*%^@*** hell here we go

Nearly a second red. Got lucky.

And now Aubameyang has now scored - for them.

Truly awful.

I think we can call this a full blown crisis now. And how is Elneny still on the pitch?

I think that the ref took pity on us.

Definitely in crisis now.

Burnley 2 shots before Xhaka red, 8 shots after. Lay this one 100% squarely at his door.

The only thing that saves us now is a cash injection from the owner, the players we have are not cut out for a relegation fight - they do not have the bottle for it

Nailed it.

How on earth can you lose to this lot. They are shocking.

We won’t beat saints like this who always get the ball down and play and then your at goodison.

I think Arteta could be done. What a *%^@*** mess

So are we. And have been for some time. Dreadful mess. One of the worst ever Arsenal squads that I have ever seen.

And if Arteta doesn’t bawl out Xhaka afterwards then he loses all respect.

Who would want to pick up this dross - what would a manager do with this lot. They have nothing

To add to all our current woes, we’re just not getting any lucky breaks either.

We’re making our own luck.

6 reds under Arteta
2 for Luiz both for pulling back a striker clear on goal
1 for Aubameyang for a reckless tackle
1 for Nketiah for a reckless tackle
1 for Pépé for a headbutt
1 for Xhaka for a throat grab

Where is the discipline?

That should be it for Xhaka and Arteta, good riddance

It almost makes you nostalgic for the halcyon days under Emery

Never thought I'd be nostalgic for the days of Eboue, Denilson, Bendtner...

Let's look on the bright side - at least Aubameyang is up and running again.

These players are not ready to fight for our survival. Every other team in the league has some fight about them.

Southampton are going to play us off the pitch midweek.

Would playing players from the Europa league team make a difference? Willock came in after playing well in the EL and wasn't able to make a difference, Elneny didn't make any difference tonight.

Until we can ship out the players who have been underperforming for the last few years there won't be much change.

The only positive is that the signings Edu and Arteta have made mostly look good.

A magnificent win for Arsenal. Wasn't even close.

Oh wait, that's in a Trump universe...

Xhaka should be docked as many weeks wages as possible and transfer listed.

Well it is pantomime season

Yes I agree unfortunately

Fast tracking a load of unproven youngsters into games we must win isn’t the answer. These players have already had a lot of minutes off the bench and havent shown much in the league at all. It would feel good to do it but it won’t change our results (AMN aside)

I’ll actually revise my post from earlier saying that was 100% Xhaka’s fault. Arteta is massively at fault for picking such a let down of a player. They are both idiotic. Why is any manager still putting their faith in Xhaka? We actually started the second half ok.

Arteta is probably gone. If you’re not picking up wins vs Burnley at home where are your wins coming from?

For 2 seasons in a row at xmas we have our own fans genuinely worried that we’re in a relegation fight.

The whole thing somehow needs ripping up and starting from scratch.

What is going to make Kronke care? Would the threat of relegation make him care and do something about it?

Absolute *%^@*** liability Xhaka is and Arteta keeps selecting him.
Can he not *%^@*** see what we see!!
Had a chance to cash in on Xhaka in January and Arteta decided to keep him.
Ridiculous decision.
What a joke we have become
Turgid.
Predictable.
Toothless.

Broken his goal drought.

I don't see there being any benefit in sacking Arteta. When you sign a manager that young you know it's going to be challenging early on, especially with the squad Arsenal have.

If you were to look for someone else it's not going to be Pochettino or Allegri. Any big manager won't touch Arsenal in the current position.

evra revealing what Thierry thinks about Xhaka in a private conversation

Sure T will be pleased with that

Hey ho, another day another defeat.

On the bright side, I reckon we've got enough to stay up though.

Great finish too.

I agree 100% but it won’t change anything. Lose the next 2 and he’s in real trouble.

Arteta needs the help of the board to strip this squad to its bones and replace the non performers. You need a massive turnover of players to get this turned around

The problem is the young players get a game or two max, not always in their natural position, Willock isn’t a No.10. If they fail to do anything they’re out the team, no chance to build up any rhythm. More senior players fail and stay in the team. I can tell you for certain Willock would not have got himself sent off as Xhaka did tonight.

In the aftermath of Covid that's easier said than done. Average players on sky high salaries is a recipe for disaster in the current climate.

Every week that goes by I’m including more and more players in the list that we need to get out of this club. Plenty don’t have the quality but more are showing they don’t have the stomach for the fight.
How do you plug all the leaks in the sinking ship?

Even Fulham showed commendable fight in their last two games. They took 4 points off Leicester and Liverpool.

We are a horror show right now and I have no idea how the club is going to fix it. No one is going to touch us with a barge pole right now

Lacazette is a goal scorer. He doesn’t have the creativity or talent to play the No. 10 role. Arteta has given him a role he’s wholly unsuited for. I’m not a big Lacazette fan, but isn’t that the manager’s fault more than his? We’d all be moaning about Arteta if he played Willian in goal instead of Leno, after all.

I agree and don’t think it’s easy at all but we have to find away, we need to be ruthless now. This lot won’t do it even for a new manager. There is no room for sentiment

Xhaka has got 3 managers sacked now if Arteta goes. (Which I believe is a foregone conclusion)

That's a fair point. We have quite a few big earners coming off contract this summer (Özil, Mustafi, Sokratis etc). That could free up $500k+ a week on wages. If, and it's a big if, Arsenal can use that money to sign 2/3 Gabriel/Thomas level players we could see a big change in results.

Surely KFC will be under serious pressure to do something. Either get a manager in who can stop Arsenal’s tailspin or sign proven quality this window (a midfielder). At the end of the day they will want to protect their ‘investment’. As for Xhaka surely it’s over for him. But at least we get to see a different midfield without him for 3 games.

That's a fair point. We have quite a few big earners coming off contract this summer (Özil, Mustafi, Sokratis etc). That could free up $500k+ a week on wages. If, and it's a big if, Arsenal can use that money to sign 2/3 Gabriel/Thomas level players we could see a big change in results.

Agree totally, he' never a no 10.