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Post #469521  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:13 pm 
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If you disagree with this you are clueless .

Literally anyone who disagrees with you about anything gets this line. Even LTG who clearly isn't clueless and deserves respect.

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Post #469522  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:13 pm 
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From my point of view simply substituting the word empathy for commitment and compassion changes nothing.

Just because I haven’t been able to get to recent games does not diminish my empathy one jot.

There are some rubbish ‘supporters’ online. There are also some rubbish ‘supporters’ at games - I’ve seen them. Calling people saddos is quite abhorrent really and unduly ‘superior’, especially our forumites.


I don’t really care to be honest. It’s hardly abhorrent at all and I’m not talking about you because you can attend fewer games these days or even anyone here in particular however if you are butthurt about something like this and want to make it all about yourself you need to take a look inside.

This is my following point I said clarifying my feeling on this …

You have many reasons why fans can’t attend matches including finances and geography. I have friends on the other side of the world who are die hard Arsenal fans but the truth is the understanding, empathy and forgiveness built from spending a fortune travelling home and away watching a young group of men develop together doesn’t really exist as much if you aren’t doing that hence you read some disproportionate absurd things that don’t correlate to the feeling at Arsenal every week.

If you disagree with this you are clueless really. This shouldn’t be offensive to anyone and if you are offended then you are a total saddo. Congrats.

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Post #469523  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:19 pm 
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When have I slagged Ramsdale off? I don't even do instagram or whatever.


You haven’t and I never said you have. You are making it all about yourself.

Do you even read your own posts?

You said, to me,
"Then don’t slag him off forcing him off instagram or whatever because he joined the club. Our match going fans are right behind him."

Then "If you struggle with this it frankly says more about you than anything else."

How the &(%^ am I supposed to read that? Is the first sentence general, and the second directed to me (or is the 'you' meant to be impersonal there too)?

If you are not accusing me of this, what exactly are you accusing me of, apart from not agreeing with you?

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Post #469524  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:23 pm 
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Decaf wrote:
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You haven’t and I never said you have. You are making it all about yourself.

Do you even read your own posts?

You said, to me,
"Then don’t slag him off forcing him off instagram or whatever because he joined the club. Our match going fans are right behind him."

Then "If you struggle with this it frankly says more about you than anything else."

How the &(%^ am I supposed to read that? Is the first sentence general, and the second directed to me (or is the 'you' meant to be impersonal there too)?

If you are not accusing me of this, what exactly are you accusing me of, apart from not agreeing with you?

Not at any time has this conversation been about any people on this forum. It’s about the general behaviour of our fans as a whole not individuals here.

Ramsdale left instagram or whatever because of our fans. Not you. You are making it all about yourself. It isn’t.


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Post #469525  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:28 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
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From my point of view simply substituting the word empathy for commitment and compassion changes nothing.

Just because I haven’t been able to get to recent games does not diminish my empathy one jot.

There are some rubbish ‘supporters’ online. There are also some rubbish ‘supporters’ at games - I’ve seen them. Calling people saddos is quite abhorrent really and unduly ‘superior’, especially our forumites.


I don’t really care to be honest. It’s hardly abhorrent at all and I’m not talking about you because you can attend fewer games these days or even anyone here in particular however if you are butthurt about something like this and want to make it all about yourself you need to take a look inside.

This is my following point I said clarifying my feeling on this …

You have many reasons why fans can’t attend matches including finances and geography. I have friends on the other side of the world who are die hard Arsenal fans but the truth is the understanding, empathy and forgiveness built from spending a fortune travelling home and away watching a young group of men develop together doesn’t really exist as much if you aren’t doing that hence you read some disproportionate absurd things that don’t correlate to the feeling at Arsenal every week.

If you disagree with this you are clueless really. This shouldn’t be offensive to anyone and if you are offended then you are a total saddo. Congrats.

Oh and the only person who coming across as 'upset' and (particularly) "butthurt" in this discussion is you.

Its funny you say "This shouldn’t be offensive to anyone" in between "clueless" and "total saddo".

Read your own posts before you hit submit.

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Post #469526  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:33 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
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Do you even read your own posts?

You said, to me,
"Then don’t slag him off forcing him off instagram or whatever because he joined the club. Our match going fans are right behind him."

Then "If you struggle with this it frankly says more about you than anything else."

How the &(%^ am I supposed to read that? Is the first sentence general, and the second directed to me (or is the 'you' meant to be impersonal there too)?

If you are not accusing me of this, what exactly are you accusing me of, apart from not agreeing with you?

Not at any time has this conversation been about any people on this forum. It’s about the general behaviour of our fans as a whole not individuals here.

Ramsdale left instagram or whatever because of our fans. Not you. You are making it all about yourself. It isn’t.

Not only are you not reading your own posts, you are clearly not reading anyone else's either.
Please clarify which of the insults and you are throwing around are directed at me, and which are general points.
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Post #469527  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:43 pm 
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Conte: “They are used to it here. They don't play for something important. They don't want to play under pressure, under stress.

“Tottenham story is this for 20 years. There is the owner but they never won something. Why?"


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Post #469528  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:44 pm 
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Saliba injured for a month or so. Serious

We now need to play holding for some time as Tommy is injured too so you can’t move White central

This is how it starts

In truth we should win our next two games with or without Saliba and there is a two week international break in there so hopefully the damage is limited.


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Rich wrote:
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Saliba injured for a month or so. Serious

We now need to play holding for some time as Tommy is injured too so you can’t move White central

This is how it starts

In truth we should win our next two games with or without Saliba and there is a two week international break in there so hopefully the damage is limited.

If he’s missing for longer it’s a major problem. So much so I reckon arteta could change the formation for the 2 games at anfield and city to incorporate 3 centre backs


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Post #469530  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:12 pm 
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Just watched Conte’s rant in full. All said without any idea of how ironic it is him talking about commitment and attitude.
Conte has thrown god knows how many strips and threats to leave in his time there, he’s basically had one foot out the door as soon as he got there.

If he was the manager of my team I’d want him sacked immediately after what he said today. How can any of the players want to work for this guy.


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Post #469531  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:15 pm 
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Rich wrote:
Just watched Conte’s rant in full. All said without any idea of how ironic it is him talking about commitment and attitude.
Conte has thrown god knows how many strips and threats to leave in his time there, he’s basically had one foot out the door as soon as he got there.

If he was the manager of my team I’d want him sacked immediately after what he said today. How can any of the players want to work for this guy.

He was literally saying “sack me” in code


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Congratulations Ireland. Deserved today.

Not sure you’re better than France but you’re better than us.


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Post #469533  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:21 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Rich wrote:
Just watched Conte’s rant in full. All said without any idea of how ironic it is him talking about commitment and attitude.
Conte has thrown god knows how many strips and threats to leave in his time there, he’s basically had one foot out the door as soon as he got there.

If he was the manager of my team I’d want him sacked immediately after what he said today. How can any of the players want to work for this guy.

He was literally saying “sack me” in code

And not a code that was hard to decipher


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Post #469534  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:27 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Rich wrote:
In truth we should win our next two games with or without Saliba and there is a two week international break in there so hopefully the damage is limited.

If he’s missing for longer it’s a major problem. So much so I reckon arteta could change the formation for the 2 games at anfield and city to incorporate 3 centre backs

There are slightly different reports of Saliba’s injury in the English and French press. Im hopeful it isn’t that bad and Arteta is using an opportunity to make sure he doesn’t play in the international break.

Holding will probably come in tomorrow. For some reason you rarely see two left footed CB play together - or people feel nervous about it but there are plenty of right foot pairings around.

Could see someone like Ruell Walters on the bench tomorrow. Has played CB and RB.

One to watch is White against Zaha tomorrow, the winger who has given white the biggest problem this year is Rashford, Zaha isn’t on his level but is a similar type of player, fast, direct, good dribbler and also tall and physical


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Another good time had by all on here again. Must've been one wild St. Pat's Day hangover.
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As to Conte's post match comments...if having to see this face at every game no matter the opponent, it wouldn't be hard to throw the club under the bus. Needless to say, such a face was an advantage for AMN and Theo!
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As to Conte's post match comments...if having to see this face at every game no matter the opponent, it wouldn't be hard to throw the club under the bus.
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Post #469538  Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:25 pm 
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So it’s not only Donald Trump and Boris Johnson who post without thinking and then totally deny they made the comment. Sorry I’m not a fan who goes to every game so I am not worthy.

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Vieira sacked on St. Patrick's day. Ironic.

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Vieira sacked on St. Patrick's day. Ironic.

I was never really a fan of him.


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Vieira sacked on St. Patrick's day. Ironic.

I was never really a fan of him.

Viera or St Patrick?

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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I was never really a fan of him.

Viera or St Patrick?

Both really. I've never been to any of their games.


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Viera or St Patrick?

Both really. I've never been to any of their games.

I don't know why: board the flight on Wednesday Saturday game and home by Tuesday. I suggest business class

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I don't know why: board the flight on Wednesday Saturday game and home by Tuesday. I suggest business class

Do they serve Guinness though ?


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Must be such a sad day to see a 2 goal lead disappear in the last 15 minutes :58big-emoticons:
And then to hear their manager spew such vile towards his players, club and everyone connected to the club
It must be terrible being a Spurs fan right now :42laughter:

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warrior wrote:
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I don't know why: board the flight on Wednesday Saturday game and home by Tuesday. I suggest business class

Do they serve Guinness though ?

Ah, the problem is clear now. I’ve never been to the Emirates only Highbury. Still I look back and am grateful for that and all the other travel my wife and I did particularly when younger.

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Must be such a sad day to see a 2 goal lead disappear in the last 15 minutes :58big-emoticons:
And then to hear their manager spew such vile towards his players, club and everyone connected to the club
It must be terrible being a Spurs fan right now :42laughter:

Well there were tears in my eyes but it was because I was laughing so much. Been there with our boys before and it can happen but the manager is pushing for his payout. I am torn as to who I want to go down.

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Must win game today but I take nothing for granted in this league and we've struggled to break down teams employing a low block whilst at the same time been vulnerable to those with pacy counter-attacks.

With Saliba and Tomiyasu out I'm guessing Holding will come in. Just hope we aren't without a couple of others after 120 mins on Thursday.


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Post #469549  Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:42 am 
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Saw someone say on the Conte situation, is this a case of the dressing room losing the manager rather than manager losing the dressing room?

Either way it is hilarious. All so predictable. See many say you don’t hire Conte if you don’t back him in the market, firstly he’s had £220m, and secondly how can you position yourself as an elite manager if the only way you work is to get bundles of money and basically just rely on having the best players? Coaching? Tactics? Improving players? Bringing through youth? Long term vision and philosophy?

Just like Mourinho at spurs and at Man U you could have predicted exactly what would happen with Conte at Spurs


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If holding comes in I wonder whether we might just drop the back line 5 yards deeper to account for his lack of pace?


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Post #469551  Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 9:18 am 
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If we take our first 11 how many players outside this can come in and we see no real drop off in quality?
Trossard definitely
Tomiyasu on form
Tierney if we play to his strengths
Nketiah can do ok
Hopefully Smith-Rowe but we’ve not seen him in this years Arsenal

Lacking in central mid and centre back areas


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So what happened to Dele Alli? I recall him being very good for Sperz. I didn't follow him after all that, I recall a drop in form and now I'm reading he's banished to watch from the stands at Besiktas. He's only 26.
Yes, bit of a head scratcher that one. He seemed to have it all to be a top player. Perhaps he made his money and isn't truly in love with the game enough to be bothered? Some good managers have tried to rescue his career and failed. Maybe he needs the supporting arm around the shoulder of Conte...

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Is our game not on British TV again today??


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https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... ore-target


“The reason behind the decision is because the fixture was originally scheduled to take place on Saturday, March 18 but was shifted back a day due to the club's commitments in the Europa League.

The fixture was meant to be under the UK blackout of 3pm kick-offs in the Premier League and the rule will apply due to its original date.”

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Stroll today. Chance to claw back some goal difference.


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Stroll today. Chance to claw back some goal difference.
Tempt fate don't. Didn't you predict a stroll against Sporting? Someone did!

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Stroll today. Chance to claw back some goal difference.
Tempt fate don't. Didn't you predict a stroll against Sporting? Someone did!

I did. But it doesn’t mean I’m wrong about this one hoy :58big-emoticons:


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Ash wrote:
https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/arsenal-vs-crystal-palace-isnt-26500072?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target


“The reason behind the decision is because the fixture was originally scheduled to take place on Saturday, March 18 but was shifted back a day due to the club's commitments in the Europa League.

The fixture was meant to be under the UK blackout of 3pm kick-offs in the Premier League and the rule will apply due to its original date.”

Ffs

Quite a few of our games haven’t been on tv recently, I read a theory that teams can only feature on tv a certain or maximum number of times and the tv companies want to make sure we’re on a lot in the run in so aren’t putting us on now


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Only 3 clean sheets in our last 18 at home. In huge contrast to our away form. It’s enough of a sample that you’d hope someone is looking hard at this. Are we too gung ho at home?


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Anderson injured in the warm up for Palace, Tomkins comes in. Anderson has played well against us before with his accurate long diagonals


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