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Post #417761  Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:16 pm 
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They played him at wing back ? Twats

Think Southgate may have run his course.

There’s plenty of attacking talent in that side so to struggle to score goals is daft

Saka is more than capable of filling in a number of positions but you can get dragged down to the general mediocrity of the play. Crazy that anyone would criticise Saka for not having a stella game playing at left wing back when he thrives as a right winger. That and having the turgid Maguire as his left sided CB....

England play Maguire, Dier, Walker as CB - none of them are good ball playing CB so we struggle to progress the ball quickly. Southgate should be picking his most technically able players, if he wants a back 3 go with White, Stones, Guehi. Get Chilwell in as a proper left wing back, James/Trent on the other side and play Foden and Saka either side of Kane with Rice and Bellingham in the centre of the park. Personally I'd pick that team minus the extra CB and bring in another central midfielder. You could have a pair of 8's like Arsenal deploy and use Bellingham and Maddison/Foden


I just don’t think at any point the England side should ever play 3 at the back with wing backs. it’s never worked as it involves 5 players who play for different clubs forming a very cohesive defensive unit and it nearly always involves a talented winger being shoe horned into one of the wide positions.

Just a shite idea and going by that team selection it looks like Southgate hasn’t learned from the final defeat when they should have gone for the jugular. It’s the Mike Bassett movie joke really where they joke about changing the formation all the time.


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Post #417762  Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:34 pm 
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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

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Hmm. Can see this developing badly on Tuesday then.

Fears that Partey could miss the north London derby have been eased after a member of the Black Stars’ medical team issued a positive update on the Arsenal midfielder’s fitness.

Journalist George Addo Junior posted on Twitter that he had received an update from a member of the Ghana medical team stating that 29-year-old was left out of the Black Stars’ game against Brazil as a ‘precaution’.

The tweet read: “A member of the Black Stars medical team has confirmed to me Partey’s exclusion was only precautionary.

Partey felt uncomfortable around his knee and was advised to pull out. He should be ready for Tuesday’s game.”

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Post #417764  Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:49 pm 
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Who knows what to believe?

After further talks between Arsenal and Ghana today it’s been decided Thomas Partey will return to London, rather than stay with the national team for the rest of the break.

Arsenal felt that was the better option, given he wasn’t go to play against Nicaragua on Tuesday anyway.

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Post #417765  Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:15 pm 
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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

Concussion presumably (and hopefully) won’t keep him out for the Tottenham game a week away. Scotland have a game on Tuesday away against Ukraine? Will concussion today keep him out of that?

EDIT: The Evening Glasgow Times wrote the following.

“Tierney seemed adamant he could continue in the Nations League clash but it appeared he was told he would be coming off by physios.

The full-back was visibly disappointed to be forced off with head injury protocols appearing to take the decision out of his hands.“

If he wanted to continue and it was the physios who come off with the current head injury protocols as they are, I wouldn’t have thought it would keep Tierney out of the Tottenham match next Saturday.


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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

Concussion presumably (and hopefully) won’t keep him out for the Tottenham game a week away. Scotland have a game on Tuesday away against Ukraine? Will concussion today keep him out of that?

Yes. I presume he will be out of the next Scotland game but should be OK for us next weekend.

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Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

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Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

Six days time is next Friday. I’d like to think he will be okay to play against Tottenham. Not being able to train presumably doesn’t mean he has to stay in bed until Friday. I would hope there’ll be physical activities he can do that’ll keep him fit for next Saturday. And if he has Friday to train fully.


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Bernard wrote:
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Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

Six days time is next Friday. I’d like to think he will be okay to play against Tottenham. Not being able to train presumably doesn’t mean he has to stay in bed until Friday. I would hope there’ll be physical activities he can do that’ll keep him fit for next Saturday. And if he has Friday to train fully.

It's not really about fitness, but more about participation in tactical preparation for the game. I'd guess he will be able to play alright.

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Can we just do away with international football already :laughing7:

Partey gets injured, Tierney concussion, that div Southgate plays Saka out of position in a loss affecting his confidence,


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Tomiyasu has withdrawn from the Japan squad & will not feature in their friendly against Ecuador on Tuesday due to ‘club circumstances’, suggesting that Arsenal requested his leave from the national team.

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Tomiyasu has withdrawn from the Japan squad & will not feature in their friendly against Ecuador on Tuesday due to ‘club circumstances’, suggesting that Arsenal requested his leave from the national team.

Strange one. Very strange considering that other players are not being released from their international squads. Wonder what’s behind it?

The transfer window has closed so it can’t have anything to do with him wanting to leave or Arsenal wanting to sell. So why?


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dec wrote:
Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

I don't like that 'minimum'.

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Who thought of Orange and Black as an Irish strip?

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Decaf wrote:
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Just reading up on it and the minimum period for return to play after concussion is 6 days. He obviously wouldn't be able to train for a few days either, so he might very well be a doubt for the Tottenham game.

I don't like that 'minimum'.

Wouldn’t be worried about it. I imagine they had to pick a number of days and chose six as a minimum. The Tottenham game is in seven days from the incident.


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Who thought of Orange and Black as an Irish strip?

It's not the first time they've worn it but it looks weird. That blue kit they had against Qatar was bizarre too.

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dec wrote:
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Who thought of Orange and Black as an Irish strip?

It's not the first time they've worn it but it looks weird. That blue kit they had against Qatar was bizarre too.


I can see no reason why the shorts would have been green. It would have looked ok. But Black? And that strip against Qatar was very weird.

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Bernard wrote:
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I don't like that 'minimum'.

Wouldn’t be worried about it. I imagine they had to pick a number of days and chose six as a minimum. The Tottenham game is in seven days from the incident.

I hope so. I don't fancy facing Spurs sans Partey.

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Wouldn’t be worried about it. I imagine they had to pick a number of days and chose six as a minimum. The Tottenham game is in seven days from the incident.

I hope so. I don't fancy facing Spurs sans Partey.

You’re getting confused. The number of days recovery refers to concussion as possibly incurred by Tierney. Partey injuring himself warming up is another story.

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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

No doubt ..head butted by Willie John or kicked in the bollocks by Tony O'Reilly .
Be Jasus ; I've followed the underhand misadventures of the doity Oirish pl**cks since 1959 .


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Tierney gone off with concussion in the Scotland v Ireland game.

No doubt ..head butted by Willie John or kicked in the bollocks by Tony O'Reilly .
Be Jasus ; I've followed the underhand misadventures of the doity Oirish pl**cks since 1959 .


:sign19:

Ok, on behalf of those interested, I'll ask:

What's a pl**ck??

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No doubt ..head butted by Willie John or kicked in the bollocks by Tony O'Reilly .
Be Jasus ; I've followed the underhand misadventures of the doity Oirish pl**cks since 1959 .


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Ok, on behalf of those interested, I'll ask:

What's a pl**ck??

Good question, john. You could additionally ask, who the pl**ck are Willie John and Tony O'Reilly?

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We’ve wrecked our economy so that middle aged white people could have a moment to display their xenophobia’s

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We’ve wrecked our economy so that middle aged white people could have a moment to display their xenophobia’s

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-63031372


Not quite. That's an effect.

The cause is the likes of Crispin Odey and other shadowy figures in the financial world. This is the real reason for Brexit. The xenophobia was the tool they exploited to win the vote.

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john1 wrote:
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We’ve wrecked our economy so that middle aged white people could have a moment to display their xenophobia’s

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-63031372


Not quite. That's an effect.

The cause is the likes of Crispin Odey and other shadowy figures in the financial world. This is the real reason for Brexit. The xenophobia was the tool they exploited to win the vote.

When does the realisation happen when they understand this thing will eat through everything we have and they can’t lie about it anymore ?

Economic growth, our currency and even the construct of the UK. It destroys it all.

It’s become so tiresome reading about the damage we are doing to ourselves.


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Not quite. That's an effect.

The cause is the likes of Crispin Odey and other shadowy figures in the financial world. This is the real reason for Brexit. The xenophobia was the tool they exploited to win the vote.

When does the realisation happen when they understand this thing will eat through everything we have and they can’t lie about it anymore ?

Economic growth, our currency and even the construct of the UK. It destroys it all.

It’s become so tiresome reading about the damage we are doing to ourselves.


We're not the ones doing the damage.

But voting Tory at the next election will mean you are responsible for letting them get away with it.

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john1 wrote:
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When does the realisation happen when they understand this thing will eat through everything we have and they can’t lie about it anymore ?

Economic growth, our currency and even the construct of the UK. It destroys it all.

It’s become so tiresome reading about the damage we are doing to ourselves.


We're not the ones doing the damage.

But voting Tory at the next election will mean you are responsible for letting them get away with it.

When Truss is re elected in 2 years it will be the strangest feeling. A nation unable to help itself move forward. Totally controlled by the media and bought politicians


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Or maybe a lot of people have made a democratic decision to support her over Starmer?

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Or maybe a lot of people have made a democratic decision to support her over Starmer?

Nope

Doesn’t work that way in the UK.

They have a word with Murdoch and rothermere who then do their bidding for them and direct their publications to smear any opponent. A country that doesn’t know its being manipulated. How can there be so much public disdain for Meghan Markle despite her never saying a word. The press. Alters public opinion. Far less democracy than many think


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Or maybe a lot of people have made a democratic decision to support her over Starmer?


Not sure that will happen. Tory voters I know aren't happy.

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When Truss is re elected in 2 years it will be the strangest feeling. A nation unable to help itself move forward. Totally controlled by the media and bought politicians


Or maybe a lot of people have made a democratic decision to support her over Starmer?

Nope

Doesn’t work that way in the UK.

They have a word with Murdoch and rothermere who then do their bidding for them and direct their publications to smear any opponent. A country that doesn’t know its being manipulated. How can there be so much public disdain for Meghan Markle despite her never saying a word. The press. Alters public opinion. Far less democracy than many think[/quote]

And don't forget the insidious effect of the likes of Cambridge Analytica. Takes manipulation of individuals to a whole new level.

And that, however people vote, is not good for any democracy.

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Not sure that will happen. Tory voters I know aren't happy.

It’ll happen trust me.

The press will bail them out with a coordinated smear campaign. They’ll retain their base.

Nothing changes the public opinion so much crap is forced down it’s throat.


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… now letters of no confidence going in. Yet the thickos who thought this was a good idea won’t admit it’s a disaster


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Ok, on behalf of those interested, I'll ask:

What's a pl**ck??

Good question, john. You could additionally ask, who the pl**ck are Willie John and Tony O'Reilly?


Obviously for the plonking neanderthals of the world ... who have never heard of Floyd Patterson , Joe Di Maggio , Mahatma Ghandi , Vic Seixas , Edmund Hillary , Alan Turing , Jackie Robinson ..... what can I say ...dim dumb derelict .

Willie John obviously was the greatest rugby lock Ireland is ever likely to produce

.... he king hit Colin Meads [ the All Blacks best ever ] in one game ; Meads went down ; Wilson Whineray All Black captain at the time said to Meads "" FFS don't show him you''re hurt "

Next lineout about five All Blacks punched Mc Bride , he got carried off on a stretcher .

Tony O Reilly was probably one of the best rugby wings ever ...strong , fast ...became CEO of I think Kellogs or some monster multi corporation .


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Or maybe a lot of people have made a democratic decision to support her over Starmer?

The only test will be when a GE is called. No one has had a chance to vote for either as PM yet.

Besides, I have this nagging feeling Boris may well be back in charge of the Tories by next year.

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john1 wrote:

Not sure that will happen. Tory voters I know aren't happy.


Why not stop playing Billy Big Balls with Russia .... negotiate a peace settlement ...get them to turn back on gas , oil , uranium , food , grain . fertiliser , palladium chromium etc .


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… now letters of no confidence going in. Yet the thickos who thought this was a good idea won’t admit it’s a disaster

So Cripsin Odey is a hedge find manager and large Tory donor. Backs and donates to Kwasi Kwerting. Kwerting becomes chancellor. Announces tax cuts that tank the pound. Odey bet against the pound and has now made another fortune on the back of it. Insider dealing much???? Brexit was forged on exactly the same principle. A few elites making money from our hardship and the financial turmoil.

This stuff will be taught in history classes one day.

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Darren wrote:
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… now letters of no confidence going in. Yet the thickos who thought this was a good idea won’t admit it’s a disaster

So Cripsin Odey is a hedge find manager and large Tory donor. Backs and donates to Kwasi Kwerting. Kwerting becomes chancellor. Announces tax cuts that tank the pound. Odey bet against the pound and has now made another fortune on the back of it. Insider dealing much???? Brexit was forged on exactly the same principle. A few elites making money from our hardship and the financial turmoil.

This stuff will be taught in history classes one day.


It's naked corruption imo. They're not even trying to hide it any more.

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kiwipete wrote:
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Not sure that will happen. Tory voters I know aren't happy.


Why not stop playing Billy Big Balls with Russia .... negotiate a peace settlement ...get them to turn back on gas , oil , uranium , food , grain . fertiliser , palladium chromium etc .

Because they will ask for a chunk of the Ukraine in exchange :laughing7:

Is it not blatantly obvious.

Can’t negotiate with that bloke Pete


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Darren wrote:
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… now letters of no confidence going in. Yet the thickos who thought this was a good idea won’t admit it’s a disaster

So Cripsin Odey is a hedge find manager and large Tory donor. Backs and donates to Kwasi Kwerting. Kwerting becomes chancellor. Announces tax cuts that tank the pound. Odey bet against the pound and has now made another fortune on the back of it. day.


And who was he married to ? A murdoch

It’s a cabal


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