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Post #356561  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:35 pm 
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I was seething last night.
Just as i was against Utd.
Still pissed off today.
I’m 51. Supported this great club for 42 years and defeats still get under my skin and really hurt.
Arteta disgusts me with his negative football , cautiousness , *%^@*** ego and treating certain players like *%^@. Say what you like about Pépé but no player deserves that sort of treatment.
Just pure *%^@*** spitefulness from Arteta and we have seen it before with Saliba.
What sort of message does it send to AMN and Sambi that they have great games recently then are dropped to the bench. They then see Xhaka waltz back into the team after a LONG injury.
He is not even softly introduced from the bench. He is put STRAIGHT IN.
What sort of utter foolery is that and if you are AMN or Sambi why on earth would you want to play for this *%^@*** *%^@???
It’s like one of those movies you have seen a million times before.
We play a *%^@ team in crisis and you just know we will lose to them and give them a piggyback back up.
We play backwards and sideways awful bland football.
We go a goal up and play with fear and sit back.
It was so obvious Everton would equalise and then you start fearing a winner and hey presto , here it is!
Please Please get this fraud out. To think i was excited by his appointment but yesterday was truly the end game for me.
We will probably beat Southampton but west ham no chance on the basis of these *%^@ performances.
The season can still be rescued. Get Arteta the *%^@ out.
Step forward Graham Potter.
He has Brighton punching above their weight and playing good football.
Imagine what he could do with us.


Ok a few words on this diatribe of insanity :laughing7:

I’m not Xhakas biggest fan but I thought the manager was right to pick him last night and also for me he got a pass on the needless yellow. We Always get kicked off the park at goodison and saka got kicked so many times his ankles must be a smooth paste today

It Graham potter becomes your hero we are beyond hope. Reminds me of the Owen Coyle suggestions years ago.

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Post #356562  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:37 pm 
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Pépé on the right when Eddie goes on. Oh if looks could kill... :15laughter:


Just a gut feeling but I reckon he might be about to be sold. There’s been murmurings in the press of a swap deal and the club might be trying to force the issue


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Post #356563  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:57 pm 
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… it’s the final third lads.

I would add just a few more things we did wrong last night; non-existent press, complete inability to deal with our opponents pressing, no forward progression from midfield, attacking players barely touching the ball all game, inability to string five passes together in the opponent's half. And it's not a one-time thing, this is the way we perform more often than not.

I don't see Potter (or really anyone else available) as some sort of magical solution, but at least he gets his team to fight tooth and nail for the right to play. Something Arteta routinely fails to do with this Arsenal side.


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Post #356564  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:16 pm 
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Hazuki wrote:
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… it’s the final third lads.



I don't see Potter (or really anyone else available) as some sort of magical solution, but at least he gets his team to fight tooth and nail for the right to play. Something Arteta routinely fails to do with this Arsenal side.

Then you can’t be watching us much because we are above them in the league. How do you explain this nonsense.

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After a while it gets so divvy. If you think those kids aren’t doing their utmost you must be a massive bellend.


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Post #356565  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:31 pm 
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Then you can’t be watching us much because we are above them in the league. How do you explain this nonsense.

Because we have superior players in every single position? It's not rocket science. There's only so much a manager can do - no matter how well Arteta performs, we're not winning the league with this squad for example - but you're arguing as if there's nothing a manager can do except make good substitutions.


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Then you can’t be watching us much because we are above them in the league. How do you explain this nonsense.

Because we have superior players in every single position? It's not rocket science. There's only so much a manager can do - no matter how well Arteta performs, we're not winning the league with this squad for example - but you're arguing as if there's nothing a manager can do except make good substitutions.

I repeat you said Arteta doesn’t fight tooth and nail to get him team to play.

Most weeks saka and Smithers and others are knackered by the 70th minute as they have run themselves into the ground. Your talking *%^@ and most will know it. This isn’t a world class team thats coasting. Such nonsense


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Because we have superior players in every single position? It's not rocket science. There's only so much a manager can do - no matter how well Arteta performs, we're not winning the league with this squad for example - but you're arguing as if there's nothing a manager can do except make good substitutions.

I repeat you said Arteta doesn’t fight tooth and nail to get him team to play.

Most weeks saka and Smithers and others are knackered by the 70th minute as they have run themselves into the ground. Your talking *%^@ and most will know it. This isn’t a world class team thats coasting. Such nonsense

I suspect that what Haz means is that Potter appears to overachieve with his resources, whereas we consistently look worse than the sum of our parts.

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Post #356568  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:40 pm 
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I repeat you said Arteta doesn’t fight tooth and nail to get him team to play.

No, I said he doesn't get his team to fight tooth and nail. I'm sure Arteta does everything he can possibly think of to get the team to perform the way he wants, but it's not happening often enough. The amount we run isn't the issue, and I'm not saying the players aren't trying - I'm saying they play with a lack of the direction and purpose you see in teams who are outperforming their expectations.


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Post #356569  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:45 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
david.d wrote:
I was seething last night.
Just as i was against Utd.
Still pissed off today.
I’m 51. Supported this great club for 42 years and defeats still get under my skin and really hurt.
Arteta disgusts me with his negative football , cautiousness , *%^@*** ego and treating certain players like *%^@. Say what you like about Pépé but no player deserves that sort of treatment.
Just pure *%^@*** spitefulness from Arteta and we have seen it before with Saliba.
What sort of message does it send to AMN and Sambi that they have great games recently then are dropped to the bench. They then see Xhaka waltz back into the team after a LONG injury.
He is not even softly introduced from the bench. He is put STRAIGHT IN.
What sort of utter foolery is that and if you are AMN or Sambi why on earth would you want to play for this *%^@*** *%^@???
It’s like one of those movies you have seen a million times before.
We play a *%^@ team in crisis and you just know we will lose to them and give them a piggyback back up.
We play backwards and sideways awful bland football.
We go a goal up and play with fear and sit back.
It was so obvious Everton would equalise and then you start fearing a winner and hey presto , here it is!
Please Please get this fraud out. To think i was excited by his appointment but yesterday was truly the end game for me.
We will probably beat Southampton but west ham no chance on the basis of these *%^@ performances.
The season can still be rescued. Get Arteta the *%^@ out.
Step forward Graham Potter.
He has Brighton punching above their weight and playing good football.
Imagine what he could do with us.


Ok a few words on this diatribe of insanity :laughing7:

I’m not Xhakas biggest fan but I thought the manager was right to pick him last night and also for me he got a pass on the needless yellow. We Always get kicked off the park at goodison and saka got kicked so many times his ankles must be a smooth paste today

It Graham potter becomes your hero we are beyond hope. Reminds me of the Owen Coyle suggestions years ago.

I hope you get well soon

Thought it wouldn't be long before the self appointed *%^@ piped up.
Do one you freak , i'm not interested in your opinion.


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Hazuki wrote:
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I repeat you said Arteta doesn’t fight tooth and nail to get him team to play.

No, I said he doesn't get his team to fight tooth and nail. I'm sure Arteta does everything he can possibly think of to get the team to perform the way he wants, but it's not happening often enough. The amount we run isn't the issue, and I'm not saying the players aren't trying - I'm saying they play with a lack of the direction and purpose you see in teams who are outperforming their expectations.


He does get his team to fight tooth and nail and the ones who sit in that ground every week know it. I’d advise keeping Schtum.

Our issues lie with some glaring and obvious gaps in the side and a lack of technical proficiency in some areas. Not effort or setup or even really bad substitutions like last night.

Don’t accuse this side of a lack of effort again. Poor


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david.d wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

Ok a few words on this diatribe of insanity :laughing7:

I’m not Xhakas biggest fan but I thought the manager was right to pick him last night and also for me he got a pass on the needless yellow. We Always get kicked off the park at goodison and saka got kicked so many times his ankles must be a smooth paste today

It Graham potter becomes your hero we are beyond hope. Reminds me of the Owen Coyle suggestions years ago.

I hope you get well soon

Thought it wouldn't be long before the self appointed *%^@ piped up.
Do one you freak , i'm not interested in your opinion.


I hope you get better.


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He does get his team to fight tooth and nail and the ones who sit in that ground every week know it. I’d advise keeping Schtum.

Well, I'd advise you to find another way to deal with your frustration than trying to pick fights on the internet. Or learn how to have a discussion in good faith. However, I suspect you'll pay as much heed to my advice as I will to yours, so let's leave it at that.


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Hazuki wrote:
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He does get his team to fight tooth and nail and the ones who sit in that ground every week know it. I’d advise keeping Schtum.

Well, I'd advise you to find another way to deal with your frustration than trying to pick fights on the internet. Or learn how to have a discussion in good faith. However, I suspect you'll pay as much heed to my advice as I will to yours, so let's leave it at that.

Pick fights ? Hardly. I’m trying to stop you embarrassing yourself. Done with this


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… it’s the final third lads.

I would add just a few more things we did wrong last night; non-existent press, complete inability to deal with our opponents pressing, no forward progression from midfield, attacking players barely touching the ball all game, inability to string five passes together in the opponent's half.


Yeh, but apart from that we did ok, Haz.


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I would add just a few more things we did wrong last night; non-existent press, complete inability to deal with our opponents pressing, no forward progression from midfield, attacking players barely touching the ball all game, inability to string five passes together in the opponent's half.


Yeh, but apart from that we did ok, Haz.

Same as my reaction when I read that post. Excruciating to watch and unutterably dull.

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Yeh, but apart from that we did ok, Haz.

As long as we're talking about positives, I thought Ødegaard had a decent game. Got involved, tried to make things happen and scored a fine goal. If not for a few desperate blocks he could've gotten one or two more.


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Post #356577  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:08 pm 
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Spurs next few games in the league are Brighton away , Leicester away, Liverpool then West Ham

We have Southampton. West Ham, Leeds and Norwich. In the same period. All winnable

Spurs still have to go to old Trafford, the eitihad, king power and anfield in the league.

Man uniteds next 2 games are away. In march their fixtures are city spurs and Liverpool. They also have to come to our place in April and Arteta has only ever lost to them once last week to a gift of a Penalty

You would be foolish to suggest everything is lost to a point of disposing of a manager right now. Absolutely foolish. It’s all to play for after a run of very hard games.

Our game against spurs in January will be key. Lose that one and I think you have issues


Are you sure about that? Everton hadn't won since September 25th and were in chaos. That was as "winnable" a game as you'll get on paper. As Arseblog presciently wrote yesterday we are the kiss of life team. Just when a team is down and needs a lift along we come and oblige. That's a mental problem and starts at the top.

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Hazuki wrote:
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Yeh, but apart from that we did ok, Haz.

As long as we're talking about positives, I thought Ødegaard had a decent game. Got involved, tried to make things happen and scored a fine goal. If not for a few desperate blocks he could've gotten one or two more.


I thought he was good too. I did think he might have got his shot way a little quicker on a couple of occasions but at least he was getting into those positions. If he could add goals to his game that would be a big plus.


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Spurs next few games in the league are Brighton away , Leicester away, Liverpool then West Ham

We have Southampton. West Ham, Leeds and Norwich. In the same period. All winnable

Spurs still have to go to old Trafford, the eitihad, king power and anfield in the league.

Man uniteds next 2 games are away. In march their fixtures are city spurs and Liverpool. They also have to come to our place in April and Arteta has only ever lost to them once last week to a gift of a Penalty

You would be foolish to suggest everything is lost to a point of disposing of a manager right now. Absolutely foolish. It’s all to play for after a run of very hard games.

Our game against spurs in January will be key. Lose that one and I think you have issues


Are you sure about that? Everton hadn't won since September 25th and were in chaos. That was as "winnable" a game as you'll get on paper. As Arseblog presciently wrote yesterday we are the kiss of life team. Just when a team is down and needs a lift along we come and oblige. That's a mental problem and starts at the top.


It’s never easy at Goodison park. It feels like every game in my life I’ve ever watched there falls into the same pattern as last night. Eggy crowd, *%^@ ref that allows their players to kick us all over the place. I’ve watched last nights movie several times.

This team can beat most on their day but can also struggle on an off day. No reason to think we cant pick up more points and I’ll be there this weekend enjoying myself whilst the weirdos on the internet are undertaking autoerotic asphyxia in case we lose.


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I know he missed a sitter but I thought Nketiah was lively when he came on on the left wing. Certainly showed up both Lacazette and Aubameyang from recent games. Ran at his man, set up a chance for Ødegaard and the late one for Aubameyang and linked general play well.


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I’ll be there this weekend enjoying myself whilst the weirdos on the internet are undertaking autoerotic asphyxia in case we lose.

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New striker
Experienced creative player in the final third to support saka and Smith Rowe
New passing midfielder to help partey

Not much will change until you get those 3 in. Moan, chastise hell even set fire to yourselves lads :laughing7:

That said we can still achieve a reasonable finish despite people’s compulsive behaviour about the manager.

Clearly we need a new striker. But surely Arteta has the sole responsibility for giving minutes to Nketiah, even though everyone knows he’s on his bike soon and is arguably such a weak player?

You clearly either don’t rate or have taken a dislike to Ødegaard (I always find it difficult to distinguish which is the bigger rationale for your views), if you think an experienced creative midfielder to support Saka and Smith Rowe is such a priority. Am I missing something, but wasn’t it Arteta who wanted the £30m+ purchase of Ødegaard? I simply don’t accept Edu decided to buy him without Arteta’s full support. But you seem to defend Arteta to an almost creepy extent.

Moreover, it can only have been Arteta who wanted Xhaka to get his contract extension to 2025. What has happened to Partey since Arteta bought him? In my view Partey has been part of the problem, and I suggest other managers could get more out of him than Arteta is.

But you seem obsessed with defending Arteta as though he’s a close relative. If you don’t think Ødegaard or Xhaka are good enough, ask yourself whose responsibility it is that they’re in the team and who spent a lot to recruit Ødegaard.


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I’ll be there this weekend enjoying myself whilst the weirdos on the internet are undertaking autoerotic asphyxia in case we lose.

:9surprise:

That sort of stuff is not only deeply offensive, it’s unnecessary. It’s happened a few times now.


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Sadly I can't quite shake from my mind a performance where we control the game but don't create that much and certainly don't test Pickford, and then go 1-0 down to Everton's first shot on target - probably a scrappy header or rebound from Michael Keane from a poorly defended set piece around the 60th minute, we then throw on a load of forward players and end up losing 1-0 with just 3 shots on target.......I seriously hope I'm wrong

Not sure if it’s the done thing to quote oneself from before the match, but this didn’t feel that far off in the end. When Richarlison scored the header from the free kick it felt like it was going to be even closer to being right before that goal was disallowed.

It can’t be right that we can predict pretty accurately the type of performance we’re going to throw in even down to the sterile dominance and lack of testing their gk


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As long as we're talking about positives, I thought Ødegaard had a decent game. Got involved, tried to make things happen and scored a fine goal. If not for a few desperate blocks he could've gotten one or two more.


I thought he was good too. I did think he might have got his shot way a little quicker on a couple of occasions but at least he was getting into those positions. If he could add goals to his game that would be a big plus.

It was certainly encouraging to see him making runs in to the box and being more of a threat in the final 3rd. It’s not an ability thing, it’s a mentality thing about how he wants to affect the game. The same sort of thing happened with Emile Smith Rowe this year, he’s been challenged or is challenging himself to get more goals and even before he got his 3 in 3 recently you could see, and the stats showed he was getting in to more dangerous positions and taking more shots.

I thought in both the shots Ødegaard had blocked he should have let the ball run across his body and shoot with his left, he cut back inside and whilst that beat one defender it then allowed another to get the block. I will always continue to be exasperated by professional footballers who refuse to trust their weak foot…..or that a professional footballer even has a weak foot!


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I really want it to work for Arteta but I'm now convinced it won't. Yes, there are still holes in the squad at CM and certainly in the final third but it can also be true the manager isn't maximising what he has at his disposal. I think the problems are more three dimensional than just the manager or just the missing pieces in the team. It's a collective issue, but at some point we probably need to acknowledge that the manager could very well be a part of the malaise at the club.

I'm not going to call for his head yet, despite being really pissed off over the last couple of games, but I think unless there's a turnaround this could be his last season in charge.

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I really want it to work fro Arteta but I'm now convinced it won't. Yes, there are still holes in the squad at CM and certainly in the final third but it can also be true the manager isn't maximising what he has at his disposal. I think the problems are more three dimensional than just the manager or just the missing pieces in the team. It's a collective issue, but at some point we probably need to acknowledge that the manager could very well be a part of the malaise at the club.

I'm not going to call for his head yet, despite being really pissed off over the last couple of games, but I think unless there's a turnaround this could be his last season in charge.

I’m continuing to wonder a lack of man management skills are a problem. He now has a growing track record of alienating players and this is combined with a seeming inability to inspire players. He looks like a rookie manager.

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I really want it to work fro Arteta but I'm now convinced it won't. Yes, there are still holes in the squad at CM and certainly in the final third but it can also be true the manager isn't maximising what he has at his disposal. I think the problems are more three dimensional than just the manager or just the missing pieces in the team. It's a collective issue, but at some point we probably need to acknowledge that the manager could very well be a part of the malaise at the club.

I'm not going to call for his head yet, despite being really pissed off over the last couple of games, but I think unless there's a turnaround this could be his last season in charge.


It really shouldn’t be disregarded he’s part of the problem but what constitutes failure on his part for you?

For me to finish 8th or below really would scream to me he’s not up to it and change has to come. If he’s 5th or 6th then really can we complain?

I thought wengers project yoof was a young side but by comparison our current lot are babies and I feel that with a few more Ingredients that’s a decent recipe brewing.


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Other thing I was pondering was do you think on reflection Emery was treated unfairly at Arsenal?

He had it as hard as Mikel as he had to endure duff players on contracts we could not move. Had no say in transfer policy. He never really had the option of refreshing the squad and despite the fact we were hopeless by the time he left you can’t help think that that appointment we made after wenger was always going to be a manager sacked in no time at all.


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If we find ourselves at the end of the season losing or moving on Lacazette, Aubameyang, Xhaka, Elneny, Kolasinac, Chambers, AMN and Holding then that would be an entire full first team squad turnover from Wenger’s last game. Has any club ever turned over its entire playing staff in 4 years? That’s pretty crazy for a non oil rich or newly rich team.


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It really shouldn’t be disregarded he’s part of the problem but what constitutes failure on his part for you?

For me to finish 8th or below really would scream to me he’s not up to it and change has to come. If he’s 5th or 6th then really can we complain?

I thought wengers project yoof was a young side but by comparison our current lot are babies and I feel that with a few more Ingredients that’s a decent recipe brewing.

I think 8th or lower, as you suggest, although I would possibly suggest 7th is a failure too. We need to be back in Europe proper and I think failure to do that should see him leave. It's hard though and, by and large, I agree with your view of things, especially how as fans we're prone to over reaction and knee jerk opinions.

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Other thing I was pondering was do you think on reflection Emery was treated unfairly at Arsenal?

He had it as hard as Mikel as he had to endure duff players on contracts we could not move. Had no say in transfer policy. He never really had the option of refreshing the squad and despite the fact we were hopeless by the time he left you can’t help think that that appointment we made after wenger was always going to be a manager sacked in no time at all.

I think he was on a hiding to nothing. We stunk the place out under him but I really do hold many of the players accountable for this. They downed tools.

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I really want it to work fro Arteta but I'm now convinced it won't. Yes, there are still holes in the squad at CM and certainly in the final third but it can also be true the manager isn't maximising what he has at his disposal. I think the problems are more three dimensional than just the manager or just the missing pieces in the team. It's a collective issue, but at some point we probably need to acknowledge that the manager could very well be a part of the malaise at the club.

I'm not going to call for his head yet, despite being really pissed off over the last couple of games, but I think unless there's a turnaround this could be his last season in charge.

I’m continuing to wonder a lack of man management skills are a problem. He now has a growing track record of alienating players and this is combined with a seeming inability to inspire players. He looks like a rookie manager.

I just listened to the latest Arsecast Extra nd they mentioned this. They suggested it's almost as if there needs to be a villian within the squad at any time. Not sure I totlly agree with this as generally the players who've been alienated have been bad apples. I think the Pépé thing though is purely form based. He's been *%^@ when playing this season.

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Post #356594  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:24 pm 
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It really shouldn’t be disregarded he’s part of the problem but what constitutes failure on his part for you?

For me to finish 8th or below really would scream to me he’s not up to it and change has to come. If he’s 5th or 6th then really can we complain?

I thought wengers project yoof was a young side but by comparison our current lot are babies and I feel that with a few more Ingredients that’s a decent recipe brewing.

I think 8th or lower, as you suggest, although I would possibly suggest 7th is a failure too. We need to be back in Europe proper and I think failure to do that should see him leave. It's hard though and, by and large, I agree with your view of things, especially how as fans we're prone to over reaction and knee jerk opinions.


It’s weird because it’s as you say a multi faceted problem. Not a single issue.

Yesterday I was screaming at Arteta for not giving Pépé 30 minutes to run at Godfrey who was on a yellow. Ridiculous decision, then bringing on Tavares who hasn’t convinced away from home and all of a Sudden we are all at sea, then nketiah blah blah. Just divvy stuff

Then You go to a game be it Newcastle at home or villa on that Friday night, have a great time get home after a few beers eats and laughs and find people losing their mind on the internet about inconsequential substitution or something ? Or trying to convince everyone that the 7 matches we have won were all flukes.

It’s all got a bit tiresome


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Post #356595  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:25 pm 
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long time gooner wrote:
Darren wrote:
I really want it to work fro Arteta but I'm now convinced it won't. Yes, there are still holes in the squad at CM and certainly in the final third but it can also be true the manager isn't maximising what he has at his disposal. I think the problems are more three dimensional than just the manager or just the missing pieces in the team. It's a collective issue, but at some point we probably need to acknowledge that the manager could very well be a part of the malaise at the club.

I'm not going to call for his head yet, despite being really pissed off over the last couple of games, but I think unless there's a turnaround this could be his last season in charge.

I’m continuing to wonder a lack of man management skills are a problem. He now has a growing track record of alienating players and this is combined with a seeming inability to inspire players. He looks like a rookie manager.


The only player I could say has a genuine claim to feel alienated is probably Ainsley Maitland Nile’s who came into midfield, Did well and was dropped for the next game. He looks far more conditioned to play central midfield than Lokonga right now. He didn’t even make the bench yesterday, I mean that’s absurd. He has a right to hold a grudge imo.

I don’t really buy into the continual stewards enquiry about martinelli getting minutes and thought he was poor yesterday. Arteta changes the team and gets accused of tinkering all the time, keeps the same side and gets accused of having favourites and alienating people. Can’t win


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What place in the table is the bare minimum for Arteta to be able to keep his job?
What if he finishes mid table but we win a cup?

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TOP GUN wrote:
Yesterday I was screaming at Arteta for not giving Pépé 30 minutes to run at Godfrey who was on a yellow. Ridiculous decision, then bringing on Tavares who hasn’t convinced away from home and all of a Sudden we are all at sea, then nketiah blah blah. Just divvy stuff

You’d have to think the Tavares one was pre planned or Tierney had a knock or just being cautious with him. Strange though that Xhaka lasted the full 90.
On the Pépé thing I’m not sure I’ve seen Pépé ‘run at’ a defender who is on a yellow to try to commit him and get a 2nd yellow. Saka is the man to do that in the squad


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Rich wrote:
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Yesterday I was screaming at Arteta for not giving Pépé 30 minutes to run at Godfrey who was on a yellow. Ridiculous decision, then bringing on Tavares who hasn’t convinced away from home and all of a Sudden we are all at sea, then nketiah blah blah. Just divvy stuff

You’d have to think the Tavares one was pre planned or Tierney had a knock or just being cautious with him. Strange though that Xhaka lasted the full 90.
On the Pépé thing I’m not sure I’ve seen Pépé ‘run at’ a defender who is on a yellow to try to commit him and get a 2nd yellow. Saka is the man to do that in the squad


Pépé can run a full back 1 on 1 as equally as well especially when Saka has had his ankles turned into putty by the 70th minute.


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Post #356599  Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:35 pm 
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Apparently Spurs have a covid outbreak in their squad and are trying to get their next league game postponed. No chance should that be allowed as the precedent has already been set by not postponing our game with Brentford when we had a covid outbreak.


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TOP GUN wrote:
Rich wrote:
You’d have to think the Tavares one was pre planned or Tierney had a knock or just being cautious with him. Strange though that Xhaka lasted the full 90.
On the Pépé thing I’m not sure I’ve seen Pépé ‘run at’ a defender who is on a yellow to try to commit him and get a 2nd yellow. Saka is the man to do that in the squad


Pépé can run a full back 1 on 1 as equally as well especially when Saka has had his ankles turned into putty by the 70th minute.

How often does Pépé ever get his full back 1 v 1 and backpedaling and panicking towards the safety of his own penalty area as Pépé sways one way then the other driving towards goal all the while?


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