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Post #525561  Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:50 pm 
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With all the things that are bad at the moment, our inconsistent performances and general lacklustre attacking play, I have to give the club major credit once again for our recruitment this summer. Yesterday we started with five players signed in the summer and all five of them had excellent performances. Ben White is the oldest at 24. In terms of squad building it really feels like we've taken a big step forward in the last year.

Possibly helped by the departure of Raúl Sanllehí?

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Post #525562  Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:24 pm 
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Arsenal 5th highest shots per game average in the league currently. It wasn’t long ago we were way down the league for shots per game.


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Arsenal 5th highest shots per game average in the league currently. It wasn’t long ago we were way down the league for shots per game.

Yet many moan about our lacklustre attacking play. I guess a shot counts even if it’s yards off target.


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Wow, Chelsea is on a tear now. Tuchel has done wonders with this team.

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Post #525565  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:55 am 
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Well done the Palace fans for that banner v. Newcastle. Nearly puked when I saw Beckham 'promoting tourism and culture' in Qatar for a load of cash. Guy must have fallen on hard times

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Post #525566  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:13 am 
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Well done the Palace fans for that banner v. Newcastle. Nearly puked when I saw Beckham 'promoting tourism and culture' in Qatar for a load of cash. Guy must have fallen on hard times

The poor guy is down to his last $450 million. It appears even more hard up when you convert dollars into pounds sterling, simply because it’s a lower figure and some people may not always notice if numbers have a $ or £ at the front. $450m equates to a mere £327m. That’s verging on bankruptcy.

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Post #525567  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:01 am 
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Well done the Palace fans for that banner v. Newcastle. Nearly puked when I saw Beckham 'promoting tourism and culture' in Qatar for a load of cash. Guy must have fallen on hard times


It never ceases to amaze me how people who have accumulated such vast wealth are still willing to compromise everything for even more money.

Wenger a prime example who is telling the world and it’s mother a World Cup every 2 years is a great idea because he’s being paid to do so. *%^@*** hell Arsene. How much money do you need ?

Look at some of the movies Bruce Willis has made recently
? Straight to video budget rubbish yet he’s worth 250 million. Did he really need to make all these turkeys he knows he doesn’t need the money.

I saw an interview with the rap singer 50 cent where he admitted he turned down 1 million dollars to simply attend Donald Trumps inauguration because he believes “not all money is good money”. I found it remarkably astute considering he’s probably self made and the temptation to take the million dollars for a days work would be tempting.


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Post #525568  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:02 am 
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Pains me to utter these words but C'mon Man Utd.

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Post #525569  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:20 am 
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Rich wrote:
Arsenal 5th highest shots per game average in the league currently. It wasn’t long ago we were way down the league for shots per game.


Hi Rich,

Yeh, but most of them are from Thomas Partey and they have been closer to the moon than the opposition net :laughing7:


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Post #525570  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:34 am 
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come on Brentford , Westham & Man U. Man U only to protect our unbeaten season record.

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Post #525571  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:38 am 
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I’ve not seen a lot of scrutiny on £78m Sancho at Man U. No goals, no assists, no chances created. I think if he was a foreign player he’d be getting far more stick in the media.
I don’t think Ole has helped him by playing him mostly on the left when he played almost exclusively on the right for Dortmund.
Sancho’s signing (and others) are symptomatic of Man U’s recent signings, big names that they feel they ‘have’ to sign, almost easy signings but without huge consideration for the balance of the squad and team or having a clear set of tactics to suit the player


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Leeds on Tuesday in the league cup. I think we can afford to rotate and still put out a strong team to beat them.


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Post #525573  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:27 am 
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Sancho’s signing (and others) are symptomatic of Man U’s recent signings, big names that they feel they ‘have’ to sign, almost easy signings but without huge consideration for the balance of the squad and team or having a clear set of tactics to suit the player

To be fair Rich you fell into exactly the same trap when questioning Manchester United’s interest in Declan Rice. Not that long ago if my memory serves, although it wasn’t in the last few days (and I’d rather not define ‘last few days’). In my view Rice fits the current profile of what they need almost perfectly, and far better than Bellingham who I’m sure you spoke of your admiration for in the same post.


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Leeds on Tuesday in the league cup. I think we can afford to rotate and still put out a strong team to beat them.

Fully agree Rich. If anyone named what they consider Arsenal’s strongest team, I reckon you could list a side with eleven completely different players that should be good enough to win on Tuesday.


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Post #525575  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:28 am 
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Leeds on Tuesday in the league cup. I think we can afford to rotate and still put out a strong team to beat them.


I'd love to go deep into this competition. Leeds aren't pushovers.

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Thinking of watching West Ham vs Spurs and it dawned me on there are a few invincibles who have never lost to Tottenham I think. And maybe only once to Chelsea. Can't swear by it and won't research it but I think so.

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Well done the Palace fans for that banner v. Newcastle. Nearly puked when I saw Beckham 'promoting tourism and culture' in Qatar for a load of cash. Guy must have fallen on hard times

Victoria's fashion line must have taken a huge hit.

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Bernard wrote:
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Sancho’s signing (and others) are symptomatic of Man U’s recent signings, big names that they feel they ‘have’ to sign, almost easy signings but without huge consideration for the balance of the squad and team or having a clear set of tactics to suit the player

To be fair Rich you fell into exactly the same trap when questioning Manchester United’s interest in Declan Rice. Not that long ago if my memory serves, although it wasn’t in the last few days (and I’d rather not define ‘last few days’). In my view Rice fits the current profile of what they need almost perfectly, and far better than Bellingham who I’m sure you spoke of your admiration for in the same post.

For me Bellingham is a better player than Rice. If I had £80m I know which one I’d buy. I think Bellingham is on a different level technically.

I’m not sure what the ‘trap’ is that you mention? I think Rice would improve Man U but that’s only because he’s better than what they have. I’m not quite convinced he’s right up there as a top level CM yet. Sancho certainly was at the top level given his goals and assists record in Germany. It hasn’t worked out for him yet though


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Rich wrote:
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To be fair Rich you fell into exactly the same trap when questioning Manchester United’s interest in Declan Rice. Not that long ago if my memory serves, although it wasn’t in the last few days (and I’d rather not define ‘last few days’). In my view Rice fits the current profile of what they need almost perfectly, and far better than Bellingham who I’m sure you spoke of your admiration for in the same post.

For me Bellingham is a better player than Rice. If I had £80m I know which one I’d buy. I think Bellingham is on a different level technically.

I’m not sure what the ‘trap’ is that you mention? I think Rice would improve Man U but that’s only because he’s better than what they have. I’m not quite convinced he’s right up there as a top level CM yet. Sancho certainly was at the top level given his goals and assists record in Germany. It hasn’t worked out for him yet though

The trap is that you were ignoring the point that Rice is exactly what they need to a bigger extent than Bellingham. Ipso facto, Rice would improve them the most.


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https://twitter.com/footyaccums/status/ ... 56162?s=21
From yesterday, and why I think Bellingham is a class above Declan Rice.


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Post #525581  Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:05 pm 
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For me Bellingham is a better player than Rice. If I had £80m I know which one I’d buy. I think Bellingham is on a different level technically.

I’m not sure what the ‘trap’ is that you mention? I think Rice would improve Man U but that’s only because he’s better than what they have. I’m not quite convinced he’s right up there as a top level CM yet. Sancho certainly was at the top level given his goals and assists record in Germany. It hasn’t worked out for him yet though

The trap is that you were ignoring the point that Rice is exactly what they need to a bigger extent than Bellingham. Ipso facto, Rice would improve them the most.

Ok, I can see that a true defensive mid might serve Man U better than a type of mid Bellingham is but I just think Bellingham is so good that I’d be far more worried if Man U got Bellingham than Rice. I think a midfield of Bellingham and Fred is better than Rice and Fred.

Also I’m not sure what the correlation is between the rice/Bellingham conversation and me saying there has been a lack of scrutiny on Sancho not starting life well at Man U. Other than Sancho and Bellingham both played for Dortmund but I’m not sure how that is relevant to the points being discussed?


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I think Sancho is what Man U have needed, most Man U fans I know have been crying out for a proper right winger in their team, even back to when they signed Sanchez from us a few were saying 'nice signing but he plays on the left, where is the right winger'. The problem Man U have is they are playing Greenwood on the right so have to accommodate Sancho on the left, now they have Rashford coming back who is best on the left. Greenwood has the potential to end up as the main centre-forward but the ego signing of Ronaldo will stop that this season.
Ronaldo will win games for them, and has done already, and there will be those silly stories like all the players now dodging pudding because Ronaldo did, but I don't think he's a good signing for them when you weigh everything up.

The thing with Man U was when was the last time they signed a player where you thought, that's interesting, they've done some serious homework and thinking there? Their transfer policy is like a 12 year old kid of Fifa, it doesn't mean they aren't good players or won't improve them. I thought Maguire and Wan-Bissaka were particularly good examples of this. For £130m combined I really think they could have done a lot better.


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Ok, I can see that a true defensive mid might serve Man U better than a type of mid Bellingham is but I just think Bellingham is so good that I’d be far more worried if Man U got Bellingham than Rice. I think a midfield of Bellingham and Fred is better than Rice and Fred.

Also I’m not sure what the correlation is between the rice/Bellingham conversation and me saying there has been a lack of scrutiny on Sancho not starting life well at Man U. Other than Sancho and Bellingham both played for Dortmund but I’m not sure how that is relevant to the points being discussed?

The correlation is that you feel their recent signings are, to quote you verbatim, “without huge consideration for the balance of the squad and team”. In my view Rice would be the most obvious replacement for McTominay. Whereas for me Bellingham would be a more obvious replacement for Pogba or Fernandez rather than for McTominay.

In my opinion, Rice instead of McTominay would represent a more significant improvement than Bellingham instead of McTominay, when they already have Pogba and Fernandez to put in their team.


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come on Brentford , Westham & Man U. Man U only to protect our unbeaten season record.


First two yes but I'd like Liverpool to win. Manure are far bigger rivals for a Europa or, being very optimistic here, 4th place. The less they win the better.

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come on Brentford , Westham & Man U. Man U only to protect our unbeaten season record.

First two yes but I'd like Liverpool to win. Manure are far bigger rivals for a Europa or, being very optimistic here, 4th place. The less they win the better.

That’s a very good point Gunfire. We also have to remember that we’re still a week away from the end of October. If it wasn’t for our friend from across the Atlantic mentioning it so much, there would be many games to go before I’d even give Liverpool going the season undefeated a second thought.


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The 'Ammers are 'appy tonight. :58big-emoticons:

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Way too early in the season to start worrying about unbeaten records. We're 8 games in, Liverpool will lose at some point, but I hope they absolutely smash Man Utd today.


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Incredible to see the amount of money Man Utd have spent on this squad to try and fight for the title, and still start with two central midfielders who doesn't belong in a top 6 club.


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Man Utd missed a great chance to be 1 up and in a minute or two later down a goal. The miss at that range for Man Utd was unforgivable in such a big game. Nerves maybe.

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Hazuki wrote:
Way too early in the season to start worrying about unbeaten records. We're 8 games in, Liverpool will lose at some point, but I hope they absolutely smash Man Utd today.

2-0 already. The worry might be that it gets so embarrassing that they give Ole the chop and get a real manager in.


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Hazuki wrote:
Way too early in the season to start worrying about unbeaten records. We're 8 games in, Liverpool will lose at some point, but I hope they absolutely smash Man Utd today.

2-0 already. The worry might be that it gets so embarrassing that they give Ole the chop and get a real manager in.

Was thinking the same! It's a fine line between wanting them to get smashed and wanting Ole to remain in charge because they're going nowhere under him. Such a poor team, only saved by having a couple of absolute elite players.


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Hazuki wrote:
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2-0 already. The worry might be that it gets so embarrassing that they give Ole the chop and get a real manager in.

Was thinking the same! It's a fine line between wanting them to get smashed and wanting Ole to remain in charge because they're going nowhere under him. Such a poor team, only saved by having a couple of absolute elite players.

And now it's 3. If I was a Glazer I'd be on the phone to Antonio Conte by now.


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At this rate we might go past them on goal difference. :icon_mrgreen1:

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Stop stop, he's dead already


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Hazuki wrote:
Stop stop, he's dead already

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Hazuki wrote:
Way too early in the season to start worrying about unbeaten records. We're 8 games in, Liverpool will lose at some point, but I hope they absolutely smash Man Utd today.

2-0 already. The worry might be that it gets so embarrassing that they give Ole the chop and get a real manager in.

Yes that's a worry. Conte is reportedly hovering the wings.

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Hazuki wrote:
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2-0 already. The worry might be that it gets so embarrassing that they give Ole the chop and get a real manager in.

Was thinking the same! It's a fine line between wanting them to get smashed and wanting Ole to remain in charge because they're going nowhere under him. Such a poor team, only saved by having a couple of absolute elite players.

Nah. There's no fine line here for me. This is far too enjoyable. Another four from Liverpool in the second half would be super.

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Hazuki wrote:
Was thinking the same! It's a fine line between wanting them to get smashed and wanting Ole to remain in charge because they're going nowhere under him. Such a poor team, only saved by having a couple of absolute elite players.

Nah. There's no fine line here for me. This is far too enjoyable. Another four from Liverpool in the second half would be super.


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At this rate we might go past them on goal difference. :icon_mrgreen1:

Still on course. :42laughter:

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Wait a minute. The comeback's on :laughing7:

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