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Post #384281  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:16 am 
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Post #384282  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:19 am 
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Until you are found guilty in a court of law you are innocent. The only wierdos are people who think an accusation should be sufficient to end a career.

I didn’t say I think it should end a career I just find it a bit weird celebrating a sexual assault case falling apart because a witness bailed.


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Post #384283  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:01 am 
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It's a bit more than an accusation gunny, I assume you've seen the pictures and heard the recording?

Plus, he's not been found innocent in a court of law, it seems there was just not enough reliable evidence to proceed after key witnesses withdrew their statements or refused to cooperate.

If I was being cynical I'd suggest witnesses were encouraged to withdraw their testimony and the case collapsed. I hope that this isn't so because this has done nothing to encourage other women to come forward and the lady in question should be ashamed if it did happen and she has withdrawn here accusations to allow him to go free. She should be charged with perverting the course of justice.

Rumours abound that he's back together with his accuser. Missing the affluent lifestyle?

No idea what United do now, they are stuck between a rock and a hardplace. Whatever they do will be seen as wrong and alienate a section of their fans.

Back and playing he's a £50m+ asset and legally he's an innocent man but morally I would suggest it would be very difficult to have him play for United again.


Recordings and pictures are not evidence. Are you someone who believes everything on the internet? I don't. I believe unless it is tested in a court of law it is hearsay. Maybe there was a different context to the recording and the pictures. I have witnessed someone accusing a man of battery and it transpired she used her make up to make her face look bruised. I am not saying it happened here but it has left me cynical. Essentially the legal situation is in England Wales is someone can make an accusation and the defendant's name is over the papers. I can't but think of Ched Evans and his truncated career which was the subject of vitriol from people who think any accusation of sexual violence should be enough to cast you into the outer darkness for ever.

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Post #384284  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:03 am 
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Until you are found guilty in a court of law you are innocent. The only wierdos are people who think an accusation should be sufficient to end a career.

I didn’t say I think it should end a career I just find it a bit weird celebrating a sexual assault case falling apart because a witness bailed.


I am certainly not celebrating it. There are no winners in this case and there is no good outcome.

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Post #384285  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:38 am 
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Interesting to note martinellis new contract gives him 200k a week. They aren’t stupid then.

Wonder what saka is getting offered

I read £180k but what is £20k a week between friends. 4.5 year deal until summer 2027 with a club option of a further year.

Saka will surely be offered that as a minimum, but I'd be happy to make him our top earner at £250k per week and get him on a long term contract. If you tied Saka down to a 6 year deal then his transfer value would be £150m minimum in the current market.

Then we need to get Saliba sorted. I also heard that Arsenal are looking at getting Xhaka on a new deal as well. Here here!


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Post #384286  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:40 am 
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Partey is a slight doubt for the weekend. Could we see an earlier than expected debut for Jorginho?


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Post #384287  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:00 am 
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putting aside the game where we play Man City on feb 15th Arsenal play our next 4 league games before City play theirs, it is a great opportunity to put them under pressure.


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Post #384288  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:09 am 
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Gunfire wrote:
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It's a bit more than an accusation gunny, I assume you've seen the pictures and heard the recording?

Plus, he's not been found innocent in a court of law, it seems there was just not enough reliable evidence to proceed after key witnesses withdrew their statements or refused to cooperate.

If I was being cynical I'd suggest witnesses were encouraged to withdraw their testimony and the case collapsed. I hope that this isn't so because this has done nothing to encourage other women to come forward and the lady in question should be ashamed if it did happen and she has withdrawn here accusations to allow him to go free. She should be charged with perverting the course of justice.

Rumours abound that he's back together with his accuser. Missing the affluent lifestyle?

No idea what United do now, they are stuck between a rock and a hardplace. Whatever they do will be seen as wrong and alienate a section of their fans.

Back and playing he's a £50m+ asset and legally he's an innocent man but morally I would suggest it would be very difficult to have him play for United again.


Recordings and pictures are not evidence. Are you someone who believes everything on the internet? I don't. I believe unless it is tested in a court of law it is hearsay. Maybe there was a different context to the recording and the pictures. I have witnessed someone accusing a man of battery and it transpired she used her make up to make her face look bruised. I am not saying it happened here but it has left me cynical. Essentially the legal situation is in England Wales is someone can make an accusation and the defendant's name is over the papers. I can't but think of Ched Evans and his truncated career which was the subject of vitriol from people who think any accusation of sexual violence should be enough to cast you into the outer darkness for ever.


Think of all the mafia and gangland crimes which never get to court because of witness intimidation and witnesses electing not to testify. Doesn't mean they are innocent.

It appears in this case a key witness withdrew their involvement. If it was indeed his girlfriend who refuses to testify because she is back in a relationship with him, as has been suggested, then that is appalling.


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I'd hope Utd take him back. He is innocent and we cannot mere allegations ruining people's lives.

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The bloke is 100% guilty. I heard the audio his then girlfriend released. He is a *%^@*** scumbag and should never play again. If any man treated my daughter like he is heard clearly treating his girlfriend, then I would not be responsible for my actions.

It's so depressing how misogyny and abuse is excused so readily.

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Post #384290  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:47 pm 
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Arteta has won January manager of the month. It’s the 3rd time he’s won it this season from the 5 awards handed out


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The bloke is 100% guilty. I heard the audio his then girlfriend released. He is a *%^@*** scumbag and should never play again. If any man treated my daughter like he is heard clearly treating his girlfriend, then I would not be responsible for my actions.

It's so depressing how misogyny and abuse is excused so readily.


If he did that to any of my daughters, kicking a football would be the least of his worries.

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It's not about this year though. We are looking to next season. Balogun would have started very few games this season because he hadn't proven himself. It's much easier to rotate established players than kids. Grealish and Mahrez are frequently on the bench at City. If we have a good season next year we will play close to 60 games. This season we were talking about putting out weak teams in the cups to save the first 11 for the league. We needed more depth and an improved Balogun adds to that.


Ok then I guess how many games would Nketiah have got if Jesus hadn’t got injured and how many games would a third established striker have got before as well.

The grealish comparison just highlights what I’m saying. 3 city wingers competing for 2 spots. We would have 3 strikers competing for 1. Many games would involve 1 of the 3 not getting any minutes at all.

You are talking about how it would be good for us which it would but I’m suggesting you can’t keep those 3 happy in Artetas system with 1 up front.


Isn’t that the pint though? We’re forced to play some combinations because that’s they only options available. Surely this just gives us more?

Players will always come and go but having the squad depth until they decide to leave is surely a good thing


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Post #384293  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:43 pm 
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The bloke is 100% guilty. I heard the audio his then girlfriend released. He is a *%^@*** scumbag and should never play again. If any man treated my daughter like he is heard clearly treating his girlfriend, then I would not be responsible for my actions.

It's so depressing how misogyny and abuse is excused so readily.


Absolute bollocks. Not a shred of evidence it is true. Furthermore rumours are they are back together. It may have happened it may not. Photos and audios on the internet are not evidence. Trial by internet does not have a good track record.

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Post #384294  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:44 pm 
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putting aside the game where we play Man City on feb 15th Arsenal play our next 4 league games before City play theirs, it is a great opportunity to put them under pressure.


Are you sure. I thought we had one game to be played before we played them according to the BBC.

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Gunfire wrote:
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The bloke is 100% guilty. I heard the audio his then girlfriend released. He is a *%^@*** scumbag and should never play again. If any man treated my daughter like he is heard clearly treating his girlfriend, then I would not be responsible for my actions.

It's so depressing how misogyny and abuse is excused so readily.


Absolute bollocks. Not a shred of evidence it is true. Furthermore rumours are they are back together. It may have happened it may not. Photos and audios on the internet are not evidence. Trial by internet does not have a good track record.


Those things absolutely are evidence, and is exactly what the courts would have been assessing had it gone to trial. Much much more than a shred. Proof is what you might mean, which doesn’t really exist.


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Darren wrote:
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The bloke is 100% guilty. I heard the audio his then girlfriend released. He is a *%^@*** scumbag and should never play again. If any man treated my daughter like he is heard clearly treating his girlfriend, then I would not be responsible for my actions.

It's so depressing how misogyny and abuse is excused so readily.

I have a daughter and honestly the bloke would be an absolute dead man I swear to you. Prison wouldn’t even be a consideration.

Even worse is that it’s alleged she might have gone back to him. In which case I’d frankly make it clear to the daughter it’s me or him.


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Some good highlights here ....



Needs some red cards handed out though ....


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Post #384298  Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:20 pm 
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putting aside the game where we play Man City on feb 15th Arsenal play our next 4 league games before City play theirs, it is a great opportunity to put them under pressure.


Are you sure. I thought we had one game to be played before we played them according to the BBC.

We play Everton (a), Brentford (h) then we play City (h), then Villa (a), Leicester (a). All those other 4 games kick of before City’s fixture that same week


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Aubameyang has been left out of Chelsea’s champions league squad


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I have a daughter and honestly the bloke would be an absolute dead man I swear to you. Prison wouldn’t even be a consideration.

Even worse is that it’s alleged she might have gone back to him. In which case I’d frankly make it clear to the daughter it’s me or him.


Then you would be the one charged by the plod.

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Mudryk subbed off at half time in Chelsea’s game. Not watching it but seen a few people say he hasn’t displayed much defensive side to his game and left Cucurella exposed a bit


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Willian looked an entirely different entity from the lethargic, un-interested, short-timer that we had to put up with. Mudryk...early I know, but if Emile Smith Rowe gets back to where he was I don't see a great loss. Madueke when he came on looked dangerous, and seemed to be a similar type player - for what a third of the Mudryk fee? Must admit it was fun to see Boehly squirming in his seat, watching his squillions of pounds investments struggle to score against the mighty Fulham!


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Mudryk subbed off at half time in Chelsea’s game. Not watching it but seen a few people say he hasn’t displayed much defensive side to his game and left Cucurella exposed a bit

Apparently Mudryk was subbed off due to being a bit ill. A cold.

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Just read that Aubameyang is dropped from Chelsea's ECL squad. That's karma for him

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Mudryk subbed off at half time in Chelsea’s game. Not watching it but seen a few people say he hasn’t displayed much defensive side to his game and left Cucurella exposed a bit

Apparently Mudryk was subbed off due to being a bit ill. A cold.


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Just read that Aubameyang is dropped from Chelsea's ECL squad. That's karma for him

Dang - Shame the transfer windows closed then. Sounds like he might have been a good buy.


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Just read that Aubameyang is dropped from Chelsea's ECL squad. That's karma for him

Dang - Shame the transfer windows closed then. Sounds like he might have been a good buy.

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I remember Balderstone attempting Test cricket and being blown away by Michael Holding at The Oval in 1976. To be fair, he wasn't the only one.

Yes, it seems he only played two Tests. Still, it's quite impressive that the bloke who scored the goal against Tottenham that put Carlisle top of the league (briefly) in 1974 also played Test cricket against the West Indies in 1976.


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A hypothetical home grown 11. You can only name 17 ‘foreign’ players in your 25 man squad, it pays massively to have the best home grown talent in there. It’s a big reason I think the move for Rice in the summer makes sense.


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I'm a dad with a daughter and if Mason Greenwood was accused of doing that I would probably issue loads of angry threats and then remember he's a third of my age and probably quite a lot harder than me.


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No surprises with the starting lineup.

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I'm a dad with a daughter and if Mason Greenwood was accused of doing that I would probably issue loads of angry threats and then remember he's a third of my age and probably quite a lot harder than me.


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Thankfully the chief henchman Godfrey is out so I'm looking forward to a hard but not overdirty game.


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It's not going to be an easy day, is it?

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Everton trying to slow Bukayo down by blinding him


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They look well up for this.

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Put tall big targets upfront, pump balls into the 6 yard box. Simple enough strategy and I fear it will work.

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Not unexpected - the new manager bounce. Hopefully they will burn themselves out and we can pick them off in the latter stages.

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Not unexpected - the new manager bounce. Hopefully they will burn themselves out and we can pick them off in the latter stages.

Agreed. We need to be patient and keep playing our football.


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