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Post #356481  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:53 pm 
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Sickener.

Xhaka doesn’t and can’t make the tackle because he picked up a silly yellow for a pull back earlier.

How have we lost to this shocking awful Everton team. Total lack of spirit, aggression and bravery…..double up with a dose of awful refereeing decisions and a open goal mids and there is the game


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Post #356482  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:55 pm 
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A great goal. And I'll be honest we've been absolute *%^@ and don't deserve anything from this.

But you know what he wants to do, he did it for the shot on to the bar, we just let him come inside and shoot.

By the way show me any Arsenal player that can shoot from 25 yards as Gray did then?


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A great goal. And I'll be honest we've been absolute *%^@ and don't deserve anything from this.

That's the problem. Everton were on the floor and for the taking and we give them the kiss kf life. We have been piss poor from the go. Frankly I am thinking Mikel ain't the guy.

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Post #356484  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:56 pm 
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Why are we so poor?
Why do we keep losing ground when it seemed we could go higher?

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Post #356485  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:56 pm 
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Shocking performance. That sums it all up


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And that miss .. ...... :8angers:

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Good grief. An open goal for Aubameyang.

He is dreadful.

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Post #356488  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:57 pm 
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We have managed to make one of the worst teams in the premiership look more than competitive. This performance is beyond inept and symptomatic of the manager. Like Lampard, Arteta is not up to it and managed to make a reasonably good set of players look entirely incompetent. We are the definition of how not to manage a football club. He has to go.


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Post #356489  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:57 pm 
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Typical miss from Aubameyang

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We have managed to make one of the worst teams in the premiership look more than competitive. This performance is beyond inept and symptomatic of the manager. Like Lampard, Arteta is not up to it and managed to make a reasonably good set of players look entirely incompetent. We are the definition of how not to manage a football club. He has to go.

Got to agree. He has to go.

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Post #356491  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:57 pm 
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We are such a brainless *%^@*** stupid team
Really *%^@*** stupid
Got out of jail twice and still didn't show any urgency to get a 2nd.
It was so obvious what was.to come.
The team that keeps on giving
Just play us when you are on a bad run.
Seriously *%^@ off Arteta


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Post #356492  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:58 pm 
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And in a perfect ending Aubameyang fails to get anywhere near hitting the proverbial cows arse. I need a drink.


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Post #356493  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:58 pm 
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One of our worst performances in a season where there's been plenty of them. Seems like every time we get a string of good performances and Arteta manages to build up some goodwill we revert to type and become absolutely dreadful again. Some have called us inconsistent but I disagree with that - in 15 games I count 4 or maybe 5 good performances. That's not inconsistent, that's consistently poor.


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Only start playing when it's 1 1
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Post #356495  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:00 pm 
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Hazuki wrote:
One of our worst performances in a season where there's been plenty of them. Seems like every time we get a string of good performances and Arteta manages to build up some goodwill we revert to type and become absolutely dreadful again. Some have called us inconsistent but I disagree with that - in 15 games I count 4 or maybe 5 good performances. That's not inconsistent, that's consistently poor.


I don’t believe any other “top” team ( at least that’s what we used to be) would tolerate this kind of substandard performance. Get a real manager in


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Lost 2 games in a row after leading. A lack of mental fortitude. Lack of leadership on the pitch.

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two absolutely terrible finishes at the end from Nketiah and Aubameyang. I thought Ødegaard had two very good chances that were blocked when he should have got his shot away.

All round a totally dreadful night for us. Everton are an absolute shambles, but if you want a pick me up at home just play Arsenal because we'll be so passive that the smallest little tackle will get your home fans up for it - we won't win a tackle or second ball all night, you'll get the ref on your side and you can also be awful but you'll win if you just show 10% more determination than us.


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Time for Arteta to go. Nice bloke but he's not good enough.

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We are going no where with this *%^@*** manager.
So timid as neville just pointed out


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We're continually handing the initiative to poor teams, we stand off, we're passive and we're uncommitted. When we play fast aggressive football we look ok- but we only do it in fits and starts in games. We're a completely cowardly team right now


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two absolutely terrible finishes at the end from Nketiah and Aubameyang. I thought Ødegaard had two very good chances that were blocked when he should have got his shot away.

All round a totally dreadful night for us. Everton are an absolute shambles, but if you want a pick me up at home just play Arsenal because we'll be so passive that the smallest little tackle will get your home fans up for it - we won't win a tackle or second ball all night, you'll get the ref on your side and you can also be awful but you'll win if you just show 10% more determination than us.


Ødegaard was one of the better players for us today. He ran and ran.

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We have managed to make one of the worst teams in the premiership look more than competitive. This performance is beyond inept and symptomatic of the manager. Like Lampard, Arteta is not up to it and managed to make a reasonably good set of players look entirely incompetent. We are the definition of how not to manage a football club. He has to go.

Got to agree. He has to go.

It’s a shocking performance but we are 4 points off top 4 having got many tough away games out the way now with a string of winnable games coming up.

It sucks but just need to crack on and see where we are end of season.

Felt very familiar though and what’s happened to aubameyangs finishing I don’t know


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Post #356503  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:04 pm 
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We have all seen this movie.
You all knew they would level up.
Once again sit back and do nothing then only start playing when it's 1 1.
Tonight I lost total faith in Arteta.
As for Aubameyang.
Great chance again and *%^@* it up.
I'm absolutely seething.
Just want to shout and scream


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Rich wrote:
We're continually handing the initiative to poor teams, we stand off, we're passive and we're uncommitted. When we play fast aggressive football we look ok- but we only do it in fits and starts in games. We're a completely cowardly team right now


Arteta's trademark game management. Passive and more defensive minded.

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The problem for me is that I don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel.

I can’t see how you build on this ragbag of a squad with players out of favour and mostly not good enough. As Rich as said, we are consistent as in we are consistently poor.

Was anybody surprised by this evening? I wasn’t. It fits the pattern.

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Pathetic. Anyone that thinks this lot are on the right track under this manager isn't basing it on watching them play football.


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Guess we single handedly saved Rafa's career

Those are the sort of games that do my head in. An Everton team who havent won in weeks. Devoid of confidence. Key players missing. We go one up and then go into a shell in the second half .............only start playing after they equalize....from our f..ing throwin...watch how many times we lose the ball from our throw- ins ...it's ridiculous

Add in a joke Mike Dean who should've issued two reds and I'm so aggravated. I'm starting to resent Arteta...his selection, tactics and man management

We were piss poor tonight against a team down on it's luck and we get nothing. Two trips to Lancashire in four days...twice we take the lead and both times end up with sweet f all..

I cant think of one player who deserves a shout out....maybe Tomiyasu for his attitude


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Rich wrote:
We're continually handing the initiative to poor teams, we stand off, we're passive and we're uncommitted. When we play fast aggressive football we look ok- but we only do it in fits and starts in games. We're a completely cowardly team right now

Yes. It was blindingly obvious we needed a second goal, especially as their fans would have turned on them. But instead of taking it to them and turning the screw we were sitting back wasting time when there was an eternity left to go, asking for trouble. Which we duly got.


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Got to agree. He has to go.

It’s a shocking performance but we are 4 points off top 4 having got many tough away games out the way now with a string of winnable games coming up.

It sucks but just need to crack on and see where we are end of season.

Felt very familiar though and what’s happened to aubameyangs finishing I don’t know


The trouble with that theory is this was probably one of the most winnable games we had and we still managed to *%^@ it up. We have no heart, no leaders and an entirely predictable team approach that all other teams read and absorb without difficulty.

Much as I hate to point it out, Spuds are already reaping the benefits of appointing a proper manager as did Chelsea before them. Waiting until the end of the season will only weaken us further


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It’s a shocking performance but we are 4 points off top 4 having got many tough away games out the way now with a string of winnable games coming up.

It sucks but just need to crack on and see where we are end of season.

Felt very familiar though and what’s happened to aubameyangs finishing I don’t know


The trouble with that theory is this was probably one of the most winnable games we had and we still managed to *%^@ it up. We have no heart, no leaders and an entirely predictable team approach that all other teams read and absorb without difficulty.

Much as I hate to point it out, Spuds are already reaping the benefits of appointing a proper manager as did Chelsea before them. Waiting until the end of the season will only weaken us further


Spurs have 2 natural match winners in their squad in Kane and son. Arteta doesnt. He must be ripping his hair out with aubameyangs finishing.

That said I thought the managers substitutions were inexplicable and I don’t trust Tavares at all yet in tough away games.

This team can play football but it’s a young side and very inconsistent and will get turned over every once in a while. I just want to see how it pans out now we have a run 0f home games coming up.


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Really disappointing again.

We are just so bang average and rarely a good watch, even when we win a game. Not a terrible side fundamentally but just not a very good side either, right in that middle ground of a side who can look good one minute and poor the next, often in the same game.

I mean we create so little of real substance that our forwards are basically feeding off scraps and once Aubameyang stopped converting 1 in 2 chances, which was never sustainable, we found it hard to score goals.

I thought Ødegaard was good tonight the rest were rubbish. We were lucky not to concede 4 or 5.


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It’s a shocking performance but we are 4 points off top 4 having got many tough away games out the way now with a string of winnable games coming up.

It's not just about the table though. Man Utd came second under Mourinho, but watching them play that season it was obvious they were going nowhere. We basically manage a good performance every three games, it's nowhere near good enough and it doesn't look like we're building up to something.


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Post #356513  Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:16 pm 
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1-0 up away from home with 10 minutes to go - you must see those games out, you simply cannot be a serious team if you contrive to lose from that position - especially if you're playing one of the most out of form teams in the league.

Both our last two games have been there for the taking.


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Someone needs to sort our throw ins out, we lose the ball on every single one. So often the thrower takes ages to take it because he can;t find anyone who isn't closely marked. Cost us a goal today


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but if Arteta has a single positive word to say about this performance I'm going to lose it



Well fasten your seatbelt and start popping the valiums because Arteta is a Wenger clone ...... nailed on he'll find positives

The 64% possession stat will have warped his brain into some "we controlled the game so were unlucky to lose " mode


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Lost three on the bounce away. Worst goal difference on the road to every other team bar Norwich. We’re *%^@. There is no progress. We beat the absolute dross and that’s it. Bored of it now.

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Hazuki wrote:
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It’s a shocking performance but we are 4 points off top 4 having got many tough away games out the way now with a string of winnable games coming up.

It's not just about the table though. Man Utd came second under Mourinho, but watching them play that season it was obvious they were going nowhere. We basically manage a good performance every three games, it's nowhere near good enough and it doesn't look like we're building up to something.

I’m sorry I watch us week in week out and prior to the Liverpool game we were on a strong run of form and looked promising. It’s not impossible that we can put another run together.

*%^@ substitutions aside.

If we are sacking managers 4 points off top 4 in December we are going to be going through quite a few.


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TOP GUN wrote:
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The trouble with that theory is this was probably one of the most winnable games we had and we still managed to *%^@ it up. We have no heart, no leaders and an entirely predictable team approach that all other teams read and absorb without difficulty.

Much as I hate to point it out, Spuds are already reaping the benefits of appointing a proper manager as did Chelsea before them. Waiting until the end of the season will only weaken us further


Spurs have 2 natural match winners in their squad in Kane and son. Arteta doesnt. He must be ripping his hair out with aubameyangs finishing.

That said I thought the managers substitutions were inexplicable and I don’t trust Tavares at all yet in tough away games.

This team can play football but it’s a young side and very inconsistent and will get turned over every once in a while. I just want to see how it pans out now we have a run 0f home games coming up.


TG, you are admirably loyal to Arteta but we have more than a few match winners in our team, it’s just Arteta rarely gets a tune out of them. Hazuki is right, the poor games massively outweigh the good ones. As you say, We do have inexperienced players but we also have massive experienced ones who used to be effective. They don’t seem to be now with any frequency and that must be down to the manager and his systems of play which doesn’t get the best out of them. Aubameyang is certainly out of form but that’s not the main reason for our mostly poor performance in my opinion.


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kiwipete wrote:
Well fasten your seatbelt and start popping the valiums because Arteta is a Wenger clone ...... nailed on he'll find positives

I just popped out for a smoke to calm my nerves, and it's -17 outside so I'm ready


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Think I’m leaning towards Top Gun on this one. Aubameyang is a horror show in that it’s absolutely killing the team for him to be so out of form. If it doesn’t get much better then by definition he’s finished. But honestly 2 red card challenges that aren’t even given as fouls? That tells you you aren’t safe on the pitch. Especially if you’re a young player you’re going to shrink. We weren’t good but honestly *%^@ Mike Riley, sorry, Dean. Right into the sun.

It was woeful, but I think we’ll just wait and see where we are after Christmas. If at the end of the season we’ve made too 6, which is far far from impossible I’d definitely keep Arteta. Even if we’re 7th I’d be tempted to give him these players for one more year. 8th again I think he has to go.


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