Does anyone on here believe that all leagues will be able to recommence by July. The emphasis on ALL.

https://www.firstpost.com/health/corona ... 23331.html

Yeah they are worried about probably having to repay TV money but to believe that in 3 months it will be all gone away is delusional. Even if some countries do have a significant drop by July (and that is debatable) others will not. Can you see Italy and Spain recommencing by then? Do they intend to finish the CL and Europa?

This could be the catalyst for the breakaway Champion leagues. They need to be careful.

I know I am naturally a pessimist, but a number of suggestions being made are strange. How could it be fair to play all games in the midlands, with or without crowds. If Aston Villa stayed up you would never know if they were advantaged and others disadvantaged by such a decision. The league is about playing home and away. Not some other BS.

Would the ultra intelligencia tell us who they would rather have governing us if they are so unhappy witrh the current bunch?

Corbyn, Starmer, the Army, The Liberals, Scot Nats?

WTF could do the job better?

Spectacularly missing the point in your rush to defend, yet again, this govt.

Read Dafatone's last post.

And whatever happened to you desire not to be slagging each other off? Is "ultra intelligencia" meant as a form of endearment in the above quote? Help me out Chris, 'cos I'm confused.

It makes me smile when I see this type of defence of this government. Yes I think Corbyn would have done better re this pandemic but then I think most politicians would do a better job than Johnson. What you have to realise Chris is what this government so far has done re the benefits given to people to stay at home is socialist policy. It's gone against everything that the Tories have stood for since Thatcher. As for the Scots nats I'd take Nicola Sturgeon over any in the Tory Party anytime.

Anyway, greatly enjoying the videos on Arsenal that are sprouting on my Facebook pages.

We had some players.

Just watched Reyes (r.i.p.) getting assaulted by Man Utd., and one of the most disgraceful and cowardly refereeing performances I've ever seen.

Ramsey's goal v Galatasaray (which AG posted a link to earlier)

Pires - oh I wish we could find another duck footed Superbob.

And wasn't Wiltooooooord fantastic? But Freddy was better, especially with his red hair.

In my view his hairstyle was the only thing better about him.

I think your views on this topic are pretty well known Bernard.

And I bow to your greater expertise on hairstyles.

UK 5th place Sweden 6th place.

UK Percentage twice as large as Sweden's.

Early days but a substantial difference to date.

I read about the TV money yesterday, which partly explains why the leagues won’t make any immediate decisions, but surely they’d only be liable to repay a proportion of the money? The broadcasters have aired live games which have presumably fulfilled advertising commitments. Guarantee one thing, Sky won’t be reimbursing the great unwashed who have subscribed.

Actually not true. They already are. Same with BT Sport.

These two sites are useful
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

Hidden in his word salad Chris does touch on the most alarming possibility: that the half-measures that most countries are implementing might not flatten the curve very much. The horse has pretty much bolted and we simply don't have the capability or appetite to do what the Chinese did in Wuhan.

Still, the response to that should invoke the spirit of Churchill rather than Chamberlain ...

So another 684 deaths just announced. Sadly, this is almost certainly a very significant under-reporting of the situation since as I understand things, it only counts those who die in Hospital and who have tested positive. It doesn't include those who die in Elderly Care Homes, in Social Care Homes, in Hospices or in individual homes, almost none of whom will have been tested. I don't think it records those who have tested positive but who actually die of pre-existing health issues. This is all so tragic.

Thought they were allowing you to suspend?

It will be interesting (in a not too hopeful manner) how players contracts will be affected by this new environment. It's new territory. It's a multi billion dollar industry, not just fooball, but Rugby, basketball, etc. and in Canada and America, ice hockey, a winter event, may coincide with seasonal outbreaks if Covid-19, god forbid, becomes seasonal like its influenza cousin.

I am going to have faith in modern medicine. Unlike decades past with polio, small pox, typhoid, etc, we have at our collective disposal globally unprecedented knowledge, means and people from a breadth of areas capable of resolving some if not all answers to the problems this virus have asked of us.

As I thought, they’re allowing you to suspend, no mention of reimbursement.

I think the world was vastly underprepared for a pandemic despite the warnings that one was inevitable and possibly imminent.

Failure to heed these warnings has left govts around the world scrambling to play catch-up with a virus over which they have very little control.

I think the UK govt made a huge error initially in not taking the Chinese warnings seriously, to the extent that even back in Feb they were classing the coronavirus as "low risk", and then thinking they could "take it on the chin" and go for a herd immunity strategy. By the time they switched strategy valuable weeks had been lost and they are further behind the curve than they might have been had they locked down earlier.

That said, it's all "ifs and buts" and nobody in the word seems to know for sure what the correct strategy is, they are just going with what they perceive to be best practice and learning as they go along. Sadly, the cost of this learning is measured in lives.

Hi Soc

I think the only strategy any country could adopt was to try and isolate to buy time to prepare and get the right equipment. If you look at the Chinese curve they definitely seem to have got it right and are under more control now

The problem was the government pursued its own populist genocidal strategy because of Cummings and the money lobby ..

https://twitter.com/marieannuk/status/1 ... 87618?s=21

When Gary Neville makes more sense than the government you have REAL problems

You love the nazi-related lingo don't you TG. First we had eugenics, now we've got 'genocidal'.

I’m more than happy with that. I’m quite prepared to forego the two missed weeks. Not exactly the biggest financial hit that I have taken due to the situation and all remarkably small beer given what else is going on.

Looks like I think that Sky have done okay and you don’t. All in the eye of the beholder.

That great journalist Hugh McIlvaney referred to sport as a magnificent triviality(he actually paraphrased Phil Bull the founder of the Timeform organization)

I always kinda bought into this thinking...sport is great but in the overall scheme of things it’s trivial. I argued this a bit with my elder brother who disagreed and as one example referenced Jesse Owens’ performance in the 1936 Olympics that transcended sport and stuck it to a dictator

I’ve changed my mind about it being a triviality in recent days.

In this enforced absence I realize how much sport does for me personally. I am lost without my weekly fix and I know a great many of you are too.Long since past playing I now do it vicariously through those 11 players in an Arsenal shirt
Sport is a release valve and I think it’s benefit to society’s well being is incalculable ....a salve on our collective furrowed brows
Anyhow ladies (are there any left on the forum) and gentlemen love from Locked Down Philadelphia. Wherever you are in the world good luck and God bless

Bit of trivia to end. I have a Premier League winners medal, scored 18 goals at Highbury and I am still playing in the EPL. Who am I?

Well if they can’t provide a service least they can do is not charge you for it. I’m more interested in what they would do for their subscribers if they did in fact go after the EPL for repayment.... not that I think it will happen.

I’m a fully paid up contributor to Sky’s coffers to the tune of £100+ per month and was looking to sack it off prior to all this kicking off, we finally figured it didn’t represent good value for money.

I don’t, but Cummings does. If you choose to love these people that’s up to you but they are utter wrong uns

Genocide stands for the deliberate killing of a large group of people. Disagree that “herd immunity” is precisely that?

Look forward to your non response of this post

Hi Andy,

Best wishes to you too.

Great question, but must be a trick surely? I've had a long hard think and even cheated but no clue.

Jamie Vardy

Sorry John....it’s a rascally trick question!!

Very good rich

John. Highbury stadium is also where Fleetwood play

Balls! So it is.

Great question.

Cheers Andy, good question

what he said :-)

I don't know. The bloke next door said I could sleep in his Anderson shelter if Mrs. Hoy gets the virus. She said she'd use it even if I'm virus free...

I'd look back further to the 'there is no such thing as society' days of the Prime Minister who smashed consensus politics to pieces and sold off most of our assets to the highest bidders.

I think there is at least one who has never revealed she’s female.

What makes you say I am a lover of Cummings? Pure conjecture on your part.
I do think your language is unduly dramatic though. Over the top. I agree, as does everybody else (including the government), that the herd immunity idea was a bad idea - but to describe it as genocidal is absurd.
For genocide think of the Armenians, the Jews, the Tutsi.

Want to give us a clue Bern or is it moderator/member privilege

Is it Daz?

Sorry I can’t. It’s for her to decide and if she wants to keep it quiet, that’s her right. It isn’t Daz though.

Fair play . Stay safe Bernard.

I’ll repeat

Genocide stands for the deliberate killing of a large group of people.

Disagree that “herd immunity” is precisely that? (It kills 1-3%)

Yes or no