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Post #497401  Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:18 am 
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My money's on Poch


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So much for the special relationship between Tuchel and Aubameyang


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Post #497403  Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:18 am 
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Tuchel sacked

Bloody quick. Thought Todd Boehly may take a bit longer than Abramovich used to. Wonder if it’s start as you mean to go on?

Obviously CL and world champions title meant f all.

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Tuchel sacked

Wow. The new regime isn’t messing about is it

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Tuchel out?! Rocky start but Chelsea are only 5 points off us. I guess after spending so much money the expectations are an immediate return with results.

I think he's a good manager. Not sure if he needed more time, wrong fit for whatever reason, but he's got a decent track record.

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So much for the special relationship between Tuchel and Aubameyang

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Post #497407  Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:24 am 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Bloody quick. Thought Todd Boehly may take a bit longer than Abramovich used to. Wonder if it’s start as you mean to go on?

Obviously CL and world champions title meant f all.

They’re sixth in the league so hardly languishing at the bottom of the table. New signings often take a while to bed in anyway. Seems obscenity quick.


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Post #497408  Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:29 am 
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Imagine letting a manager spunk 300 million then sacking him.

Football just gets madder and madder


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Post #497409  Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:31 am 
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Gonna be pochettino

Aubameyang doesn’t feature in his plans and will be sold.


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Post #497410  Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:35 am 
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Very odd. Back him by spending £250m and then sack him a week after the window closes.

Seriously flakey owners.


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Really surprised they'd fire Tuchel this early in the season. I haven't been convinced with him since he arrived, despite the CL win, but this seems extremely rash. Only reason I can think of is they have someone like Pochettino lined up and don't want to risk him going somewhere else.


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Sacking Tuchel is just mad isn't it. I mean all those new signings and he got barely any time to even work with them let alone create a cohesive team.

The sensible but risky move would be Potter who knows with that regime.


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Tuchel has a track record of falling out with the people he works for / with. Mainz, Borussia Dortmund, PSG - none ended well.

Whoever comes in will only have a few matches before the World Cup. We play them at their place on 5th November - the penultimate game before the break.


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If you were potter would you take that job ? I wouldn’t

He’s on the south coast in Brighton which is a great place. The fans love him. He’s created a squad and ethos that mirrors his attitude and it’s very much a long term job.

Chelsea will sack him on the first dip in form and blame his inexperience at the highest level. Unless he’s winning across the board the fans will moan because he isn’t a “name” and he won’t be appreciated

I wouldn’t contemplate it


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It’s amazing the way Chelsea are just wankers.

Their wankiness traverses generations, changes in coaches, changes in players and even changes in ownership.

They are just multi generational wankers. It’s amazing


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If you were potter would you take that job ? I wouldn’t

He’s on the south coast in Brighton which is a great place. The fans love him. He’s created a squad and ethos that mirrors his attitude and it’s very much a long term job.

Chelsea will sack him on the first dip in form and blame his inexperience at the highest level. Unless he’s winning across the board the fans will moan because he isn’t a “name” and he won’t be appreciated

I wouldn’t contemplate it


I know one or two Brighton supporters - actually they're old Arse-supporting mates who moved down that way and watch their football locally. They say that Brighton are pretty dire to watch and that every goal is a surprise. They're all surprised at their relative success.


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Sacking Tuchel is just mad isn't it. I mean all those new signings and he got barely any time to even work with them let alone create a cohesive team.

The sensible but risky move would be Potter who knows with that regime.

Mad but Tuchel didn't seem too happy. His pressers seemed down beat.

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Chavs have approached Brighton for Potter according to Chelsea mouthpiece journo Matt Law.

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My money's on Poch

Zidane's been floated around as well. Getting Poch seems more likely though. Potter should stay at Brighton.

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Gonna be pochettino

Aubameyang doesn’t feature in his plans and will be sold.

Chelsea ratings: Aubameyang's poor 4/10 form epitomises Champions League loss to Dinamo Zagreb

https://www.espn.com.au/football/chelse ... amo-zagreb


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Chelsea ratings: Aubameyang's poor 4/10 form epitomises Champions League loss to Dinamo Zagreb

https://www.espn.com.au/football/chelse ... amo-zagreb

I saw one report that gave Aubameyang 3/10 for his performance last night.


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Bernard wrote:
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Chelsea ratings: Aubameyang's poor 4/10 form epitomises Champions League loss to Dinamo Zagreb

https://www.espn.com.au/football/chelse ... amo-zagreb

I saw one report that gave Aubameyang 3/10 for his performance last night.

He was truly dreadful. The commentary team were saying that they could not understand it and how he was so far off his usual form.

In my opinion that is now his usual form.

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Some odd quotes from Leno today, seemed to suggest him not being picked at Arsenal was political and not performance related and he ‘had to get out of there’.
He kept very quiet whilst he was here, model professional really. I can’t think there was anything political. Arteta wanted Ramsdale as he was good with his feet and it was a huge requirement for his type of football. Leno also had 1 year left on his deal so I’m not sure it was Leno forcing the move, the club were happy to sell.
I like Leno and he should be at a bigger club than Fulham, but the fact that only Fulham came in for him says a lot


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Pickford is out of our game at the weekend, Everton back up GK injured as well so I think it’s Begovic in goal for them. So now he’ll either have the game of his life or a shocker


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DHD wrote:
Tuchel has a track record of falling out with the people he works for / with. Mainz, Borussia Dortmund, PSG - none ended well.

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The new owner seemingly is the first in the morning and barges into the dressing room to talk to players after every game. This won't end well for them. :58big-emoticons:

Liverpool being torn a new one in Napoli.

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Tuchel has a track record of falling out with the people he works for / with. Mainz, Borussia Dortmund, PSG - none ended well.

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The new owner seemingly is the first in the morning and barges into the dressing room to talk to players after every game. This won't end well for them. :58big-emoticons:

Liverpool being torn a new one in Napoli.

I’m watching the Napoli game and keeping an eye on updates from the Tottenham game which sounds to be excruciatingly dire. No doubt Kane will bail them out once again.

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Pickford is out of our game at the weekend, Everton back up GK injured as well so I think it’s Begovic in goal for them. So now he’ll either have the game of his life or a shocker

That’s unfortunate. Not bad for a third keeper. He’s only 35 which is no limiter for a keeper.

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It's 4-0 and Liverpool are lucky at that.

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Kvaratskhelia From Napoli looks some player


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Kvaratskhelia From Napoli looks some player

Reminds me of Hleb. Brilliant technique but wouldn't trust him to score.

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I’m watching the Napoli game and keeping an eye on updates from the Tottenham game which sounds to be excruciatingly dire. No doubt Kane will bail them out once again.

Sadly it was Richarlison with two goals in the last quarter of an hour. Marseille were down to ten men shortly after half time. I didn’t watch it but someone who did told me Guendzouzi and Tavares both played well.


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DHD wrote:
So much for the special relationship between Tuchel and Aubameyang


Must admit I am looking forward to Aubameyang being frozen out of games. Totally dislike this guy now.

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Yes Kane is annoyingly good isn’t he. Best in the world? That Haaland bloke looks quite useful.

I think Haaland has to do it for far longer than half a dozen games at City for me to put him above Kane, who in addition to his goals also provides plenty of assists. It may well change (I’m sure it will as they both grow older with Kane getting into, and further into, his thirties and Haaland towards and into his mid-twenties), but at this point in time I still rate Kane as the best centre forward.

Watching last night’s highlights has reminded me that we failed to mention another strong candidate for best centre forward in the world. And this one does have a long consistent track record. Lewandowski is plain scary if you are the opposition.

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I think Haaland has to do it for far longer than half a dozen games at City for me to put him above Kane, who in addition to his goals also provides plenty of assists. It may well change (I’m sure it will as they both grow older with Kane getting into, and further into, his thirties and Haaland towards and into his mid-twenties), but at this point in time I still rate Kane as the best centre forward.

Watching last night’s highlights has reminded me that we failed to mention another strong candidate for best centre forward in the world. And this one does have a long consistent track record. Lewandowski is plain scary if you are the opposition.

When younger I would completely agree. Now I’d put Kane ahead of him. If Bayern last season and Barcelona this season were given the free choice of having either Kane or Lewandowski in their team, I am absolutely certain they would both choose Kane.


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Interesting to see the current odds for this season’s Europa League winner. Arsenal are favourites at 5/1, Manchester United are second favourites at 6/1, Roma are third favourites at 14/1 and Lazio are fourth favourites at 20/1. The two Italian clubs (from Rome) are thus less fancied by quite a considerable margin.

So Arsenal’s defeat at Old Trafford wasn’t enough to make Manchester United the new favourites. Having said that it has made me less confident as if or when we end up playing them, I firmly believe Manchester United are more than capable of knocking us out be it in an earlier round or the final.

Obviously the odds may change when we know which of the Champions League teams drop into the Europa League after the group stage. It looks highly likely one will be Inter Milan, who lost at home to Bayern last night and also have Barcelona in the same group.


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Pickford is out of our game at the weekend, Everton back up GK injured as well so I think it’s Begovic in goal for them. So now he’ll either have the game of his life or a shocker

That’s unfortunate. Not bad for a third keeper. He’s only 35 which is no limiter for a keeper.

It turns out, perhaps unsurprisingly, that Begovic is their reserve keeper.

The injured keeper is Andy Lonergan and he is their third keeper behind Begovic.

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So Liverpool lose a metronomic passer in midfield and fail to strengthen that area enough in the window and suddenly their defence looks all at sea now it’s not protected by 3 hard working central midfielders. Trent Alexander-Arnold is a woeful defender, watch him for Napoli’s 2nd and 3rd goals, he just stands there, no interest in defending.

Liverpool are playing a talented but very young Elliot alongside a clearly past it Milner in midfield. Henderson’s legs don’t carry him as much any more. Fabinho remains top class but can’t do it all and Thiago is constantly injured.

I wish we were playing Liverpool very soon. I can’t recall many times we play the best teams with a fully fit 11 and they have injuries and depleted teams


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When younger I would completely agree. Now I’d put Kane ahead of him. If Bayern last season and Barcelona this season were given the free choice of having either Kane or Lewandowski in their team, I am absolutely certain they would both choose Kane.

Lewandowski's age alone hardly makes him a worse player though - it just makes it unlikely he'll keep this level for as long as Kane can be expected to. Lewandowski's past three seasons have been his best, and he was a better player at 33 than he was at 28 which is quite remarkable.


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