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Post #498761  Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:02 pm 
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Just read Hertha Berlin are interested in Xhaka in January.
Let it be true

For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club.

Hmm.

But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..?


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Well, he kept his mouth shut for more than a year. And now he is back quacking again. I wouldn't call him a prick, just a bitter man.


I'm going to say it. Yes, I think Wenger is happy Arsenal aren't doing well after he was forced out. I think he is very bitter about how he got forced out and is taking hidden pleasure of it all. I think he feels (in his mind) somewhat vindicated that the reasons for Arsenal's malaise wasn't him but lied elsewhere.

Yes, I said it.

This is hard for me. But I think you are correct. Okay now I have hit rock bottom personally. I am starting to agree with AG.

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Hi TG,

I've said this many times, over the past few years Liverpool have created the perfect storm, recruited a top manager whilst buying and selling brilliantly. Who would have thought that Mané, Salah and Firmino would turn out to be the worldbeaters they have. Selling Coutinho for £120m and buying a worldclass goalkeeper and CB has proved a masterstroke. Add that touch of luck at the right times that everybody needs and it is a potent mix.



Not forgetting Klopp also bought Oxlade Chamberlain who some on this very forum considered the greatest player to ever don an Arsenal shirt .

Didn't Ox take a substantial paycut to get the hell away from Wenger's quicksand to Jurgen's verdant braes..?


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For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club.

Hmm.

But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..?

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Post #498765  Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:55 am 
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I'll know if Arteta is the right person if Mustafi is in an Arsenal kit at kick off next season.

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Where is the scene where he tells Mustafi the only Arsenal kit he's going to wear with his name again is the one he buys at the club gift shop? Where is the scene he hugs Hodd as well?


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Isn't this technically our 4th manager in less than 3 years? I hope we don't become Newcastle, Palace, West Ham, take your pick.

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Uncut Gems. Must see movie. Adam Sandler is great in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTfJp2Ts9X8&t=3s

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thofman wrote:
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For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club.

Hmm.

But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..?

Maybe we could all chip in ?


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Well, he kept his mouth shut for more than a year. And now he is back quacking again. I wouldn't call him a prick, just a bitter man.

Speaking of bitter old men ...

Jose Mourinho aims subtle swipe at Arsenal over Mikel Arteta appointment

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/20/jose-mou ... -11943354/


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"New broom sweeps clean"

I wonder how thorough Arteta will sweep. Hopefully, he gives more game time to the younger players. Blood them in properly, instead of chucking them in without a proper coaching plan. Freddie, with hands tied behind his back, had no choice but to mix and match. Unfortunately, it was poorly mixed and badly matched. Emery simply had no support for his plans, if there ever was one. I think the senior players had botched it up for both of them, and amongst them, there was no synergy nor any intent to synergise.

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Well, he kept his mouth shut for more than a year. And now he is back quacking again. I wouldn't call him a prick, just a bitter man.

Speaking of bitter old men ...

Jose Mourinho aims subtle swipe at Arsenal over Mikel Arteta appointment

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/20/jose-mou ... -11943354/


Both experienced tremendous successes in their prime. But both have fallen from their prime. Thus, their bitterness now.
Moral of the story - Never reach your prime :42laughter:

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Uncut Gems. Must see movie. Adam Sandler is great in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTfJp2Ts9X8&t=3s


Good to see Sandler venture out of his normal comedy movies. Thanks AG, will catch it when it comes to our shores.

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Post #498774  Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:39 am 
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For a “financially sensible package” according to the German club.

Hmm.

But no mention of how much they want from Arsenal to take him..?


Don't you mean how much they want from us to take him? :icon_exclaim1:


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Post #498775  Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:03 am 
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Yeah right Mikel! Like those 2 dickheads know the requirements for being successful at football!

Wilts is right, don’t expect too much folks


I totally disagree ....... just been skyping with my son who lives in Copenhagen , he has been giving me all the good oil , reckons Arteta is the man .
Has already given the team a pep talk on what he expects .

The son's take on things has got me all inspired and enthused .

I think Everton will still beat us with the Ferguson factor trumping Ljungberrg's wet approach but I expect
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Post #498776  Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:17 am 
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Didn't Ox take a substantial paycut to get the hell away from Wenger's quicksand to Jurgen's verdant braes..?

No doubt Thofman ...that would make perfect sense

... but my comment was pitched at that lovable litte ret-ard Socrates ..... whose love of the Ox put Bernard's fixation with Mertesacker and Clichy well in the shade .


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:icon_scratch: well Ash ..... four are black ...not sure what Guendouzi is classified as .


I think 'midfielder'.

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https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/19/arsene-wenger-takes-swipe-arsenal-compares-club-liverpool-11937233/

I mean really, is there a bigger *%^@ in World Football than this old man?

wenger wrote:
When I left the club it was in a very strong financial position and they bought many players in between. They haven’t all worked out, but it’s not a question of time. The change can be very efficient and happen quickly. It’s about making the right decisions, that’s what its about in football. We speak about Liverpool and their success. Of course they have a great manager but you have to say that Liverpool in the last three or four years, they bought the right players.



What a prick


Piss off troll.

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Well, it didn't take long for Mourinho to go back to type.
https://www.givemesport.com/1531563-jos ... utoplay=on

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COYG!

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Thanks for posting the Athletic article, interesting read.

I thought Arteta played his press conference and first day at Arsenal very well yesterday. Possibly one of the first people in power at arsenal who you believe really understands what the problem has been for the last 10 years.


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Our new goalkeeping coach is inaki Cana from Brentford. All our coaching appointments are from people working within British football already


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The team I just saw on my screen is a bit of a joke really. Saka at RB, Chambers again Nelson. No Guendouzi. I’m going to bed & will watch it in the morning.

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Super read. Thanks for that Greeny.

Lots of cause for optimism there despite the complete absence of experience as being the main man. Fingers crossed.

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I don't know but only from what I'm told is that Graham was a vocal coach.

Interesting. I didn't know he was musical.

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Post #498785  Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:12 pm 
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Interesting aside from Ljungberg in his BT Sport pre-match interview as he says Özil is injured but adds: “Mesut wouldn’t have been in the squad anyway given what happened in the last game.”
Suggests he would have dropped Özil for show of dissent after being substituted v City.

It really is time for Özil to *%^@ off


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
The team I just saw on my screen is a bit of a joke really. Saka at RB, Chambers again Nelson. No Guendouzi. I’m going to bed & will watch it in the morning.


It is

For me it looks like Freddie is sticking 2 fingers up at some of the players who let him down whilst he was in charge

He’s picked Xhaka and Torreira though which never works


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The team I just saw on my screen is a bit of a joke really. Saka at RB, Chambers again Nelson. No Guendouzi. I’m going to bed & will watch it in the morning.

Not sure what formation he's going with, but hopefully everyone in the starting XI will have understood they are playing for their futures at The Arsenal. Let's see who wants to be there.

Also, all the fullbacks are injured, so hopefully the team has been picked from the players that want to be here, and I just hope the players know what they have to do.

Two actual defenders plus Rowe instead of Özil. It should be fun anyway!

Links anyone?

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Wow, that's some team Freddies picked.


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Super read. Thanks for that Greeny.

Lots of cause for optimism there despite the complete absence of experience as being the main man. Fingers crossed.

And toes.

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Not sure what formation he's going with, but hopefully everyone in the starting XI will have understood they are playing for their futures at The Arsenal. Let's see who wants to be there.

Also, all the fullbacks are injured, so hopefully the team has been picked from the players that want to be here, and I just hope the players know what they have to do.

Two actual defenders plus Rowe instead of Özil. It should be fun anyway!

Links anyone?



Try some of these Decaf.

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Wow, that's some team Freddies picked.

Could be what he wanted to do all along (injuries aside of course). I can't imagine he was picking Özil from conviction!

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TOP GUN wrote:
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The team I just saw on my screen is a bit of a joke really. Saka at RB, Chambers again Nelson. No Guendouzi. I’m going to bed & will watch it in the morning.


It is

For me it looks like Freddie is sticking 2 fingers up at some of the players who let him down whilst he was in charge

He’s picked Xhaka and Torreira though which never works

Problem is that neither does Torreira and Guendouzi. I think Xhaka is a good call here.

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Greeny wrote:
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Super read. Thanks for that Greeny.

Lots of cause for optimism there despite the complete absence of experience as being the main man. Fingers crossed.

Indeed

This bit gave me the most hope...

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In his final season at Arsenal, the club’s official website asked him to imagine setting up ‘Mikel Arteta FC’ and the ideas that would underpin it. “My philosophy will be clear,” Arteta said. “I will have everyone 120 per cent committed, that’s the first thing. If not, you don’t play for me. When it’s time to work it’s time to work, and when it’s time to have fun then I’m the first one to do it, but that commitment is vital. Then I want the football to be expressive, entertaining. I cannot have a concept of football where everything is based on the opposition.

“We have to dictate the game, we have to be the ones taking the initiative, and we have to entertain the people coming to watch us. I’m 100 per cent convinced of those things, and I think I could do it.”



He was Captain as well, so not totally without experience as a main man, if not the main man


I'm buzzing
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Yeah. CORY! :6encouragement: :5encouragement:

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socrates wrote:
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Two actual defenders plus Rowe instead of Özil. It should be fun anyway!

Links anyone?



Try some of these Decaf.

http://vipboxe.com/soccer

http://vipboxing.top/soccer/watch-397a6 ... 1838632587

Thanks Soc! I'll give it a bash.

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Decaf wrote:
Yeah. CORY! :6encouragement: :5encouragement:

Who's Cory? Anyway, here's to a pre-Mikel bounce :22encouragement:


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bromley gooner wrote:
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Yeah. CORY! :6encouragement: :5encouragement:

Who's Cory? Anyway, here's to a pre-Mikel bounce :22encouragement:

:42laughter: COYR!

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Greeny wrote:
@ Decaf, and anyone else

german link here
http://cdn.livetv244.me/webplayer2.php? ... &ci=1&si=1

french link here
http://cdn.livetv244.me/webplayer2.php? ... &ci=1&si=1

nothing english found yet

Probably not going to need commentary for this one anyway


3-0 to The Arse

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Bum!!! Martinelli doesn’t look good. Not what we need at the moment.

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Great block by Saka. Good to see.

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We're under too much pressure at the moment.


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