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Post #423481  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:19 am 
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Dan Ballard has joined Sunderland permanently after his move to somewhere else (i cna't recall) fell through at the last minute.

Undisclosed fee. I reckon it will be about £1-2m


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Post #423482  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:28 am 
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If we end up signing that centre back Martinez chap who is only 5.7 tall I can only imagine the twitter social media meltdown that will occur if he gets out jumped for a cross.

Is he only 5ft 7ins? Effing hell, that’s even shorter than I realised. I’d assumed he must be about 5ft 9ins at least, which is still very short for a Premier League central defender.

Bloody Nora, if he’s 5ft 7ins then Warwick Davis could possibly out jump him (imagine a smiley here).

He is 5ft 9". He shows up as 1.75m tall which is 5ft 9". Still short for a CB but watch clips of him he is decent in the air


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Post #423483  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:45 am 
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Bernard wrote:
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If we end up signing that centre back Martinez chap who is only 5.7 tall I can only imagine the twitter social media meltdown that will occur if he gets out jumped for a cross.

Is he only 5ft 7ins? Effing hell, that’s even shorter than I realised. I’d assumed he must be about 5ft 9ins at least, which is still very short for a Premier League central defender.

Bloody Nora, if he’s 5ft 7ins then Warwick Davis could possibly out jump him (imagine a smiley here).


5'9 actually (and no venereal diseases mentioned).

I can think of a few top CBs who were 5'10 or less. Puyol, Cannevaro, etc ... Can't think of any in the premier league.

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Decaf wrote:
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Is he only 5ft 7ins? Effing hell, that’s even shorter than I realised. I’d assumed he must be about 5ft 9ins at least, which is still very short for a Premier League central defender.

Bloody Nora, if he’s 5ft 7ins then Warwick Davis could possibly out jump him (imagine a smiley here).


5'9 actually (and no venereal diseases mentioned).

I can think of a few top CBs who were 5'10 or less. Puyol, Cannevaro, etc ... Can't think of any in the premier league.


Still a midget.

The shortest centre half’s I’ve seen play for Arsenal were Keown and Ben white who I think were both 6.1.

5.9 is really short. That’s even shorter than Steve nicol and everyone said he was small. Early ball goes in the box towards Kane or Calvert Lewin how is Peter Dinklage supposed to deal with it?


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Early ball goes in the box towards Kane or Calvert Lewin how is Peter Dinklage supposed to deal with it?

Jump?


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Being short as a CB is obviously a disadvantage, but there's so much more to being good in the air than height. Timing, athleticism, positioning... I'd rather have a CB who's a little short but aggressive, quick and good on the ball than a donkey like Maguire who is tall and strong but can't play a pass longer than three yards or carry the ball ten yards without tripping himself.


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Post #423487  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:59 am 
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Hazuki wrote:
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Early ball goes in the box towards Kane or Calvert Lewin how is Peter Dinklage supposed to deal with it?

Jump?

And hope the attacker doesn’t ?


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Post #423488  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:36 am 
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Take away Richarlison's penalties and Richarlison has a worse Premier League mins per goal ratio (286), than Chris Wood (284), Salomón Rondón (283) and Danny Welbeck (266).


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Post #423489  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:01 pm 
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Up front spurs are vastly superior to us. Possibly the best striker in the world right now leading the line and now 2 international strikers as back up. Compare that to us and I think it gives them an edge personally. I think generally across other areas of our team we are better but such a crucial part of the pitch and in the premiership it’s always about the first goal.

I would say they have a slight edge and based on the transfer business we have done so far assuming we don’t get Raphina the other players we seem to be getting linked to probably wouldn’t swing it either. More power up front and more power in the middle of the park are required. Not sure if we are going to address this in this window


I don't think so. Lewandowski, Mbape, Benzema even Song has been better this season.

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Take away Richarlison's penalties and Richarlison has a worse Premier League mins per goal ratio (286), than Chris Wood (284), Salomón Rondón (283) and Danny Welbeck (266).

Good signing for Spurs, albeit quite expensive. Its ok to take a risk on a player like that when you have what spurs already has.

However, not the player I would want for us.

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Post #423492  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:21 pm 
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Nightmares around passport renewal so I went early in the hope of getting away later in the year.

Renewed on line last Thursday - took 10 mins - new passport turned up this morning.

Johnson may be a tosser but that’s impressive.


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Post #423493  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:33 pm 
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Laptop is working now.

Richarlison has never impressed me. He flattered to deceive at Watford and he certainly hasn't kicked on at Everton. Remember Everton paid (up to) £50m for his potential and he's been sold on 3 years later for not a lot more. That's not career progression.

Have to say I've often been impressed by Bissouma but he had a sexual assault charge hanging over his head. He may have been cleared but it still takes the gloss off him. At a reported £25m, it seems to me that Brighton were keen to get rid of him.


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Arsenal website
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Saliba back to Arsenal would be good business. Hope it happens.

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Zed wrote:
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Saliba back to Arsenal would be good business. Hope it happens.

Saliba's back at Arsenal, no?

Edit. He's been given the number 2 shirt.

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Nightmares around passport renewal so I went early in the hope of getting away later in the year.

Renewed on line last Thursday - took 10 mins - new passport turned up this morning.

Johnson may be a tosser but that’s impressive.


Glad it worked out well for you. My missus had the opposite experience trying to renew her passport. The incompetence of the passport service was actually rather impressive.


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Football history.

I’m on holiday in Oludeniz, Turkey, and this afternoon got chatting to an elderly Italian Juve fan who was in the stadium when Vaessen scored that goal.
I tried to tell him I was listening in my bedroom on BBC radio in Shrewsbury England, but I think that got lost in translation.

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Post #423498  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:37 pm 
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Links with Lille midfielder Amadou Onana, defensive midfielder 6ft 5" - that'll please some people!


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Post #423499  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:21 pm 
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Ornstein saying Utd are close to tying up a deal for Martinez. Just hope we have alternatives lined up as it seems we’ve missed out on two of our three key targets.

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Darren wrote:
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Saliba back to Arsenal would be good business. Hope it happens.

Saliba's back at Arsenal, no?

Edit. He's been given the number 2 shirt.

Saliba's no 2 shirt number was leaked online Darren.

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Post #423501  Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:20 am 
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Just a hunch but honestly I could see Neymar ending up at Chelsea

There are no links about it at all but just strikes me as the type of thing that club would do. He’s pretty burned at PSG his wages are ridiculous. Many wouldn’t touch him.


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Hazuki wrote:
Being short as a CB is obviously a disadvantage, but there's so much more to being good in the air than height. Timing, athleticism, positioning... I'd rather have a CB who's a little short but aggressive, quick and good on the ball than a donkey like Maguire who is tall and strong but can't play a pass longer than three yards or carry the ball ten yards without tripping himself.

The thing is, athleticism, timing and positioning can be attributes of taller forwards and central defenders going up for free kicks and corners too. A 5ft 9in Martinez with timing, athleticism and positioning against six foot plus opponents with timing, athleticism and positioning will be at a disadvantage.

Mind you, according to Darren’s post about Ornstein’s comments, it’s probably all academic anyway. I guess with ten Hag, Manchester United were always going to have the advantage getting Martinez. As Darren implied, with Raphina also likely to go elsewhere (everything I’ve read suggests we were o better than third in his preferred destinations behind Barcelona and Chelsea), two of our alleged big targets won’t be recruited.

Myself, I think the last two months of the transfer window are vital for Arsenal. That’s regardless of Jesus arriving, which I firmly expect him to. As things stand, we’re not only miles behind City and Liverpool, but I have little or no confidence of matching Chelsea, Tottenham and Manchester United. If Kroenke has made the funds to buy all these targets available, then I reckon Edu and Arteta May well have some questions to answer.

Things can certainly change over the reminder of the transfer window. For us I think they have to.


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Looks like we’re out of Raphinha and Martinez. It is a tough one for the club because I’ve seen criticism that we didn’t just go in with a big serious bid but those same people would criticise the club for overpaying. Raphinha wanted Barca then Chelsea as his back up. Martinez with Ten Hag connections and Van Der Saar as the Ajax technical director wanting to help Man U rather than us meant they were both going to be difficult to do. We can only find that out by making those bids. You could say we’ve at least forced the others to pay too whack for them.

What we have seen is the club are willing to commit close to £100m on a left centre back and a winger.

We’ve found out pretty early in the window we can’t get those 2, we’ve already bagged 2 of our first choice targets and have plenty of time to get some more in.

I wonder if we might go back for Hickey or Zinchenko. On the right there are links to Gnabry (!), the closest player to Raphinha would be Diaby

The only concern I have is if the club don’t get their targets and fail to move some players on then whilst we might have taken a step forward with the squad there would still be pretty big weaknesses that could make it feel like another semi-transitional season until we can fill those gaps


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Different words Rich, but I can’t see a huge difference between your last post and my one before it.


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Rich wrote:
Looks like we’re out of Raphinha and Martinez. It is a tough one for the club because I’ve seen criticism that we didn’t just go in with a big serious bid but those same people would criticise the club for overpaying. Raphinha wanted Barca then Chelsea as his back up. Martinez with Ten Hag connections and Van Der Saar as the Ajax technical director wanting to help Man U rather than us meant they were both going to be difficult to do. We can only find that out by making those bids. You could say we’ve at least forced the others to pay too whack for them.

What we have seen is the club are willing to commit close to £100m on a left centre back and a winger.

We’ve found out pretty early in the window we can’t get those 2, we’ve already bagged 2 of our first choice targets and have plenty of time to get some more in.

I wonder if we might go back for Hickey or Zinchenko. On the right there are links to Gnabry (!), the closest player to Raphinha would be Diaby

The only concern I have is if the club don’t get their targets and fail to move some players on then whilst we might have taken a step forward with the squad there would still be pretty big weaknesses that could make it feel like another semi-transitional season until we can fill those gaps


Hi Rich,

As I said a couple of weeks ago, all those fans who were proclaiming this to be the greatest transfer window ever based on nothing more than links with quality players needed to take a breath. Links mean nothing until you actually get a deal over the line.

Like you, I wouldn't mind seeing Zaha coming in. OK, so he's nearly 30 and doesn't fit the age profile but he's quality PL proven and players are increasingly playing into their mid 30s these days.

I've read that the Tielemans deal has stalled because we are offering £25m and Leicester want £40-45m.

Raphina always felt opportunistic as his preferences were clear.

Martinez feels a bit different, maybe we could have got closer to their asking price quicker. Who knows how it played out. Was Edu too slow or was it just a deal Man U were always going to do because of the Ten Hag connection.

I just hope we have other quality targets to bring in.


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Looks like we’re out of Raphinha and Martinez. It is a tough one for the club because I’ve seen criticism that we didn’t just go in with a big serious bid but those same people would criticise the club for overpaying. Raphinha wanted Barca then Chelsea as his back up. Martinez with Ten Hag connections and Van Der Saar as the Ajax technical director wanting to help Man U rather than us meant they were both going to be difficult to do. We can only find that out by making those bids. You could say we’ve at least forced the others to pay too whack for them.

What we have seen is the club are willing to commit close to £100m on a left centre back and a winger.

We’ve found out pretty early in the window we can’t get those 2, we’ve already bagged 2 of our first choice targets and have plenty of time to get some more in.

I wonder if we might go back for Hickey or Zinchenko. On the right there are links to Gnabry (!), the closest player to Raphinha would be Diaby

The only concern I have is if the club don’t get their targets and fail to move some players on then whilst we might have taken a step forward with the squad there would still be pretty big weaknesses that could make it feel like another semi-transitional season until we can fill those gaps


Hi Rich,

As I said a couple of weeks ago, all those fans who were proclaiming this to be the greatest transfer window ever based on nothing more than links with quality players needed to take a breath. Links mean nothing until you actually get a deal over the line.

Like you, I wouldn't mind seeing Zaha coming in. OK, so he's nearly 30 and doesn't fit the age profile but he's quality PL proven and players are increasingly playing into their mid 30s these days.

I've read that the Tielemans deal has stalled because we are offering £25m and Leicester want £40-45m.

Raphina always felt opportunistic as his preferences were always clear.

Martinez feels a bit different, maybe we could have got closer to their asking price quicker. Who knows how it played out. Was Edu too slow or was it just a deal Man U were always going to do because of the Ten Hag connection.

I just hope we have other quality targets to bring in.

Like we discussed all those players were never all coming. Not bothered about Martinez as I couldn’t honestly see where we were going to play him which probably is the reason why we didn’t meet their asking price which is a lot for a player with no obvious spot.

On wingers keep an eye on Pedro Neto at wolves. Shares the same agent as Fabio Vieira and we tried to sign him before when he was at braga.

Tielemans you must be right on. No way would that have been done by now if the fee is only 25. No brainier. That will go to the end of the window Leicester won’t sell their best player for that amount.


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Bernard wrote:
Different words Rich, but I can’t see a huge difference between your last post and my one before it.


Rich was slightly less pessimistic Bernard.

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Different words Rich, but I can’t see a huge difference between your last post and my one before it.

Rich was slightly less pessimistic Bernard.

Fair point, though I did say not a ‘huge difference’ (imagine a smiley here). You used the word ‘slightly’ after all (imagine another smiley).


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So it looks like united are spending over 100 million on de jong, Martinez and the other guy. Pretty big spending.

I know literally nothing about de jong and if he moves the needle for them.


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So it looks like united are spending over 100 million on de jong, Martinez and the other guy. Pretty big spending.

I know literally nothing about de jong and if he moves the needle for them.

De Jong is an excellent player and there's no way Barcelona would be selling him if they didn't have financial problems. He is certainly streets ahead of McTominay and Fred. How he would fit with Fernandes remains to be seen. There's also the Man U factor. So many good players simply don't work out there.

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Just a hunch but honestly I could see Neymar ending up at Chelsea

There are no links about it at all but just strikes me as the type of thing that club would do. He’s pretty burned at PSG his wages are ridiculous. Many wouldn’t touch him.

It might all change after the world cup. Brazil have a very good team this time around and while Neymar might phone in performances for PSG, he won't do that in a world cup for Brazil. It is an opportunity for redemption is a way. Whatever we think about him, he is outrageously talented.

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socrates wrote:
As I said a couple of weeks ago, all those fans who were proclaiming this to be the greatest transfer window ever based on nothing more than links with quality players needed to take a breath. Links mean nothing until you actually get a deal over the line.

This is true, but it also works the opposite way. People who spend their days following transfer links get a skewed sense of reality in a way. Strong links to a player possibly moving to their club and they immeadiately start seeing new starting lineups, their team reaching the next level etc. And then the links break down and it's a disaster, the club is going nowhere and so on.

Personally, I don't see it as anything worth getting too worked up about. The important thing to me is that we're obviously looking to seriously strengthening the team - being prepared to pay 85-90m for Raphinha and Martinez on top of what we've already spent is a clear indication of that, and if we don't get those two particular players there are others out there. It would be a completely different thing if we miss out on them and end up signing nobody, but I would be very surprised if that happened.


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Hazuki wrote:
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As I said a couple of weeks ago, all those fans who were proclaiming this to be the greatest transfer window ever based on nothing more than links with quality players needed to take a breath. Links mean nothing until you actually get a deal over the line.

This is true, but it also works the opposite way. People who spend their days following transfer links get a skewed sense of reality in a way. Strong links to a player possibly moving to their club and they immeadiately start seeing new starting lineups, their team reaching the next level etc. And then the links break down and it's a disaster, the club is going nowhere and so on.

Personally, I don't see it as anything worth getting too worked up about. The important thing to me is that we're obviously looking to seriously strengthening the team - being prepared to pay 85-90m for Raphinha and Martinez on top of what we've already spent is a clear indication of that, and if we don't get those two particular players there are others out there. It would be a completely different thing if we miss out on them and end up signing nobody, but I would be very surprised if that happened.

Thanks Haz. You’ve cheered me up a bit there with your perspective.

I do hope that incomings are sorted out in time for the early start to the season though.

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Bernard wrote:
Different words Rich, but I can’t see a huge difference between your last post and my one before it.

True. I sometimes log in and post without catching up on what I’ve missed.


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Every big team is signing players but it must be a huge statistical improbability that every single one of them improves.

in terms of moving the dial I would say Arsenal, Spurs and Man U will probably be doing that more than City, Liverpool and Chelsea come the end of the summer. Mainly due to the obvious gaps in each of our squads.

If you look at the existing players in the squad you’d be able to make a good case for our players having greater potential to move the dial than any of the other top 6 because of their age and because so many of our starting 11 were new to the club last year or year before. Think how many of our current best 11 were in the definite first 11 for us 2 years ago, not many!


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Rich wrote:
Looks like we’re out of Raphinha and Martinez. It is a tough one for the club because I’ve seen criticism that we didn’t just go in with a big serious bid but those same people would criticise the club for overpaying. Raphinha wanted Barca then Chelsea as his back up. Martinez with Ten Hag connections and Van Der Saar as the Ajax technical director wanting to help Man U rather than us meant they were both going to be difficult to do. We can only find that out by making those bids. You could say we’ve at least forced the others to pay too whack for them.

What we have seen is the club are willing to commit close to £100m on a left centre back and a winger.

We’ve found out pretty early in the window we can’t get those 2, we’ve already bagged 2 of our first choice targets and have plenty of time to get some more in.

I wonder if we might go back for Hickey or Zinchenko. On the right there are links to Gnabry (!), the closest player to Raphinha would be Diaby

The only concern I have is if the club don’t get their targets and fail to move some players on then whilst we might have taken a step forward with the squad there would still be pretty big weaknesses that could make it feel like another semi-transitional season until we can fill those gaps


Hi Rich,

As I said a couple of weeks ago, all those fans who were proclaiming this to be the greatest transfer window ever based on nothing more than links with quality players needed to take a breath. Links mean nothing until you actually get a deal over the line.

Like you, I wouldn't mind seeing Zaha coming in. OK, so he's nearly 30 and doesn't fit the age profile but he's quality PL proven and players are increasingly playing into their mid 30s these days.

I've read that the Tielemans deal has stalled because we are offering £25m and Leicester want £40-45m.

Raphina always felt opportunistic as his preferences were clear.

Martinez feels a bit different, maybe we could have got closer to their asking price quicker. Who knows how it played out. Was Edu too slow or was it just a deal Man U were always going to do because of the Ten Hag connection.

I just hope we have other quality targets to bring in.


So, that's the vibe among fans? Wow! I certainly wasn't thinking that but it seems some of us are possibly overoptimistic in my humble opinion.

That's how it is with the transfer window. Wild rumors. I have bought into that mania more than once so I can't be too harsh or be a hypocrite.

I would have been happy with a Bissouma and a very good striker who can give us minimally 15 EPL goals. But I am easy to please these days.

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The Bologna left back hickey is going to Brentford. We were being linked with him so another one off the list.


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Aaron Hickey to Brentford, £14m plus add ons. Remarkable, earlier in the window there was talk of £20-25m.

At that price and Brentford getting him you really have to believe that we’re not interested.


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Part of the problem is we have all these players who we literally can’t sell for love nor money so we don’t know how much budget we can spare. I think the loan system devalues the player when they leave making virtually impossible to move them after. These clubs like Roma and Fiorentina are literally borrowing players they have no intention of buying

Surely ainsleys worth a punt at 10 million. Leno definitely worth 10 how has nobody snapped him up yet. Even Mari at 6 million euros is surely worth somebody taking a punt on. A serie A club can’t afford 4 million quid. What’s going on.


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Post #423520  Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:54 pm 
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Apparently with Martinez Man U see him as a CB but Arsenal see him as a left back. He plays almost exclusively as a CB for Ajax and Argentina


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