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Post #536281  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:35 pm 
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Lokonga on. Partey has done his thigh.

Just a horror show

This game could kill our season.
Tierney likely out for the season
Tomiyasu still out
gabriel with a shocker
partey with a shocker and now injured
Ødegaard with a shocker and gives away a pen
poor passing, poor touches, mistakes all over the pitch


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Post #536282  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:36 pm 
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How on earth is that not a foul on Saka - Clyne is just on the floor and rugby tackles him down


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Post #536283  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:38 pm 
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That is a penalty that we would just not get - no doubt in my mind. How many times have Saka and Pépé been tripped like that?

Give it a rest. Ours was bot a penny their's was. We are getting exactly what we deserve.

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Post #536284  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:38 pm 
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Unbelievable. Even when the gk spills one we can;t smash it home as they scramble it off the line somehow - not our night. Smash it anywhere else and its a certain goal


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Post #536285  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:39 pm 
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Rich wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Lokonga on. Partey has done his thigh.

Just a horror show

This game could kill our season.
Tierney likely out for the season
Tomiyasu still out
gabriel with a shocker
partey with a shocker and now injured
Ødegaard with a shocker and gives away a pen
poor passing, poor touches, mistakes all over the pitch

That's what queries me. Might this be the game that ruins our season.

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Post #536286  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:40 pm 
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That is a penalty that we would just not get - no doubt in my mind. How many times have Saka and Pépé been tripped like that?

Give it a rest. Ours was bot a penny their's was. We are getting exactly what we deserve.

The push on Saka is a free kick that gets given anywhere else on the pitch. I know that a lot of refs duck out of those decisions not just for us - but it has to be a foul. He's nowhere near the ball and just pushes Saka over


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Post #536287  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:40 pm 
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Top 4 is going to be incredibly tough. We don't have the necessary squad depth.

Sad part is that if we were to lose top 4 because of a lack of squad depth, it's on the club. Huge gamble to thin the squad out in January the way we did.


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Post #536288  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:41 pm 
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If we can get Tomiyasu back for the next game then I think we play Cédric at left back. Everyone has been poor today but we need to keep as many of our best 11 in their best positions


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Post #536289  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:43 pm 
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Nketiah hits the bar - add that to the list of frustrations. The perfect storm for us tonight


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Post #536290  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:43 pm 
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bromley gooner wrote:
Top 4 is going to be incredibly tough. We don't have the necessary squad depth.


Such a shame. I’d have taken europa at the beginning of the season but as Champions league looked possible it suddenly seemed vital for this team to develop, to secure Saka’s future and bring in top quality we need, and the club to take the next step. Looks like a blow to that and will it just check the momentum the club is building?

This is classic young team btw. Young skilful player? Don’t play him intimidate him.


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Post #536291  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:44 pm 
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Spurs lost 3-0 away to Palace earlier in the season


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Post #536292  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:46 pm 
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Rich wrote:
Nketiah hits the bar - add that to the list of frustrations. The perfect storm for us tonight


Just missing a straight red off the bingo card :20hospitals:


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Post #536293  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:46 pm 
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I was hugely fearful about tonight. It just had the recipe for a really tough night and one we'd struggle with if we didn't start well.


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Post #536294  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:47 pm 
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Spurs lost 3-0 away to Palace earlier in the season

And they'll lose more games before the season is over. Everything feels really hopeless at the moment, but with a little bit of perspective we're obviously very much in the running for 4th place. Not as if our rivals for 4th are perfect teams in any way.


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Nketiah hits the bar - add that to the list of frustrations. The perfect storm for us tonight


Just missing a straight red off the bingo card :20hospitals:

There's still time....


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Post #536296  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:47 pm 
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Kanu time


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Post #536297  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:48 pm 
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Hazuki wrote:
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Spurs lost 3-0 away to Palace earlier in the season

And they'll lose more games before the season is over. Everything feels really hopeless at the moment, but with a little bit of perspective we're obviously very much in the running for 4th place. Not as if our rivals for 4th are perfect teams in any way.

Yep, perspective is key and we can;t have a complete meltdown. Our points per game since Conte took over is better than Spurs.

Put this down to a shocker and put it right v brighton and see if Spurs can beat Villa away as we did


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Post #536298  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:50 pm 
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Hazuki wrote:
Rich wrote:
Spurs lost 3-0 away to Palace earlier in the season

And they'll lose more games before the season is over. Everything feels really hopeless at the moment, but with a little bit of perspective we're obviously very much in the running for 4th place. Not as if our rivals for 4th are perfect teams in any way.


You’re right of course but it’s the absolutely, without exaggeration, threadbare squad that is giving me enormous pause.


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Post #536299  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:50 pm 
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Said last week I didn’t consider top 4 was in our hands at all as our squad is minuscule.

I haven’t changed that thought.

Games coming up missing Partey and Tierney. Our first 11 is great but back up of lokonga and Tavares is disaster for a club of our size. When we miss a key player it unbalances our whole side so players like Gabriel and partey are off balance trying to cover others.


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Post #536300  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:51 pm 
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It is strange to hear the comms say Palace have been largley untroubled. I get that we've mostly troubled them once we were 2-0 down, but on good chances I'd say the game is pretty level. Other than their 3 goals and a free kick they haven't tested Ramsdale. We've had 2 really poor misses from Emile Smith Rowe and Ødegaard and hit the bar from Nketiah.

Deservedly beaten but we've beaten ourselves with 3 poor mistakes (and poor finishing)
1) not defending a set piece
2) gabriel's attempt to cut out a pass he couldn't
3) giving away a pen


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On the basis of Bern’s assessment (with which I don’t disagree), that’s a point dropped.

Fair enough.

Manager of the Month eh? Who’d have guessed this result?


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Post #536302  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:53 pm 
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It feels like top 4 just left the building tonight.

I think this is possibly the worst performance of Arteta's reign.

No idea why he put Martinelli at right wingback.


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Post #536303  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:54 pm 
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Well that was shite

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Post #536304  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:55 pm 
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If we score 1st away from home I'm confident - it seems like it adds focus. If we conceded first I'm almost certain we'll lose apart from if we're maybe playing the worst 3 teams in the league. It seems to have been that way for a while


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Post #536305  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:56 pm 
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socrates wrote:
It feels like top 4 just left the building tonight.

I think this is possibly the worst performance of Arteta's reign.

Not by some distance. Pen aside we did pretty well in the second half contrast this to Brentford, city or Everton where we didn’t really play at all.


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socrates wrote:
It feels like top 4 just left the building tonight.

I think this is possibly the worst performance of Arteta's reign.

Close - but thinking back to some of those games at the start of last season - urgh. Burnley at home 1-0?


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Poor old Tavares, subbed twice at 45 mins, his confidence must be shot to pieces.


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Post #536308  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:59 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Said last week I didn’t consider top 4 was in our hands at all as our squad is minuscule.

I haven’t changed that thought.

Games coming up missing Partey and Tierney. Our first 11 is great but back up of lokonga and Tavares is disaster for a club of our size. When we miss a key player it unbalances our whole side so players like Gabriel and partey are off balance trying to cover others.

Mathematically it is still in our hands. Win all of our games and no other side can stop us.

It’s just that the winning bit is going to be somewhat tricky.

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Post #536309  Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:00 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
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It feels like top 4 just left the building tonight.

I think this is possibly the worst performance of Arteta's reign.

Not by some distance. Pen aside we did pretty well in the second half contrast this to Brentford, city or Everton where we didn’t really play at all.


In the context of what was at stake, and what was required tonight it feels like the worst to me.

Shades of the latter Wenger days when teams with a bit of physicality and desire could roll us over away from home.


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TOP GUN wrote:
Said last week I didn’t consider top 4 was in our hands at all as our squad is minuscule.

I haven’t changed that thought.

Games coming up missing Partey and Tierney. Our first 11 is great but back up of lokonga and Tavares is disaster for a club of our size. When we miss a key player it unbalances our whole side so players like Gabriel and partey are off balance trying to cover others.

Partey was terrible. His performance had nothing to do with Tavares. Vieira was very astute in putting Gallagher on him. Completely compromised ,our build-up play. The fact that Ødegaard had one of his worst ever games for us, didn't help.

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TOP GUN wrote:
Said last week I didn’t consider top 4 was in our hands at all as our squad is minuscule.

I haven’t changed that thought.

Games coming up missing Partey and Tierney. Our first 11 is great but back up of lokonga and Tavares is disaster for a club of our size. When we miss a key player it unbalances our whole side so players like Gabriel and partey are off balance trying to cover others.

Partey was terrible. His performance had nothing to do with Tavares. Vieira was very astute in putting Gallagher on him. Completely compromised ,our build-up play. The fact that Ødegaard had one of his worst ever games for us, didn't help.


Yeah sure about that ? I just find it a coincidence that when we have to bring in a player who probably isn’t good enough for the *%^@*** championship the other players like Gabriel and Partey have their worst games in ages whilst being superb recently.


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We weren’t kicked off the park tonight but we did fold under pressure. That’s a lesson from recent history.


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TOP GUN wrote:
Said last week I didn’t consider top 4 was in our hands at all as our squad is minuscule.

I haven’t changed that thought.

For someone who likes to accuse other Arsenal fans of wanting the team to lose, it's a bit rich of you to try and play the 'I told you so' card immediately after a pretty crushing defeat.


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When you look at the difference between our players and say City and Liverpools, yes they may be technically better but consistency is one of the key things.

The best players have occasional poor games but they tend to be 5 or 6 out of 10s not 2s and 3s like some of ours. In other words even on their worst days they tend not to stink up the place.

I thought White and Gabrielle were shite tonight, their defending was poor and their passing too slow and telegraphed. Partey was embarassing, Ødegaard was poor and the pen summed up his night.

Lacazette's limitations were very evident.

I actually thought Nketiah livened things up a bit.


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Lacazette should be dropped. He's terrible. Nketiah is not top 4 level but he's worth a run ahead of Lacazette. At least he can score. If not, maybe Emile Smith Rowe as the false 9. Lacazette is effectively playing as a false 9 as it is.

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TOP GUN wrote:
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Partey was terrible. His performance had nothing to do with Tavares. Vieira was very astute in putting Gallagher on him. Completely compromised ,our build-up play. The fact that Ødegaard had one of his worst ever games for us, didn't help.


Yeah sure about that ? I just find it a coincidence that when we have to bring in a player who probably isn’t good enough for the *%^@*** championship the other players like Gabriel and Partey have their worst games in ages whilst being superb recently.

Partey was equally useless after Tavares went off. He has been very good of late, but that display was a shocker. He kept giving the ball away.

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Hazuki wrote:
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Said last week I didn’t consider top 4 was in our hands at all as our squad is minuscule.

I haven’t changed that thought.

For someone who likes to accuse other Arsenal fans of wanting the team to lose, it's a bit rich of you to try and play the 'I told you so' card immediately after a pretty crushing defeat.

Well I did tell you.

Also pointing out the obvious isn’t the same as the circle jerk some gleefully embark on to dig our manager out.


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dec wrote:
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Yeah sure about that ? I just find it a coincidence that when we have to bring in a player who probably isn’t good enough for the *%^@*** championship the other players like Gabriel and Partey have their worst games in ages whilst being superb recently.

Partey was equally useless after Tavares went off. He has been very good of late, but that display was a shocker. He kept giving the ball away.

It was already lost really the passing gets more and more desperate as the minutes clock down.


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I would love to see our record in Monday night games over the past 5 years. I'd also love to see the proportion of Monday night games where we play away rather than at home. I positively hate monday evening games

Sky get to choose the games and they have to give a certain amount of games to each side so they can't just always show City and Liverpool but you'd have to think whoever is picking the games thinks lets put Arsenal away at these midtable sides because there is a chance of an upset and that's great for ratings......and they'd be proven right!


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Well I did tell you.

Yes congratulations, we lost a game.

Not sure why you're even commenting on the game, you've made it perfectly clear football can't be analyzed unless you're drunk in the stadium


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