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Post #498441  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:28 pm 
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Arteta "We will defend our club with teeth and nails. We are not going to let anybody damage our name or try to lie about things that haven’t occurred. We will make mistakes, we will put our hands up, but we will defend our club in a really strong way."
"We have already played with academy players when we already have the youngest squad in this league."
"We played against Forest when we had ten players out. We tried to play and tried to play the next game. It got to our point where we could not put a squad available to play a game. That's why we didn't play, as simple as that.

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Post #498442  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:30 pm 
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Strikers that have cost over £65m in history
Mbappe £130m
Felix £114m
Griezmann £108m
Ronaldo £105m
Lukaku £103m
Ronaldo £85m
Higuain £81m
Lukaku £76m
Suarez £74m
Osimhen £68m
Lukaku £67m

Both hits and misses in that bunch. If we spend that much we can't afford to be one of the misses.


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Post #498443  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:56 pm 
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Rich wrote:
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/arsenal-transfer-news-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-loan-offer-made-by-saudi-giants-al-nassr/
Saudi team want Aubameyang for £8m. I suspect us getting £8m and moving his £350k a week wage (which he can earn for the next 18 months £27.3 million(!) would be something that would very much appeal to Arsenal right now.

Must be a clickbait bidding war. I’ve just read that it’s £6.7m.

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Post #498444  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:30 pm 
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Xhakas yellow card being investigated. Suggestion it was deliberate by the player

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-25993200


Would explain a lot


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Post #498445  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:40 pm 
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You (understandably) missed out Anelka.

I actually thought about him - and Adebayor, who did score 24 goals the season after Henry left - but they only really had one season each when they were at that top level.
For me Ade was a real loss. Arsene picked him up for peanuts, a real bargain. A powerful striker, very hard for defenders to keep quiet, and creator of openings for others. He had it all to be one of the best - it was his attitude that let him down. If he had possessed a mind like Giroud greatness was possible. Shame.

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Post #498447  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:13 pm 
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Xhakas yellow card being investigated. Suggestion it was deliberate by the player

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-25993200


Would explain a lot

Where does it say it is a Xhaka yellow card?

Unless the FA have evidence of emails/texts or recorded conversations between the player and various people saying he will make sure he gets booked in a certain game it has to be very difficult to prove that a lot of money being dropped on a player getting booked and then that player does get booked has anything corrupt behind it.

if it is Xhaka I wouldn't have thought it is the most wild bet to have that he gets carded in any given match


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Post #498448  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:18 pm 
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Rich wrote:
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Xhakas yellow card being investigated. Suggestion it was deliberate by the player

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-25993200


Would explain a lot

Where does it say it is a Xhaka yellow card?

Unless the FA have evidence of emails/texts or recorded conversations between the player and various people saying he will make sure he gets booked in a certain game it has to be very difficult to prove that a lot of money being dropped on a player getting booked and then that player does get booked has anything corrupt behind it.

if it is Xhaka I wouldn't have thought it is the most wild bet to have that he gets carded in any given match


Not at all a mate of mine won 125 quid on bet365 other day when he got sent off.

Reported it was during the Leeds game when we had 1 booking


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Post #498449  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:47 pm 
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Rich wrote:
Strikers that have cost over £65m in history
Mbappe £130m
Felix £114m
Griezmann £108m
Ronaldo £105m
Lukaku £103m
Ronaldo £85m
Higuain £81m
Lukaku £76m
Suarez £74m
Osimhen £68m
Lukaku £67m

Both hits and misses in that bunch. If we spend that much we can't afford to be one of the misses.

The forward Ousmane Dembele at £135m looks like being a complete financial hit for Barcelona. They can’t offload him and he’s sitting it out. Serves them right, as the chickens come home to roost there.

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Post #498450  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:54 pm 
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The Xhaka yellow card v Leeds, 4-1, incident for time wasting. This, of course, doesn't necessarily mean he's guilty.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/commen ... _vs_leeds/

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Leicester one up!!


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There is a guy on twitter who does a huge amount of stat based scouting on potential Arsenal players. One of the things I like that he sometimes does if just give you the stats of various players but doesn't tell you the player. You decide who's looks like the sort of player you want.

Anyway, these are 4 Serie A strikers - in all cases the taller the bar the better that attribute is. Which striker would you want?


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Post #498453  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:25 pm 
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There is a story floating around that Vlahovic has previously signed some contract with Juventus to sign with them on a free by seeing out his current contract. Not sure if true but nothing surprises me and I’m not thinking this is a done deal. Not because our club and his club haven’t worked hard to find a deal but because of this contract. Will wait and see if there is any truth in it.

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Post #498454  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:29 pm 
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Rich wrote:
There is a guy on twitter who does a huge amount of stat based scouting on potential Arsenal players. One of the things I like that he sometimes does if just give you the stats of various players but doesn't tell you the player. You decide who's looks like the sort of player you want.

Anyway, these are 4 Serie A strikers - in all cases the taller the bar the better that attribute is. Which striker would you want?

Very interesting. Judging just by these stats I'd probably lean towards player D; high amount of goals, xG and xA says it's a player that makes things happen. High dispossessed stat could just mean it's a player that often tries to get past his defender - Saka gets dispossessed more than any other Arsenal player by a pretty big margin. Not very impressive pressing stats, but pressing is such a team thing, if you play for a team that doesn't focus too much on it your stats probably won't look great in that regard. Doesn't mean you can't be an effective presser in a different setup.


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Post #498455  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:06 pm 
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Xhakas yellow card being investigated. Suggestion it was deliberate by the player

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... s-25993200


Would explain a lot


If lots of people were to suddenly bet on one player getting a yellow card and it was just coincidence, and not spot fixing, surely that player would be Granite Xhaka, who you literally called a walking Red card :laughing7:

Also as an aside at the end of the article what on earth is this all about?

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An alleged match-fixing plot also cropped up in Ghana last summer.
Inter Allies' Ghana Premier League clash with Ashanti Gold which was at the centre of the scandal.

Inter defender Hashmin Musah intentionally scored two own goals for his already-relegated side to prevent an alleged pre-arranged result involving his team.

Musah's deliberate actions went viral across social media, having come on with 12 minutes remaining as Allies trailed 5-0, and he claimed to have received praise for his teammates after the match ended 7-0.

"After the game, my technical team commended me for spoiling the bet they had staked," Musah revealed to Kumasi FM post-match.

"I promised my coach that if he allows me to play from the bench, I will spoil the bet. And after the game, my team congratulated me."


I don’t understand what I’ve just read. They all knew about the bet and it was for a 5-0 scoreline which presumably they’d enacted on the pitch but then praised one player for ruining it by scoring 2 own goals???? Eh??


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Decaf wrote:

South Africa's trajectory in the AFCON is possibly the most ignominious of all.

They won it at the first attempt (1996). were runners up in the next tournament (1998), semi-finalists in 2000, quarterfinalists in 2002, failed to get to knockout stages in 2004, came last in their groups in both 2006 and 2008, and failed to qualify in 2010.

As a former driving instructor you will appreciate such smooth backward maneuvering :laughing7:

However they actually managed to top that in terms of wretchedness in 2012, by failing to qualify after laughably misreading the rules and playing out a draw when they needed to win. An excruciating experience. I stopped watching their televised matches after that. Life is too short.


thats an amazing run...


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Post #498457  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:17 pm 
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Tottenham are a couple of minutes away from losing to Leicester, who have been quite poor.


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Post #498458  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:25 pm 
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Incredible, Tottenham scores two goals in added time to turn it around.


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Post #498459  Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:26 pm 
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Spurs late equaliser.

never mind most important thing is they have blown their extra games without overtaking us. We have a real chance of top 4 if we can keep our players fit


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*%^@ you Leicester : weak effort at the end. I hope they plummet down the table. Gutless

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Offs .. spoke to soon. Mental

*%^@*** Leicester


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How the *%^@ did they lose that one


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We're not getting top 4. Bergwijn scores two goals in added time, it's just their season. They have the gods on their side.


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Seriously one of the worst bottle jobs I've seen. How can you be 2-1 up and then just let the opponents run right through your team to score in the 94th and 96th minute. Shocking stuff


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*%^@*** *%^@
I can't believe it.
2 1 down to win 3 2

This was a game they should have dropped points
Jammy *%^@*

As for utd second best all game but *%^@*** winning 2 0
I hate these 2 teams
Top 4 looking shaky
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Harvey Barnes
*%^@*** idiot
He square's it instead of shooting they win 3 1
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I expected both to drop points actually but that's how it is. Brentford should have been up minimally one nil first half, but 2 one on one chances with De Gea and they didn't score.

How Leicester lost that game I don't know. A set back but still lots of football to be played.

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Top 4 isn't going to end on a January night. Too much football to be played. We beat sperz and its forgotten.

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Shane that they both didn’t drop points but take solace in the fact neither really can keep this level of luck and poor performance up without being properly punished it just isn’t sustainable.

Relying on injury time winners or poor finishing from opponents just doesn’t cut it in the long run


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Rich wrote:
Shane that they both didn’t drop points but take solace in the fact neither really can keep this level of luck and poor performance up without being properly punished it just isn’t sustainable.

Relying on injury time winners or poor finishing from opponents just doesn’t cut it in the long run

Really hope you're right Rich.
That actually feels like a defeat for us.
Sickening seeing that cumt kane celebrating at the end


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Hazuki wrote:
We're not getting top 4. Bergwijn scores two goals in added time, it's just their season. They have the gods on their side.

It feels a bit like that.

They seem to win games they don’t deserve at all. Leaves you shaking your head.

Long way to go but the game at their place looks critical and will probably have a huge impact on where either team finishes


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Shane that they both didn’t drop points but take solace in the fact neither really can keep this level of luck and poor performance up without being properly punished it just isn’t sustainable.

Relying on injury time winners or poor finishing from opponents just doesn’t cut it in the long run


Exactly. Like one night in January is the end of the season. lol

It hurts, no doubt about that, I felt sick to my stomach, seeing dropped points from both but I'm not going to overreact as well. I'm sure both those sides felt the same about us with our form in the league.

I'd be more worried if either side completely dominated their games and seemed on another level.

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Shane that they both didn’t drop points but take solace in the fact neither really can keep this level of luck and poor performance up without being properly punished it just isn’t sustainable.

Relying on injury time winners or poor finishing from opponents just doesn’t cut it in the long run

There’s also the possibility that it happens so often, can it genuinely all be down to coincidence? Let me say I didn’t watch either game. But the regularity with which they play poorly but get a positive result could mean they have more about them than you want to accept.


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If the game had gone ahead at the weekend. Arteta out would probably be trending on Twitter right now and people would be saying all the silly stuff like “we have no style of play”


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Shane that they both didn’t drop points but take solace in the fact neither really can keep this level of luck and poor performance up without being properly punished it just isn’t sustainable.

Relying on injury time winners or poor finishing from opponents just doesn’t cut it in the long run

There’s also the possibility that it happens so often, can it genuinely all be down to coincidence? Let me say I didn’t watch either game. But the regularity with which they play poorly but get a positive result could mean they have more about them than you want to accept.


I think your right Bernard. They aren’t the poor side many believe. Not many “names” but There’s enough talent there to cause teams problems.


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Giroud was very underrated in my opinion.
For the 12 to 14 million we bought him for he gave us fantastic service and could never understand why he was given a hard time by some of our fans.
Very good striker albeit lack of pace but excellent technique.
He would be so good for this current team.


I liked Giroud too and see Vlahovic in a very similar mould. Similar to Soc, I'd prefer a little more pace in the central striker but maybe with Saka and Martinelli on the flanks we have enough pace and having someone taller than Lacazette as the central striker gives us a heading option in the centre. DHD's point about the defences playing against Vlahovic in the highlight reels being 'ropey' is pretty fair too and he wouldn't be afforded anywhere near that much space in the PL.

I'm still not convinced Vlahovic is the right player for the long term but having read the collective wisdom on here he would at least give us more height in the midfield and the box to keep defenders like Maquire busy.


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Hazuki wrote:
Tottenham are a couple of minutes away from losing to Leicester, who have been quite poor.


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...the regularity with which they play poorly but get a positive result could mean they have more about them than you want to accept.
Yes. Score two goals in the opening minutes and nobody calls it lucky as they do when scored at the end. The old Clough cliche of it only takes a second to score a goal should never be forgotten.

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There’s also the possibility that it happens so often, can it genuinely all be down to coincidence? Let me say I didn’t watch either game. But the regularity with which they play poorly but get a positive result could mean they have more about them than you want to accept.


I think your right Bernard. They aren’t the poor side many believe. Not many “names” but There’s enough talent there to cause teams problems.


Thought the same when Rich mentioned they keep getting lucky. He's right in saying that luck only runs so far but it also gives them time to get their act together and do it more consistently while they've already got the 'lucky' points on the board. Same with Man Utd who are still adjusting to Rangnick and tolerating Ronaldo's childish tantrums.

On top of the NLD I expect Spurs to be even more fired up with the 'injustice' of not being able to play us when our team was severely diminished and it will a tough match.


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Score two goals in the opening minutes and nobody calls it lucky as they do when scored at the end. The old Clough cliche of it only takes a second to score a goal should never be forgotten.


I'd guess that as unworthy we are of being labled lucky, that our rise from bottom of the table to legitimate top 4 contenders were littered with 'lucky Arsenal', 'referees favor Arsenal', etc. on our way up.

I certainly heard 'lucky Arsenal' almost on a weekly basis at the pub in LA during our heyday.

It's common for fans to say this, I say this. Sometimes its painfully legitimate such as referees rarely giving Man Utd a penalty at OT in previous years (if not now...I have no idea).

If these teams were so routinely lucky we wouldn't have caught them. :1laughter:

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