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Post #472001  Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:44 pm 
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Yes, complete frustration at a poor ref, equally completely frustrated at our tired, poor and weak performance.

You haven't been simply complaining the ref is poor Rich, you've been suggesting that he's biased against us. Frankly it is delusional.


It’s not. He’s been a homer. Not outrageous but a homer none the less.


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Post #472002  Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:44 pm 
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Just too much for a young, inexperienced and thin squad.

I still think we’ve done well to get where we are.

I mean, look at Man. Utd.

Yep, but at the end of season inquest just look who will take the biggest stick from the media. Arsenal who no one put in their top 4 and most had down in 7/8th - or Man U that everyone had in their top 4 and we're expected to make a title challenge


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Post #472003  Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:45 pm 
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We're still in this - Just need 3 goals in 5 minutes

The optimism is admirable.

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Newcastle look like the side with it all to play for.

Our players are mental midgets the lot of them.

As someone said on twitter, if you are going to go out of CL contention at least do it with a bang not a whimper.

Ødegaard, Xhaka and Elneny has to be one of the slowest weakest central midfields in Arsenal's history. Completely outfought and outmuscled today, ironically by a player labelled a flop (Joe Linton) and a player we were linked with Guimaraes.


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We're still in this - Just need 3 goals in 5 minutes


I’ll have 3 of what you’re having please.


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We're still in this - Just need 3 goals in 5 minutes


Lacazette will provide them

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Newcastle look like the side with it all to play for.

Our players are mental midgets the lot of them.

As someone said on twitter, if you are going to go out of CL contention at least do it with a bang not a whimper.

Ødegaard, Xhaka and Elneny has to be one of the slowest weakest central midfields in Arsenal's history. Completely outfought and outmuscled today, ironically by a player labelled a flop (Joe Linton) and a player we were linked with Guimaraes.


The thing is it's not a surprise. I had a feeling we'd lose and I wasn't the only one.

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Post #472008  Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:46 pm 
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All said and done - not good enough.

No excuses. Need better players.


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It’s not all bad news. We’ve got 6 minutes to equalise.

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Ash wrote:
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You haven't been simply complaining the ref is poor Rich, you've been suggesting that he's biased against us. Frankly it is delusional.


It’s not. He’s been a homer. Not outrageous but a homer none the less.

I'm not buying that narrative Ash. Anyway, it's all academic now.


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Post #472011  Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:47 pm 
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2minutes a goal. Easy.


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Post #472012  Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 8:48 pm 
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Ash wrote:
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You haven't been simply complaining the ref is poor Rich, you've been suggesting that he's biased against us. Frankly it is delusional.


It’s not. He’s been a homer. Not outrageous but a homer none the less.

Exactly. I don't think refs go in to games thinking I don;t want Arsenal to win this and i'll do everything in my power to make sure they don't. But I think you'd have to be very naive to believe refs aren't influenced by certain crowds and certain atmospheres and that certain players and teams are given greater leniency and are reffed different. It has quite literally been admitted by ex refs that it happens


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bromley gooner wrote:
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It’s not. He’s been a homer. Not outrageous but a homer none the less.

I'm not buying that narrative Ash. Anyway, it's all academic now.


I mean he has I don’t care what you’re buying.


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Ash wrote:
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I'm not buying that narrative Ash. Anyway, it's all academic now.


I mean he has I don’t care what you’re buying.

Grow up mate.


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We've had 2 shots on goal all night. :sad4:


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bromley gooner wrote:
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I mean he has I don’t care what you’re buying.

Grow up mate.


Ok. Stop calling people delusional


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john1 wrote:
Just too much for a young, inexperienced and thin squad.

I still think we’ve done well to get where we are.

I mean, look at Man. Utd.

That's true of course. The thing that is so devastating is that in the final stretch, with top 4 in our hands, we lost against Crystal Palace, Brighton, Southampton and Newcastle. That is a very tough pill to swallow, especially losing like this to such a loathsome club, sponsored by a state where human rights don't matter.

Overall though, the target for me going into the season was getting back into Europe, and we've done that. I think we've taken a big step forward, not just in terms of league position, but with the way we play. We've seen an identity forming, with a team that's fighting for each other and the manager. We know how we want to play, we just don't have the experience and depth to execute it with consistency yet. Big summer coming up, because 2-3 players of the right quality and I can really see this team taking off.


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All said and done - not good enough.

No excuses. Need better players.

Not good enough today and last thursday. But 5th is better than we expected and anyone expected at the start of the season. it feels like failure because we have been so close to 4th

The starting defence and midfield is ok, add strikers and depth and we're hugely stronger.

We're comparing a U23 team with no striker against Spurs with 3 of the deadliest strikers in europe. We ran them all the way


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Rich wrote:
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Just too much for a young, inexperienced and thin squad.

I still think we’ve done well to get where we are.

I mean, look at Man. Utd.

Yep, but at the end of season inquest just look who will take the biggest stick from the media. Arsenal who no one put in their top 4 and most had down in 7/8th - or Man U that everyone had in their top 4 and we're expected to make a title challenge


Yeh, but United have had their worst season in PL history and Spurs relying totally on the front three.

It was the Palace, Brighton and Southampton trilogy that did for us. Even 4 points out of that would have been huge.

Guarantee without major investment we won't make top four next season. This was our big chance, especially without european football. Newcastle might even be in the race next year.


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Grow up mate.


Ok. Stop calling people delusional

Sorry, I didn't realise that offering an alternative to your opinion wasn't allowed.


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St James park is not the place you want to get when you are desperate for a win.


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DHD wrote:
All said and done - not good enough.

No excuses. Need better players.

Yep. We know we have deficiencies but this match confirms it. The ref has gius nothing but you havecto accept that and deal with it. The top teams keep the ref onside.

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We've had 2 shots on goal all night. :sad4:

On target you mean. And how many have they had?

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warrior wrote:
We've had 2 shots on goal all night. :sad4:


People already making excuses but that's a pathetic effort in a game of this magnitude.

Totally outfought and outplayed.


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Pépé falls over himself and asks for a foul. What a joke.

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Stand up lads. Did your best this year. Nobody could suggest otherwise.


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We've had 2 shots on goal all night. :sad4:

On target you mean. And how many have they had?


They must have had a few, apart from the goals I recall the Ramsdale save, one kicked off the line at least.


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Guarantee without major investment we won't make top four next season. This was our big chance, especially without european football. Newcastle might even be in the race next year.

Not sure why this is the case at all? It's far from guaranteed Man Utd and Tottenham will improve enough, and Chelsea are a mess at the moment.


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long time gooner wrote:
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We've had 2 shots on goal all night. :sad4:

On target you mean. And how many have they had?

4


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On target you mean. And how many have they had?


They must have had a few, apart from the goals I recall the Ramsdale save, one kicked off the line at least.

They had hardly any until we went for broke when 0-1 down.

And we had to score their opening goal for them.

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bromley gooner wrote:
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Ok. Stop calling people delusional

Sorry, I didn't realise that offering an alternative to your opinion wasn't allowed.


Jog on mate


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Ash wrote:
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Sorry, I didn't realise that offering an alternative to your opinion wasn't allowed.


Jog on mate

Ditto pal.


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Struggling with their press early on, need to keep our cool here. It won't be like this for 90 mins, important not to concede

It was: pressed us the whole game

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Post #472034  Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 9:06 pm 
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We don’t yet have a team equipped for the CL.


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Just play reserves in the europa league if it’s that much of a problem. Saka, Gabriel, Ben white and Ødegaard don’t touch it unless you reach a semi.


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Gutted though spud *%^@ will be celebrating at our expense.
Conte probably stays and now they have champions league money as well.
So galling
Horrific performance today.
We looked terrified and over whelmed.
Switched off with few minutes to go.
Can't bear to hear the likes of neville enjoying this.
We were playing for champions league ffs but never got started.
I said I'd take europa and thought champions league had gone when we lost to Brighton and spurs beat villa.
To claw it back with 4pts clear with 3 games to go and then lose it again is gut wrenching.
I just hope we will spend regardless to improve the squad and the first team
I feared this game for a while and so it's proved.


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Trying to blame Ben white for that goal is borderline retarded.


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Europa league is *%^@. We’ve now missed the change to buy the quality players we need to improve on a given day but also add the squad depth to deal with the additional matches. Man U will be stronger next year and possibly Totts too so further progress next year will be much harder than most are thinking.


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long time gooner wrote:
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They must have had a few, apart from the goals I recall the Ramsdale save, one kicked off the line at least.

They had hardly any until we went for broke when 0-1 down.

And we had to score their opening goal for them.


They dominated the game though and we never looked like scoring. They looked fitter, faster, hungrier.


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Another match where a manager totally out thought Arteta. This was a puerile performance where we never got into the game. Vierra, Potter, Conte and Howe have all done it recently.

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