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Post #509641  Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:21 pm 
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Molde score their third of the night. Fortunately two into their own net.


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Nice of them to help us along again. The defender must have panicked having Kolasinac behind him. Ha ha.

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Post #509643  Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:23 pm 
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We haven’t played well, obviously.

But we’ve still been better than them.

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Post #509644  Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:25 pm 
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Pépé flattering to deceive again.

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long time gooner wrote:
Nice of them to help us along again. The defender must have panicked having Kolasinac behind him. Ha ha.


Heard his heavy breathing perhaps, also, for me, he should of hit the target theeeere.


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Post #509646  Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:26 pm 
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I know how to motivate him.

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Pépé flattering to deceive again.

And scoring too. :42laughter:

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john1 wrote:
We haven’t played well, obviously.

But we’ve still been better than them.

That's true. 3-1 Saka to Pépé.


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Post #509649  Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:28 pm 
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Pépé 3-1. Saka with the assist. First bit of true class all night


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Post #509650  Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:29 pm 
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I wonder if Kolasinac has been affected by the Özil situation. They’re best mates.


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I know it's childish but in my head Molde are 'Mouldy'.
Well, if Nketiah can be 'Nketi - eh' why not.


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john1 wrote:
I know how to motivate him.


You might be the only one!


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I wonder if Kolasinac has been affected by the Özil situation. They’re best mates.

Seems more than likely.

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Passes in the final 1/3rd
Ceballos 5
Xhaka 23

Strange to have Ceballos so deep


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I know it's childish but in my head Molde are 'Mouldy'.
Well, if Nketiah can be 'Nketi - eh' why not.


Ha, just told the wife we were playing a team called Mouldy. Her response, "You're mouldy." One upped me on the childishness there. You have to respect it.


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bromley gooner wrote:
I know it's childish but in my head Molde are 'Mouldy'.
Well, if Nketiah can be 'Nketi - eh' why not.

A bit like the team that I know as Carrier Bag.

And many years ago England were tormented by a German player that I knew as rubber knickers.

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Ash wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
I know it's childish but in my head Molde are 'Mouldy'.
Well, if Nketiah can be 'Nketi - eh' why not.


Ha, just told the wife we were playing a team called Mouldy. Her response, "You're mouldy." One upped me on the childishness there. You have to respect it.

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Why do refs never see deliberately pushing a defender in to his on rushing GK as serious dangerous play?!


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Nice. Willock has deserted that.

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Well done Willock, got one in the end.


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Willock 4-1 he deserves that

Missed an easier one moments before.

2 lovely passes from Elneny and Pépé for the goal


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When Elneny came on my first thought was I hope he doesn’t get injured

Sana’a delivery from the left infinitely better than Kolasinac’s


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8 2nd half subs and only 2 minutes added on. With added on time take whatever you think it should be and add at least 1 of the score is within 1 goal and take off at least 1 of the game is done and dusted


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Thought we were better once Xhaka came off. Too many with a couldn’t care less mentality for a lot of this game. Saka pass to Pépé was my highlight for the night and closely followed by Pépé to Willock. Pépé only played for about 20 minutes and that is not good enough.

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Willock good again. The question is how he breaks in to the premier league team? I’m not sure he can whilst we’re play the 3-4-3 with only 2 CM’s. But if we move to a 4-3-3 he’s probably the best we have at getting in the box and being a genius me goal and assist threat


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Joe should play instead of Willian in the Prem.

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Goonie wrote:
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Joe should play instead of Willian in the Prem.

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Maybe it was asking too much of Willian to start consecutively against MU and Molde.

I think that we are still trying to find players who compliment each other. I thought Willian bought Bellerin a lot more into the game. When Pépé plays that front position there is no combination with Bellerin. I don’t know if Willock would work. No matter what I am struggling to put Pépé in my team.

Which is also true of Partey and Xhaka- I don’t think they will work together. In today’s game I thought Xhaka was poor. He played a number of square balls across our box to players who really weren’t in a better position. A square ball in this situation is low percentage gain IMO. Would look at selling him in January and spend the money on improving the squad.

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A win is a win. No one got hurt. I'll take that, thank you.

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Put that one to bed, now on to Villa. We need to impose ourselves against Villa, and put down a marker. Same team against MU would do nicely. No Xhaka please. Keep Elneny and Partey partnership on.

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long time gooner wrote:
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Pépé flattering to deceive again.

And scoring too. :42laughter:

I like this sort of flattering to deceive.

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Just hope our number one keeper is a bit better in our next game. Even he knew he should have saved it.

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long time gooner wrote:
Nice. Willock has deserted that.

The cherry on the cheesecake?

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Goonie wrote:
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A bit like the team that I know as Carrier Bag.

And many years ago England were tormented by a German player that I knew as rubber knickers.

Rummenigge?

Well spotted. :53big-emoticons:

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
No matter what I am struggling to put Pépé in my team.

I didn’t know it was you who picked the team.

At the end of the day we won 4-1. That’s a good result. Just because people don’t like or rate individual players they take any opportunity to have digs at them. What are people expecting? Presumably a bigger win than a three goal margin against a side who to me, didn’t look mugs? Perhaps we should all try and give at least a passing nod to being realistic?


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Put that one to bed, now on to Villa. We need to impose ourselves against Villa, and put down a marker. Same team against MU would do nicely. No Xhaka please. Keep Elneny and Partey partnership on.

Can you think of any outstanding displays that Elneny has had for Arsenal, other than last weekend at Old Trafford? Because I can’t. Suddenly some are appearing to see Elneny as undroppable on the strength of one game. Look, I would bring Elneny back myself for the next match. But I am at least prepared to admit that Xhaka has had many more good games for Arsenal than Elneny has.

Before the game at Manchester United, would anyone have been bothered if Elneny had been sold? Because I wouldn’t.


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Can you think of any outstanding displays that Elneny has had for Arsenal, other than last weekend at Old Trafford? Because I can’t. Suddenly some are appearing to see Elneny as undroppable on the strength of one game. Look, I would bring Elneny back myself for the next match. But I am at least prepared to admit that Xhaka has had many more good games for Arsenal than Elneny has.

Before the game at Manchester United, would anyone have been bothered if Elneny had been sold? Because I wouldn’t.


Chelsea last year, cup game I think, where he played as defensive midfield and was superb. It was a great performance.


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Can you think of any outstanding displays that Elneny has had for Arsenal, other than last weekend at Old Trafford? Because I can’t. Suddenly some are appearing to see Elneny as undroppable on the strength of one game. Look, I would bring Elneny back myself for the next match. But I am at least prepared to admit that Xhaka has had many more good games for Arsenal than Elneny has.

Before the game at Manchester United, would anyone have been bothered if Elneny had been sold? Because I wouldn’t.

Chelsea last year, cup game I think, where he played as defensive midfield and was superb. It was a great performance.

Last season he didn’t play any of our games against Chelsea. I know you said ‘last year’ so I checked the 2018/19 season. Elneny’s only appearance against Chelsea was as a 71st minute substitute on 19th January 2019, which you’re right is last year (until 1/1/21) even though it was two seasons ago. He must have been good for that 20 minutes or so for it to stick in your mind that much. I don’t remember it.


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Bernard wrote:
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Put that one to bed, now on to Villa. We need to impose ourselves against Villa, and put down a marker. Same team against MU would do nicely. No Xhaka please. Keep Elneny and Partey partnership on.

Can you think of any outstanding displays that Elneny has had for Arsenal, other than last weekend at Old Trafford? Because I can’t. Suddenly some are appearing to see Elneny as undroppable on the strength of one game. Look, I would bring Elneny back myself for the next match. But I am at least prepared to admit that Xhaka has had many more good games for Arsenal than Elneny has.

Before the game at Manchester United, would anyone have been bothered if Elneny had been sold? Because I wouldn’t.

I'd agree on struggling to recall any super Elneny games. I think his first few games with us were a bit of a breath of fresh air because of his energy.
I think he has to stay in the team but in a 2 man central midfield it looks like it is Partey + 1, and the other will be decided game to game.
Ceballos and Xhaka are quite similar in their strengths and weaknesses. Elneny is different. The things he has the others don't is more pace, mobility, energy and stamina - and you could argue discipline and lack of risk taking. Ceballos and Xhaka should trump Elneny in general passing and technique stats but watching Elneny recently I think that gap has closed. Elneny has also shown an ability to dribble forward to beat a press which Xhaka definitely cant do.

It is of course about the right balance and finding complimenting players for the team.

Other than Gabriel and Partey I think Saka has become a hugely important part of the team because he does things other can't from the position he plays


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How has Joe willock been overlooked for the Eng U21 squad picked this morning? Oliver Skipp, Josh DaSilva, Dwight McNeil, Eze, Sessegnon and Connor Gallagher all picked ahead of him


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How has Joe willock been overlooked for the Eng U21 squad picked this morning? Oliver Skipp, Josh DaSilva, Dwight McNeil, Eze, Sessegnon and Connor Gallagher all picked ahead of him


Maybe because he missed some very good chances against mediocre opposition? He's developing but needs to have aspiration. He's not 'there' yet.


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