Welcome to the forum. Are you taking the piss?

Norm for most Arsenal supporters nowadays. Talk up the opposition and slag off our players.

Happier times ahead.

We wreck Spurs away record and draw at Man City.

Yeah yeah, wake me up when it's all over

Your beloved Lilly whites time at the top will be shorter than leprechauns mate. Head back to simb

Welcome. New or long time lurker and decided to get your to.e wet? Hehe

Club success run in cycles. Man Utd went from '68 - '92 without a title but were the biggest club. Liverpool, the 2nd biggest club has had no titles and mixed success since '90.

If these are the dark days them we are not too bad off. I'm as frustrated as any Gooner but I think when Wenger is gone it's a chance to improve despite being owned by an owner who doesn't know the sport or appreciate the history of the club.

We will be back. One day. And Tottenham will go back to their rightful place below us.

Didn't Fabregas get about 57 goals.

You're right. The handbook says Fabregas scored 57 goals for Arsenal.

Wikpedea says 212 apps & 35 goals. Not that Wikipedia is the font of all knowledge but they are big differences in numbers

Wikipedia, in their summary slot, only give league goals. Go down to their career statistics slot and it gives totals of 57 goals in 303 appearances for Arsenal.

Cesc the legend.

Arsenal legends don't refuse to turn out for the club in case an injury stops them getting a transfer to the club they really love.

Bromley if there was a 'like' button on the forum as there is on Facebook and Twitter, I'd have pressed it for that reply.

How anyone in their right mind can consider him a legend while he plays for another team is beyond me too. after he retires I might remember the good times but as it stands he is not a legend to me just a player who played well in some games but not in all.

The fool has got it wrong again................

Fair enough. I was just copying a stat I saw without checking it first!

AG's legend gives the ball away for Roma's third goal. Can Chelsea come back from another Roma defeat.................

They are as good as qualifiwd. Atletico have been abysmal in this group.

Thanks. I had not realised that. Fab played a lot of games for us. Not my favourite player of all time but I always liked his snide little ways. It often puts opponents on edge & makes the opposing fans hate you. Great theatre. If he had stayed with us he would have still been waiting for a championship medal. He did the right thing for himself. Would have bought him back when he was available. Still that is all history.

Chelsea have been incredibly lucky that athletico haven’t turned up at all. Chelsea were bang average in both legs v Roma and looked a total mess at the back tonight. There was one moment when 3 defenders all chased the same man who just stopped and laid it square to a completely free man 12 yards out - who skied it

My guess is that Wenger will send a token force out on Thursday. City is a huge game obviously. Wenger will want his best players as fresh as possible.
If we send out the kids against Belgrade, I'm hoping they'll recreate some magic.

Ox gets a start against the mighty Maribor. Hope he does well, he deserves to, but we all know it won't last lol.

Surprisingly Spurs risk Kane. Crazy playing him but I hope he runs his socks off and sets his recovery back even more.

Spurs lead 1-0 from a goal that is a long way offside, 2 yards probably, right in front of the lino, alderweireld has done his hamstring


Napoli also lead Man City. Napoli are a fine team! Sure to be some of the big teams sniffing round their players. Thought I read that Mertens has a £25m release clause

That offside was really bad. The 18 yard line was between Tripper and the Madrid defender. Very poor from the lino.

Trust our luck to be out the champions league just as Real, Barcelona and Bayern look as beatable as they have in years. I felt sick when Chelsea won the champions league, I'll go into hiding if Spurs win it.

Those 3 look beatable......but not by us. I think there are another 7-8 teams who we'd struggle to beat over 2 legs as well. Probably all 4 english teams, roma, napoli, juve, psg......

Madrid have been really poor this season so far. I wouldn't count them out though. Barca are less spectacular than previously but win most of their games. Bayern will likely improve and PSG look superb. I wouldn't be worrying about the Spuds just yet.

Dortmund, Napoli and Athleico Madrid all looking pretty certain to drop in to the Europa League.
No such luck on the easy teams and route Man U had last year

City look like they are ready to make a serious go of winning the champions league this year.
Pep has improved so many of the team, Stones, otamendi, sterling, sane all hugely better than last year.
The new gk looks like a position solved. De bruyn is possibly in the top 5 in Europe at the moment and we haven’t even mentioned the strikers yet.
4-2 away at Napoli is a great result. I fear for us at the weekend

I expect Wenger to field the squaddies against Red Star. We have a fully rested first 11 to face Man City. No excuses not to get at least a draw.

They are excellent going forward but still weak at the back. The keeper is definitely an improvement. I'm not sure Stones and Otamendi are any better than last season. DeBruyne is flying while Sane and Jesus are brilliant young footballers. Still beatable though.

I’d agree that their defence is still vulnerable, the question for me is does wenger have the tactical nous to nullify their attack AND cause them problems on the counter attack?

The Arsenal is always good for at least one big result each season. Beating the champions in the league and cup final last season for example. If we managed to win Sunday, a tall order, would it change anything? Would it ignite us and change our season and we go on a run? I'm not confident it will. I hope win and would be happy if we win or even get a result but in the larger context of things there are endemic issues. The biggest being the manager.

Surprising how far Chelsea have fallen this season. They are a decent side. No question but compared to last season its surprising how badly they are playing. The debacle in Rome being the most recent of a few bad matches.

Right now a successful season looks like being in 5th and having a shout at top 4. Maybe a cup semi or final in Europe.

It won't be a surprise if Sanchez leaves. Özil as well. Replacing them may not be successful. We may have to get used to an Arsenal side that hovers around 5th or 6th at best for a couple seasons at least.

This isn't a fun time to be a Gooner in a city with Tottenham supporters today. Work could be unbearable for some of you.

No excuses? Have you watched us play this season?

Not as unbearable as having to read your drivel.

Sterling has been excellent. I’m not surprised Pep didn’t want to swap him for Sanchez as was suggested in the summer.

That made me laugh. We have a very ordinary team. City have far better midfielders and forwards. If they play like they have been all season, they will probably trounce us. It could be another 4 or 5 goal drubbing away from home.

Tonight at the Ems.

Our away form is horrible but the Everton win should boost confidence somewhat that we can get something out of the Man City game. I'm hoping freshness vs fatigue will be a factor in our favour.

54Macey
2Debuchy
35El Neny
16Holding
61Nelson
34Coquelin
69Willock
30Maitland-Niles
14Walcott
10Wilshere
12Giroud
Substitutes
3Osei-Tutu
32Akpom
33Cech
43Da Silva
58McGuane
62Nketiah
65Sheaf

come on you reds

To be fair Goonie, you are very positive about this team and you don't moan about them much at all. I have no faith in them because I don't think they are much good. City are much better and while anything can happen on the day, the likely result is another comprehensive defeat away to a top 6 side.

Wilshere is running freely and well. Time to test him for a longer playing period in the EPL?