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Post #360081  Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:16 am 
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Reiss Nelson has had a dissapointing spell, he's looked distinctly unimpressive in the few matches he played for Feyenoord. No way good enough for the Arsenal.

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Post #360082  Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:18 am 
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Saw that. If it’s legit, and there’s very little reason to assume it isn’t, then he is a scumbag who deserves everything that will come his way. *%^@.


Hi Darren,

We all know how this plays out, he promises to get help and it gets brushed under the carpet because he's too big an asset for United to kick out the club.


Not sure about this take. The video put out is pretty visceral, I can’t see how they could continue playing him whilst there’s no clarity from the poor girl or he himself. Serious accusation backed up with photographic, audio and visual evidence it’s not like the other cases based on what’s been said.

It’s crazy the way all of this stuff plays out on social media these days.


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Hitting women is wrong under any circumstances obviously. When you are in the public eye, you have to be extra careful. Is it worth your career possibly? Walk way, drop the girl if she's mouthing off at the lip. I think it was the rapper Jay Z who said he had to take more lip and walk away from people and situations that he would have otherwise dealt with on street level. He hits someone before he's famous nothing comes of it. He hits them now and its front page news, a lawsuit, etc.

Let's hope the club doesn't have a Richie Aprile view of domestic violence.


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Walk way, drop the girl if she's mouthing off at the lip.

Where to start ...

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Yeah we have our own DV celebrities here.

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Post #360086  Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:33 am 
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ily-panic/

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/01/29/january-business-arsenal-spurs-newcastle-has-unhealthily-panic/

Paywall/Email sign-up. My grandad, who was a Spurs fan, was also a long-time reader of The Telegraph. I'm not, so maybe give us a quick summary?

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/01/29/january-business-arsenal-spurs-newcastle-has-unhealthily-panic/

Paywall/Email sign-up. My grandad, who was a Spurs fan, was also a long-time reader of The Telegraph. I'm not, so maybe give us a quick summary?

Heya - I can see that ok - I use ad blockers on my computer with Firefox.

Does it show any of the article or are you using a mobile phone ??


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LOL...funny little story. Why do players feel so intimidated by Keane even off the pitch? Sometimes I like Keane, sometimes I don't, but whatever, so what? Do you.

https://www.givemesport.com/1830178-peter-crouch-once-sold-aston-martin-for-20k-loss-because-of-man-utd-legend-roy-keane

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Yeah we have our own DV celebrities here.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -post.html


"alleged" victim. In American media they do a checklist of the accused to determine if the term 'alleged' should be used. It could be on camera and I've seen 'alleged' banted about.

Like the old adage 'Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?'

That's a crazy story though....crying out 'no justice'! Ha! Talk about feeling entitled. I was waiting for him to finish with '...no peace'.

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Paywall/Email sign-up. My grandad, who was a Spurs fan, was also a long-time reader of The Telegraph. I'm not, so maybe give us a quick summary?

Heya - I can see that ok - I use ad blockers on my computer with Firefox.

Does it show any of the article or are you using a mobile phone ??

Interesting. Thanks, Rog. I don't use ad blockers, of Firefox for that matter. I was using my desktop (on Google Chrome), which, admittedly is as fresh as BoyzIIMen. Great as they were.

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At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised to see Wilshire unveiled as our new signing.


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Interesting. Thanks, Rog. I don't use ad blockers, of Firefox for that matter. I was using my desktop (on Google Chrome), which, admittedly is as fresh as BoyzIIMen. Great as they were.


My man - Try using UBlock Origin for Chrome.

Adverts suck, slow down the internet, can have privacy issues, are distracting and use excess bandwidth, and can also contain malware/viruses if clicked on.

Link here : https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... iagm?hl=en

You can always switch it on and off as needed.

I use many ad blockers and privacy blockers, VPN's etc.

I've not seen an advert on the internet since the Thatcher era. :emoticon_mClapp:


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Here's a quick list of what I use - because I'm bored

PIA VPN which has an upstream adblocker (Mace) which blocks ads at the source.
*It also allows viewing of anything from whatever country which bypasses "GEO Blocking"

It also uses a private DNS server and not an Australian one which prevents me from getting pages blocked via DNS poisoning - Which they do here a fair bit.

In Firefox, I use AdBlockPlus, UBlock Origin, Privacy badger, NoScript, Absolute Right click (which enables right click on all pages), Don't 'F' with Paste (which allows password pasting even when websites try blocking it), Multi containers for tabs, Enhancer for YouTube (Adblocker and enables loads of features in YouTube), "I don't care about cookies" and Auto Cookie delete (which enables viewing news pages that have limited free articles.)

UBlock Origin is a beast though and will kill all adverts and has a script killer in it too for those web sites that ask you to 'register for free to continue reading'.

It's nice watching YouTube without any adverts too.

Protip - You can add UBlock Origin to mobile phones, Chrome, Firefox, Edge, etc too.


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Interesting. Thanks, Rog. I don't use ad blockers, of Firefox for that matter. I was using my desktop (on Google Chrome), which, admittedly is as fresh as BoyzIIMen. Great as they were.


My man - Try using UBlock Origin for Chrome.

Adverts suck, slow down the internet, can have privacy issues, are distracting and use excess bandwidth, and can also contain malware/viruses if clicked on.

Link here : https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... iagm?hl=en

You can always switch it on and off as needed.

I use many ad blockers and privacy blockers, VPN's etc.

I've not seen an advert on the internet since the Thatcher era. :emoticon_mClapp:

Thanks, Rog! I really appreciate it. I can almost forgive your earlier comment about Yoko. I reckon 'Walking on Thin Ice' was pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u7jf-TYoZk

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Thanks, Rog! I really appreciate it. I can almost forgive your earlier comment about Yoko.

But then there's this ...



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The only reason for not getting a striker in now can;t be because of the money, because all of these strikers will cost the same in the summer no doubt, it can only be because clubs won't let them leave in january - which is understandable if teams are on the brink of Europe/Relegation.

However, we should be exploring loan options to see us through to the end of the year. Low cost, low risk, potential high reward


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No way are they contemplating letting Aubameyang and Nketiah go if they aren’t speaking to a new striker. No chance. Ornstein is saying Aubameyang is off to Barcelona.

Isak must be joining.


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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/01/29/january-business-arsenal-spurs-newcastle-has-unhealthily-panic/

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This is the portion about us...................................................

Arsenal have to do something, but why have they left it so late?

Arteta’s hand is not as strong. Arsenal is his first managerial job and so he has to be more cautious in how hard he pushes especially as club owner Stan Kroenke will have wanted answers during discussions in Denver last week as to how the squad’s highest-paid player, and the now defunct captain, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang has been exiled and what the plan is for him. There have been loan approaches from Barcelona and Juventus but wages, obviously, are an issue for a player on such an incredible salary.

How Arteta would love Aubameyang to leave and a new striker sign in the next couple of days but Arsenal have hit a brick wall, so far, on both fronts. Their number one target, Fiorentina’s Dusan Vlahovic, has joined Juventus for £58.2m and if he lined up alongside Aubameyang in Turin rather than at the Emirates then Arsenal fans will believe it sums up this window.

Alternatives such as Real Sociedad’s Alexander Isak appear to be too expensive. Will Everton sell Dominic Calvert-Lewin? Arsenal may have to look elsewhere and it is negligent to go in the second-half of the season like this especially as Alexandre Lacazette and Eddie Nketiah are out of contract in the summer and probably leaving. Nketiah may go before then if Newcastle can finalise a move.

In midfield, too, Arsenal have been unable to strengthen as planned. Talks with Juventus over a loan for Arthur Melo have gone nowhere, Guimaraes is joining Newcastle and Aston Villa insist Douglas Luiz is not for sale. Again Arsenal surely have to do something although their fans are right to question – as is happening at Spurs – why they have left it all so late. Both clubs have technical directors. They appear to have been asleep at the wheel.

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At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised to see Wilshire unveiled as our new signing.


He was photographed in Dubai training and he had a squad number. 12 I think. Maybe he will be a "signing ".

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The answer to all our problems. Jack Wilshere. As centre forward no doubt.

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The answer to all our problems. Jack Wilshere. As centre forward no doubt.

Wilshere, in theory, can sign out of the window as he’s not under contract so the rules don’t apply. He can sign in a month if we so wish.

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The Bruno Guimaraes deal to Newcastle includes a 20% sell on clause. Suspect not many of the clubs with him in mind would have accepted that clause


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Man U say Greenwood will not return to training or play matches until further notice


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The answer to all our problems. Jack Wilshere. As centre forward no doubt.

Wilshere, in theory, can sign out of the window as he’s not under contract so the rules don’t apply. He can sign in a month if we so wish.

Hi Darren. Yes I had read that previously. It’s just that I was hoping for something more substantial in the way of squad rebuild. So far it’s a keeper from the MLS.

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What I don’t get about the Wilshere situation is that he can probably get a job if he wants one.

He was turned down by Bournemouth and a serie B team so obviously Arsenal won’t go for him but surely if he can drop down the league a bit he’ll eventually get a contract even if it’s at Barnet. Surely orient or someone would offer him a contract. His agent needs to put a hand round his shoulder and say look mate you need to lower your expectations. Just seems weird, Arteta said we won’t be signing him but still there’s fans suggesting it will happen. No chance


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Man U say Greenwood will not return to training or play matches until further notice

It’s ironic. Before this story broke I wouldn’t have minded Arsenal getting Greenwood. But I didn’t think Manchester United would sell him, especially to a rival for a top four place. Now Manchester United probably will release him, I don’t suppose Arsenal would go near him with a barge pole.


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Man U say Greenwood will not return to training or play matches until further notice

It’s ironic. Before this story broke I wouldn’t have minded Arsenal getting Greenwood. But I didn’t think Manchester United would sell him, especially to a rival for a top four place. Now Manchester United probably will release him, I don’t suppose Arsenal would go near him with a barge pole.

If the allegations are true, and hearing that audio it seems highly likely, his career is over. Good chance he could get a prison sentence.

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It’s ironic. Before this story broke I wouldn’t have minded Arsenal getting Greenwood. But I didn’t think Manchester United would sell him, especially to a rival for a top four place. Now Manchester United probably will release him, I don’t suppose Arsenal would go near him with a barge pole.

If the allegations are true, and hearing that audio it seems highly likely, his career is over. Good chance he could get a prison sentence.

I dunno. Read her fathers statement he made. Doesn’t sound like they want to take it much further. A complete tosser.

I’d be reaching for the baseball bat.


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If the allegations are true, and hearing that audio it seems highly likely, his career is over. Good chance he could get a prison sentence.

I dunno. Read her fathers statement he made. Doesn’t sound like they want to take it much further. A complete tosser.

I’d be reaching for the baseball bat.

Ive never quite understood what happens if the victim doesn’t want to press charges. How do the police decide to charge anyway? Of course in this case if the police feel they have a case then Greenwood should be charged, but if you need the victims testimony and they don’t want to give it how does it work?
You see scuffles end up with various parties not wanting to press charges and nothing happens. I’m certainly not comparing the two or trivialising the accusations just generally interested in how that part of policing and CPS works?


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I read a short piece by a fan that said what if the club’s target was 6th, and they won’t go outside the plan to rush to get top 4 of it isn’t part of the long term plan. The club have recently admitted that we were wrong to look for quick and expensive solutions to get back in the top 4.

I get the point. To me this may be the best opportunity we have. Next season we could have europa competition and other teams may have got out of their funk, or strengthened or got used to their new manager (Conte) or hired a new manager (Man U)


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I dunno. Read her fathers statement he made. Doesn’t sound like they want to take it much further. A complete tosser.

I’d be reaching for the baseball bat.

Ive never quite understood what happens if the victim doesn’t want to press charges. How do the police decide to charge anyway? Of course in this case if the police feel they have a case then Greenwood should be charged, but if you need the victims testimony and they don’t want to give it how does it work?
You see scuffles end up with various parties not wanting to press charges and nothing happens. I’m certainly not comparing the two or trivialising the accusations just generally interested in how that part of policing and CPS works?

I’m not a legal expert but I believe it’s down to the CPS if they want to proceed with the charges even if the victim doesn’t want to proceed. If it’s obvious a crime has taken place in some circumstances they may proceed.

If you recall the Caroline flack case her partner dropped the charges and was asking the police and CPS to back down but they wouldn’t as there was sufficient evidence a crime had occurred.


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I read a short piece by a fan that said what if the club’s target was 6th, and they won’t go outside the plan to rush to get top 4 of it isn’t part of the long term plan. The club have recently admitted that we were wrong to look for quick and expensive solutions to get back in the top 4.

I get the point. To me this may be the best opportunity we have. Next season we could have europa competition and other teams may have got out of their funk, or strengthened or got used to their new manager (Conte) or hired a new manager (Man U)

Newcastle has the type of owners that will want to get to the top as soon as they can and will spend with that mindset. It may not be next season but within the next few seasons all the top 6 sides will have to contend with them and we should be accounting for that.

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Guimares unveiling video on social media (not sure if it is an official Newcastle one or one put together by the players team) starts with a collage of newspaper headlines linking the player to Arsenal, top target, desperate for him etc. It’s a strange take to make on a new signing video. I think all the players signing for them will have relegation release clauses, you’d be stupid not to


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I read a short piece by a fan that said what if the club’s target was 6th, and they won’t go outside the plan to rush to get top 4 of it isn’t part of the long term plan. The club have recently admitted that we were wrong to look for quick and expensive solutions to get back in the top 4.

I get the point. To me this may be the best opportunity we have. Next season we could have europa competition and other teams may have got out of their funk, or strengthened or got used to their new manager (Conte) or hired a new manager (Man U)


Hi Rich,

Totally agree.

We are in touching distance of the top four with weaker squads than United or Spurs. We have no in-form, non-alienated PL goalscorer in the squad, and Aubameyang looks to be on his way out. Our midfield is threadbare and it seems we will be relying on Tomiyasu or White to fill in at CB and RB respectively if required.

We are a few injuries or some covid cases away from struggling to field a team capable of mounting any sort of 4th spot challenge.

Next year Newcastle may be in the mix so who knows if this will be a great opportunity lost if things do go pear-shaped.

It is mad that we haven't at the very least brought in a striker on loan.

We have let several fringe players go but it seems we will bring no one in. Its a gamble that makes little sense to me.


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I dunno. Read her fathers statement he made. Doesn’t sound like they want to take it much further. A complete tosser.

I’d be reaching for the baseball bat.

Ive never quite understood what happens if the victim doesn’t want to press charges. How do the police decide to charge anyway? Of course in this case if the police feel they have a case then Greenwood should be charged, but if you need the victims testimony and they don’t want to give it how does it work?
You see scuffles end up with various parties not wanting to press charges and nothing happens. I’m certainly not comparing the two or trivialising the accusations just generally interested in how that part of policing and CPS works?


I thought the very same, Rich.


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Just read that chambers had a 1 year extension clause in his contract but the club chose not to activate it in preference to a sale.They are really clearing the decks aren’t they. I would have kept him


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If you think of “press charges” as a non technical term just meaning cooperating, it makes more sense. Like TG said “The Crown” -CPS - prosecute what they have evidence for. If all parties won’t cooperate like often happens a few days after the fact in DV cases the evidence is really sparse and the chances of conviction so small the CPS don’t proceed.

“Press charges” as I understand the term used, thanks American TV, doesn’t exist formally in any country, the decision to prosecute is always with the state and not the individual.


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Just read that chambers had a 1 year extension clause in his contract but the club chose not to activate it in preference to a sale.They are really clearing the decks aren’t they. I would have kept him


I read that too, TG, it seems mad. They could have activated the clause and maybe got £8-10m for hin in the summer?


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Just read that chambers had a 1 year extension clause in his contract but the club chose not to activate it in preference to a sale.They are really clearing the decks aren’t they. I would have kept him


Believe they are accumulating funds and, at same time, clear fringe players. Looks like a good one or two coming in on deadline day. Here's hoping.

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