Any thought about what we can do about they others?

I completely agree on that one. Dare I say yesterday was another game where we quite possibly missed him. I understand why people moan about the number of cards Xhaka gets. But Partey’s first booking, which I think was very harsh, was something Xhaka routinely gets a yellow card for. Moreover, I reckon Partey’s second booking was something Xhaka would often get a straight red for.

It was a tackle that Partey probably should have got a straight red for.

An allround striker with gamebreaking ability could really kick us up another level, but I think a lot of our fortune in the coming seasons will depend on internal development of our young players. Saka, Smith-Rowe, Martinelli and Ødegaard will have a big part to play in this team, and they're still very young. Comparing it to our rivals, Kane is 28, Son and Moura are 29. Man Utd have Fernandes who's 27, Ronaldo at 36, and Pogba who is 28 and was instrumental in a couple of their wins early in the season.

Our attacking players just aren't there yet, but with the way they're developing each season I don't think we have to wait long for them to start winning games more regularly for us.

Morning socrates. I bet Ramsdale is very disappointed in himself that he let the first goal in. The shot was little harder than a gentle back pass nowhere near the side of the goal. Yes, it caught him wrong footed but I think an agile keeper should still have kept it out.

Let me say Ramsdale has built up plenty of credit, which explains why he’s avoided serious criticism for the first goal. I bet he’s glad that didn’t happen on his first appearance or two.

United wouldn’t touch xhaka with a *%^@*** bargepole.

Congratulations you 2 must be on horse tranquillisers.

You watch Lacazette fluff that chance last night and think back to the mid 90s when our midfield was shocking and you just needed to get the ball up to Ian wright around the box and he would do the rest. Desperate for that clinical ruthless killer

Hilarious. I'd love to see some old posts on here and now. Mine included. I've gotten it horribly wrong a few times.

Fan: "I don’t think he’s good enough. In the last couple of years you’ve let some good midfielders go for peanuts like Scott Canham.”
Redknapp: "I let him go because young Frank’s 18 and he’s miles in front of him.”
Fan: “Well, that ain’t really true…”
Redknapp: "I’ll tell you now, without any shadow of a doubt, there will be no comparison between what Frank Lampard will achieve in football and what Scotty Canham will achieve..."
Mic. Dropped

I wouldn’t argue with that. Had he not got the first booking and had received a yellow for the second, I think we’d all be saying he got away with one. It is probably Partey being sent off for two yellows that will save the referee from criticism in Liverpool online chat rooms, and that it made no difference to the result.

Considering it was so late, the second yellow was actually a moronically stupid offence for Partey to commit.

Sad to hear about Meatloaf. He was an AntiVaxxer who died of Covid.

*%^@*** Oath. This club has been neglected for far too long. I doubt it will happen this year but next year should be a minimum target.

Agree wholeheartedly. Like nearly every red card or even yellow card we receive the question is ‘why?’. Not because of the ref by the often stupidity of the player who got it. It’s almost like Partey was so pissed at the ACN result that he went out to prove an impossible point,

Some good music in his day but if an anti Vaxxer “just because” then he took his risk and lost.

Imagine if it were a ref conspiracy rather than a player one. Oh boy Mike Dean would be in trouble. Lol

It’s brilliant watching these anti Vax loons video themselves and stick it on twitter. There’s a brilliant one going round of a sergeant at greater Manchester police booting them out of some place or other.

Agreed but who is it? Vlahovic ain’t it yet. Aubameyang could have been, Nketiah isn’t. Seems we’re still 12 months away from a fully developed Arteta squad and I wonder how long will it take before we’re up in those top places, fighting for a title again.

Honestly I don’t know all I know is that you won’t get anywhere if your best centre forward can only score 3-8 goals a year in the league.

Vlahovic has a 1 in 2 strike rate I think so he would fit the bill for sure and still has room to improve however I don’t think we will get him.

The alternative is we sign 2 strikers like a Calvert Lewin and a faster more mobile type so we have options and can mix it up, rotate etc. It’s not easy truth be told.

RIP Mr Loaf

Every time they play my preference is for Spurs to lose.

He already got his HCA

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/

Will he, won’t he? It would be interesting that’s for sure.

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... E_qTMFRH9o

been vaguely musing over it yesterday ...to be honest Decaf with yesterday's lineup ; man for man I don't think we are that inferior to Liverpool .

Where I think the difference lies in the fact Klopp with typical Germanic efficiency sends his men out all knowing exactly what their role is .
Look how seamlessly 65 year old James Milner slots in when subbed .

Until Mikel cures this tendency to sideways / back pass ad nauseum we will never improve to where we put in consistent performances .

When called on to play a forward pass we are so incredibly wayward , which leads to us defending more .

Jota's second for instance .... Martinelli slips ; was it Alexander Arnold takes a touch , Jota makes the run , Alexander hoists it onto his chest .

Where would a similar effort by us end up ... hit the linesman , into the director's box , knock over the corner flag .

Hmmm not sure about that. Their back 4 of Trent/Matip/VVD/Robertson won the champions league and Premier league. I like our back 4 but each of them are a step down from the Liverpool equivalent.
Fabinho is for me the best defensive midfielder in the league (maybe Rodri as well) Lokonga is raw and miles off him.
We all love Saka, Martinelli, Emile Smith Rowe and Ødegaard but the facts show that Jota and Firminho are still a level above and difference makers in their team.
If you have Liverpool fans the option of adding any Arsenal player in to their best starting 11 I doubt they pick any of ours yet.

Saka will likely be picked

Ahh but you miss the point I'm making , I'm not saying our mob is as good ...that's laughable .

I said not too inferior ...... what I meant was swap any of our players .... under Klopp's tutelage for a couple of months would perform just as well as the former ..
.... couple of exceptions .

Seeing as you seem focused on obituaries ... look out for mine .

Friday some old tart rings up the OP Shop where I volunteer .... " Err ahhh hello ... yes I've got a few boxes of books you can have "

They send me around , I take my trailer .... loaded 90 full apple boxes on the trailer and stashed another 8 in the boot and on the back seat .of the car

Headed home ; wheels rubbing on the guards at every bump and corner

Yesterday took them all off and sorted them . This morning loaded 73 boxes back on and dumped them in a skip at recyclers ..... recipe for a heart attack .

Fantasizing but dreaming of Fabregas as a back up midfielder coming off the bench finding Lacazette, Martinelli or others with one of his famous passes.

Anyway, hoping we pick up whomever our targets are. This serie A player's youtube highlights look good but its youtube.

All that said, fans are a bit too worried when I talk to other gooners, see forums, etc. If we were told before the season started we were given a vision of the table on January 22nd 2022, we'd be ecstatic. It's dicey right now. I'm nervous each match. A feeling I haven't had in a while. I was expecting the worse against pretty much any opposition several months ago.

There is no way rival fans could watch the Liverpool tie and not think The Arsenal are a very decent side. I'm going to query some opposition fans I know. Hear their thoughts. A few Brits I know from the old LA days. They are brutally honest about their own side as well as ours.

I was watching a very weird but good tv show called 'Euphoria' about American HS students. This song came up and it instantly reminded me of Sunday drives with my father. He had music like this on the radio. One of the best songs of the era by Gerry Rafferty along with Baker Street with what has to be the best saxophone hook in rock.

Seems Martinelli has a fan boy.

https://www.givemesport.com/1824887-liverpools-jurgen-klopp-made-sure-to-praise-gabriel-martinelli-after-20-win-vs-arsenal
Liverpool's Jurgen Klopp made sure to praise Gabriel Martinelli after 2-0 win vs Arsenal

There's also the story of Trump supporting antivaxers not being allowed into a Trump restaurant. Cries of "Trump is a fraud". Who would have guessed?

https://www.indy100.com/viral/trump-vac ... x-b1982152

Apart from saying their are a couple of exceptions, I have to agree with you kiwi. I think it’s too simplistic to list all Liverpool’s players and claim none of ours compare. There are rumours Liverpool want to buy Saka, and Klopp has talked glowingly of Martinelli more than once. Under Klopp would they get plenty of games at Liverpool? I bet they would. Ødegaard at Liverpool under Klopp would I’m sure be even better than the outstanding player he is fast becoming at Arsenal.

Who are your exceptions? Because would Xhaka or Partey under Klopp still be making the errors of judgment some accuse them of here? I bet he’d sort it out pretty damn quickly.

Ok, but having every one of your 11 best players as ‘not too inferior’ to Liverpool’s does add up to quite a gap when you look at the whole team, a gap that is currently represented in the table.
Klopp took a few years to get this team he has now, he turned over pretty much the entire squad and had the golden goose of Coutinho’s transfer- and for a while Liverpool were just getting hit after hit in the transfer market.
They are the best team for us to compare ourselves to in terms of where they were, where we were, where they are and where we want to be.

I agree that you could put Saka or Martinelli in to Liverpool’s best 11 and they wouldn’t look out of place but that’s also a lot to do with the quality they are surrounded by as well as their own quality.

So do we want a draw between Man U and West Ham? And Chelsea to beat Spurs, even though Chelsea could be dragged in to the top 4 race, I think in the long run they’ll have too much quality so better to knock spurs down

West Ham win. I'd rather fight for a 4th spot with West Ham and their much more limited resources compared to Man Utd. Second, its Man Utd. I hate them.

MU & WHU draw, Chelsea win

Chelsea win or draw is fine by me.

Interesting take on Kroenke and Usmanov. Quite plausible, especially as things have turned out.

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... qK3N1lFCCE

A draw? I don't think so. Put me down for Chelsea 8, Tottenham 1. With a late dubious penalty converted by Kane: no-one likes to see a team completely humiliated. Especially one without a trophy for a decade and a half, and a cheese room that never was.