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long time gooner wrote:
Here comes Nelson. He must be wondering why it took so long. He can’t do any worse than what has been displayed so far (can he?).


Would rather see us lose having given some of the youngsters a chance to impress and gain experience than waste more money on wasters like Willian

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We concentrate our attack in wide areas so much. It is strange because we don't actually cross the ball that much or have a decent target or at least flood the box - so I can't see what the plan to score goals is by playing wide so much? Going wide is the easy option for footballers without good enough technical ability because there is more time and space out wide


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Bernard wrote:
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6 teams below us right now.

About as bad as it gets for us.

If Wolves score again to win 1-3 I think we’ll be 15th, so have five teams below us.

When I posted that I was thinking of the entirety of when I’ve supported us since 1963.

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Rich wrote:
We concentrate our attack in wide areas so much. It is strange because we don't actually cross the ball that much or have a decent target or at least flood the box - so I can't see what the plan to score goals is by playing wide so much? Going wide is the easy option for footballers without good enough technical ability because there is more time and space out wide

I find it very hard from the limited television perspective to work out what our overall game plan is. And this has been true for quite a few games now.

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I’m sorry folks this is now a full blown crisis. Arteta needs to get midfielders in on loan in January otherwise mark my words this can plumb any depth. This can go anywhere, do not underestimate how far we can fall. This could get really bad.


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long time gooner wrote:
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If Wolves score again to win 1-3 I think we’ll be 15th, so have five teams below us.

When I posted that I was thinking of the entirety of when I’ve supported us since 1963.


We finished 17th in 1976, that was the worst season since I started supporting The Arsenal in 1970

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I'm sure plenty of fans want someone to 'take a chance' try to make something happen - the problem with the ability of the players if I don't think they are skillful enough for any risk they take to actually pay off, and the downside is by taking that risk it leaves us vulnerable. We feel like a team who is in constant fear of conceding a goal so daren't try anything too flashy or risky to score a goal. So we're in this constant flux of dullness and calamity


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TOP GUN wrote:
I’m sorry folks this is now a full blown crisis. Arteta needs to get midfielders in on loan in January otherwise mark my words this can plumb any depth. This can go anywhere, do not underestimate how far we can fall. This could get really bad.


But not another Willian type looking for easy money to pay for steak tasting trips to Dubai

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TOP GUN wrote:
I’m sorry folks this is now a full blown crisis. Arteta needs to get midfielders in on loan in January otherwise mark my words this can plumb any depth. This can go anywhere, do not underestimate how far we can fall. This could get really bad.

Yeah. Like in next weekend’s league game you mean?

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TOP GUN wrote:
I’m sorry folks this is now a full blown crisis. Arteta needs to get midfielders in on loan in January otherwise mark my words this can plumb any depth. This can go anywhere, do not underestimate how far we can fall. This could get really bad.


I want to say you're overreacting but.... this looks bad.


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I'm sure there will be plenty of fans on line calling for Özil. But really, Özil would be on the total periphery of this game. Wolves midfield and defence would totally bully him


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Ash wrote:
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I’m sorry folks this is now a full blown crisis. Arteta needs to get midfielders in on loan in January otherwise mark my words this can plumb any depth. This can go anywhere, do not underestimate how far we can fall. This could get really bad.


I want to say you're overreacting but.... this looks bad.

Thankfully/Hopefully there really are 3 teams worse than us in this league


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long time gooner wrote:
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I’m sorry folks this is now a full blown crisis. Arteta needs to get midfielders in on loan in January otherwise mark my words this can plumb any depth. This can go anywhere, do not underestimate how far we can fall. This could get really bad.

Yeah. Like in next weekend’s league game you mean?


Thanks.

I’ve been trying to forget about that one.

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Rich wrote:
I'm sure there will be plenty of fans on line calling for Özil. But really, Özil would be on the total periphery of this game. Wolves midfield and defence would totally bully him


He'd be worth a pop.

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If you look through the squad and try to imagine what a good Arsenal side in the future looks like and you're only really taking a handful of players to build around. Gabriel, Partey, Saka.

There are others like Martinelli - we've seen very little of him really. Tierney I like but he's been 2nd best against a lot of the best wingers in the league. Saliba we hope, but all that hope is based on his price tag, if he was signed for £2m none of us would be banking on him for the future. Leno is ok but not in the top 5 GKs in the league.

Beyond that we are massively struggling


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Xhaka highlight reel from today’s game

https://twitter.com/kylevg94/status/133 ... 66627?s=21

https://twitter.com/paulwynne100/status ... 95238?s=21


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Rich wrote:
We feel like a team who is in constant fear of conceding a goal so daren't try anything too flashy or risky to score a goal. So we're in this constant flux of dullness and calamity

Arteta came in and wanted to sort the defence out. I could see the logic in that. But we lack energy further up the pitch. I still think we’d be better off with Guendouzi because energy in midfield is one of the things he does provide.


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Xhaka off Lacazette on


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It's like the team has a collective psyche and its just cracked over the beginning of this season, there was a vulnerability which is likely projected by Arteta as a novice. It turned for me on the Leicester game. Oh great here comes Lacazette, so ceballos on his own in there?


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Sigh. Great chance for Aubameyang.

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