Good stuff, omoh. They've got a new fan...belatedly, but a fan nonetheless.

Imo and from what I've read the virus is no longer a danger once you've had it, similar to measles etc etc. so what's the problem.

Once the antibodies test is carried out then hopefully they will see sense and allow games to return to normal with a proviso that only fans that can provide a certificate to show that they have been tested can enter grounds. Same applies to players no doubt?

Imo and from what I've read the virus is no longer a danger once you've had it, similar to measles etc etc. so what's the problem. Those who haven't had it can continue self isolating or take the chance and make themselves accessible to the virus in a controlled environment.

From this point on everything can go back to normal can it not?

Fast forward nearly half a century for the mature performer. Still got it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSn2Y-b6wI

Like all of you are thinking, I am also thinking "It must be Mustafi? No?"
https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... s-18249992
Mikel Arteta already has the perfect partner for William Saliba at Arsenal

I hope Mustafi gets a 10 year contract and is made club captain.

Winwood is obviously a famous name I'm familiar with as a solo artist and his connection to Clapton at one time. Had no idea about the connection to the Spencer Davis Group or the group itself. Thanks.

Winwood is obviously a famous name I'm familiar with as a solo artist and his connection to Clapton at one time. Had no idea about the connection to the Spencer Davis Group or the group itself. Thanks.

Say the season starts behind closed doors and then a vaccine is available in January, for example. Does the season continue with no crowds allowed even though it would then be deemed safe for stadia to be full again? There is no chance of that happening.

The season, that was planned must be just about over now. (mid May) Its over - full stop. It is void and I personally will not recognise anything from this season other than Man City won the League Cup.

If Liverpool somehow end up with the title, I will be making it clear to any of their fans that they did not earn or deserve it.

Fair - *%^@ fair - its football. I will recognise it if the FA recognise there was a handball in one of those cups we lost (was it Liverpool probably 20 years ago) and reverse the result and award it to us. They can also reverse the decision where Socrates scored and it was chalked off because of a supposed foul by Chalmers against Crystal Palace. Fair, fair - *%^@ me.

Are you seriously saying you don’t see banning fans from games partway through the season, regardless of whether games are played at neutral venues or each team’s own stadium, as a highly significant rule change? I do, because it inevitably makes the season uneven.

Sides play two games against each other, one at home and one away. Home advantage is normally a significant benefit because the big majority of the crowd will be supporting them. So teams will play opponents with one enjoying the advantage of playing opponents while enjoying the support of the home crowd. But inevitably return games from now will take place with the other team not enjoying that benefit in their home game. That strikes me as unfair, particularly when sides are in direct opposition (see my previous West Ham/Aston Villa example, though numerous others will apply just as equally).

I see null and voiding the season as more a question of bringing good or bad luck into the equation. Very bad luck on Liverpool and extremely fortunate for Norwich (perhaps the two most obvious Premier League examples). But I think good or bad luck is preferable to unfairness. You appear to disagree. Fair enough. I’ve no doubt you’ll consider your viewpoint as the right one, as I will do with my argument.

I also don’t think ghoulish is the right word to use for laughing at Liverpool’s misfortune, if it happens. I’ve heard some of their fans talk of the club’s thirty years without a league title as not just a disaster for English football but a national tragedy. Arsenal supporting fans I know from the north know of such claims too. That’s why I perceive Liverpool supporters as the most ‘up their own arse’ fans in the country.

That’s also why I am happy to use the expression ‘laugh my head off’ to describe my reaction to them not winning the title from the season being voided (obviously my head won’t literally fall off). I don’t see that reaction as ghoulish. If their fans lose the chance to celebrate a title win at home, my reaction will be tough luck rather than seeing them as so deprived of the excuse to celebrate or the club not being able to add the 2020 Premier League to their honours list. Big bloody deal. I can think of circumstances way more relevant to the words ghoulish and deprived. Hence my perception of you stretching things.

You don't address my point.

My point is that, regardless of whether a not having fans is a rule change (as far as I can tell it is not), not playing the full season IS a rule change. Extending the league beyond may, or starting in any month other than august, would also be a rule change.

And I disagree with your definition of luck. Luck refers to something that is out of anyones hand's. Like which balls come up in the lotto, or whether a deflected shot flies into a goal, or whether an opponent is fighting hard against relegation or is just cruising along.

Deciding on what to do with the rest of the season is not in the hands of fate.

Not great news here about a fine player

https://apple.news/AUPTnvNEMSBim5O4_PSqypw

Not great news here about a fine player

https://apple.news/AUPTnvNEMSBim5O4_PSqypw

...I knew the least about Jeff Lynne, although I'm well aware of ELO by reputation. Looked up the bio of Lynne, didn't know he was a Brummie as well. Seems like that city has a rich musical CV.

Yes very rich - The Moody Blues for instance.

Blind Faith group had Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker (deceased) and Ric Grech (deceased).

I used to blast the Moody Blues back in college on a huge stereo I had.
My neighbours liked it too. They hurled a brick threw my window just so they could hear it better.

I had no idea prior that Clatpon and Winwood were in the same group. I've only really known Winwood as a solo singer. Clapton I'm aware was in a group before. I associate him with the Yardbirds and Cream though.

Nice one. I think I wanted to be Justin Hayward way back then - handsome, sensitive and talented. Afraid to say I was not even on the threshold of that dream.

AG I highly recommend you dig into Winwood's years in the band Traffic. This is a later version of the band in 1994, but earlier formations from late 60s on were great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doXXcTNUx8o

Nights in White Satin and Forever Autumn from War of the Worlds must be two of the most haunting, beautiful and powerfully evocative songs ever written.

My (much) older sister played a lot of music from the late '60s and early to mid '70s while she was babysitting me and my younger siblings. This reminds me of those songs she had and played.

Nights in White Satin and Forever Autumn from War of the Worlds must be two of the most haunting, beautiful and powerfully evocative songs ever written.

Within the first 2 minutes Clough refers to himself as special. Seems Mourinho owes him copyrights.
Interesting interview. Wouldn't happen these days.