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Post #364921  Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:48 am 
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A super computer has predicted the final Premier League placings at the end of the season. It makes Chelsea title winners by ten points, has Watford surviving and Arsenal in thirteenth place. If Arsenal finish thirteenth after the money spent in the transfer market and the talent coming through the youth academy, I think Arteta will be getting his P45 in a plain brown envelope as soon as the season ends.

I went through the strength of the overall squad fairly recently as well the first team. Arsenal should get a Europa League place in my view.

Myself, I suspect the anticipated table was put together by the first electric toothbrush ever made that is now not only out of date but worn out. A super computer? Yeah right. I’ve had pocket calculators more ‘super’.

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Predicts we're getting just 1 more away point this season.

That's a seriously pessimistic toothbrush.

Was the super computer some of the sky commentators, on the turps, writing down where they hope teams will finish.

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Noa Lang for Pepé in January.

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Football London is an absolutely shite website. It's pure clickbait.

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Man U will have to play their 3rd and 4th choice CB pair for the next couple of games. £60m combined Bailly and Lindelof. Reading the media it’s like the excuses are already lined up for Man U if they don’t win.


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Football London is an absolutely shite website. It's pure clickbait.

Not the only outlet this Noa thing showed. Pain in the Arsenal had it 2 days ago. Reported only doesn't mean it happens obviously.

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From a Palace forum:

If Xhaka is still suspended. Draw 1-1.

If Xhaka plays. We win 3-1.

Most overrated player in the PL by far.

Although somehow he looked decent this summer for Switzerland.

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If Xhaka is still suspended. Draw 1-1.

If Xhaka plays. We win 3-1.

Most overrated player in the PL by far.

Although somehow he looked decent this summer for Switzerland.

Those Palace fans are a bit out of touch seeing as Xhaka has been ruled out injured until the New Year


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Very please to see Leicester beat Man U 4-2. At 1-1 I thought this was going to be another get out of jail late goal from Man U, a moment of individual skill papering over the cracks of another weak performance and even weaker managerial tactics. I wrote a while back that I felt a lot of last season Man U kept sneaking points even when they played badly and it was annoying, the temptation was to brand them lucky (which I'm sure I did many times) but the reality is that they still have some very very good players who are capable of that individual moment to bail them out of games, and they have a lot of players who are willing to try something, be that shooting on site or dribbling aggressively in the box so things can happen. My opinion of Ole hasn't changed, the guy is definitely out of his depth, clearly the weakest of the top 4 managers and as much stick as Arteta takes there is no chance in a million years I'd swap him for Ole!


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Just noticed that we're the friday game next week, meaning we play monday then friday. Shouldn't be a problem for us as we have players used to playing twice a week but our opponents on friday are Villa who will have 52 hours more to prepare for the game - kind of takes away our advantage of not being in Europe this year because that's the kind of extra prep time teams get over teams with european football


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They may be but their view on Xhaka is the take away from it. lol

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Yeah Leicester. Hope Liverpool loses soon and put my annual angst to bed.

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Man U have 2 wins in 7 and both are those wins we’re last minute winners having been outplayed. The longer Ole stays as their manager the better. Most opposition fans would say the same and that should be pretty deafening for them.


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After tomorrow’s games we play twice before anyone else, both games at home. 6 points from those 2 games would have us probably in 4/5th. Need to take advantage of these games


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I don't know many hard core Man Utd fans but the few I know what OGS out. One guy said the board is just waiting for an excuse that everyone can accept. Everytime he gets a bad run of games, he said OGS pulls a big win out of his Arsenal and saves his job.

They think the job is way too big for him. He wants either a big name manager or Neville if they stay inside the club. But prefers going outside.

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I don't know many hard core Man Utd fans but the few I know what OGS out. One guy said the board is just waiting for an excuse that everyone can accept. Everytime he gets a bad run of games, he said OGS pulls a big win out of his Arsenal and saves his job.

They think the job is way too big for him. He wants either a big name manager or Neville if they stay inside the club. But prefers going outside.

He’s totally out of his depth. He played a team yesterday with Ronaldo, Greenwood, Sancho, Fernandes and Pogba. I don’t think any of them work hard without the ball and they can’t press. Add in that the defensive shield is Matic who is so immobile and slow. It’s a team that’s been put together at huge expense and yes when they face a team equally as disorganised off the ball they will steamroller them with their talent but plenty more teams will turn them over or give them a helluva game simply by being bang on it without the ball


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Man U have 2 wins in 7 and both are those wins we’re last minute winners having been outplayed. The longer Ole stays as their manager the better. Most opposition fans would say the same and that should be pretty deafening for them.

Morning Rich. Must admit I’m confused by your comment about being pleased Manchester United were beaten by Leicester (in post 536355) and then shortly after (in post 536359) you say the longer OGS stays in post the better, which I agree with. In my view the word ‘contradictory’ could have been invented to describe your posts 536355 and 536359.

Myself, while I don’t want Manchester United to go on a winning run that brings them success or trophies, I am happy to see them winning enough games to keep OGS in his job. I don’t dislike Leicester but I’ve no affinity with them. I would have felt perfectly comfortable with Manchester United beating them yesterday.


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Germany has some talented young players coming through in the next generation. Florian Wirtz plays for Bayer Leverkusen, 18 years old, forward, 6 goals and 5 assists in 8 games so far this season. Already has 4 caps for the senior national team.

Also worth keeping an eye on Kameldeen Sulemana, young Rennes winger who tore PSG apart at the weekend. Absolute pace to burn.

We're going to need a bit of an overhaul in our strikers/forwards soon. With the likes of Saka/Emile Smith Rowe/Ødegaard seemingly cemented for the long term it will be important to get someone in to compliment them, for me that means blistering pace. I'd much rather we go for a younger forward with great athletic ability and pace than a Giroud type (not a dig at Giroud btw).


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Man U have 2 wins in 7 and both are those wins we’re last minute winners having been outplayed. The longer Ole stays as their manager the better. Most opposition fans would say the same and that should be pretty deafening for them.

Morning Rich. Must admit I’m confused by your comment about being pleased Manchester United were beaten by Leicester (in post 536355) and then shortly after (in post 536359) you say the longer OGS stays in post the better, which I agree with. In my view the word ‘contradictory’ could have been invented to describe your posts 536355 and 536359.

Myself, while I don’t want Manchester United to go on a winning run that brings them success or trophies, I am happy to see them winning enough games to keep OGS in his job. I don’t dislike Leicester but I’ve no affinity with them. I would have felt perfectly comfortable with Manchester United beating them yesterday.

Haha, well I don't think that single defeat will get Ole the sack. I said I was pleased because it was another poor Man U performance for which they deserved to be punished as they have an annoying ability to squeeze undeserved wins from such performances. Then the comment about keeping Ole is because I don't think they'll challenge anything with him there. So I wouldn't necessarily say I'm contradicting myself just hoping for that fine line between Man U getting their comeuppance but still retaining faith in Ole - similar to yourself from what you've posted


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Arsenal twitter posted this our 49th unbeaten game. 3-1 win v Villa at home. Watch the second Arsenal goal and see how quickly and easily we moved the ball from defence to midfield, lethal and clinical. However, the team was very good at doing this but the premier league is a much better league now than it was back then. Very few teams in the league would let this play happen now - unopposed line-breaking passing with a nice high line for a deadly striker.

There was a tipping point maybe about 6 years or so ago (as my best guess) where the TV money in the prem went astronomical, far superseding match day revenue. Of course the rich got very rich but it also meant that even teams at the bottom of the prem could easily outspend all but maybe 15 or so teams in the whole of the rest of Europe. You had teams at the bottom of the league being able to spend £30m on players, not all with great success but there are some very good players now in the lower parts of the league. I rarely see this sort of easy to play against set up that was often the case in 2003-4, and this isn't to downplay how good the invincibles were but the caliber of teams from 6th-14th is miles better today


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https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/1449447238757982214?s=20

Arsenal twitter posted this our 49th unbeaten game. 3-1 win v Villa at home. Watch the second Arsenal goal and see how quickly and easily we moved the ball from defence to midfield, lethal and clinical. However, the team was very good at doing this but the premier league is a much better league now than it was back then. Very few teams in the league would let this play happen now - unopposed line-breaking passing with a nice high line for a deadly striker.

There was a tipping point maybe about 6 years or so ago (as my best guess) where the TV money in the prem went astronomical, far superseding match day revenue. Of course the rich got very rich but it also meant that even teams at the bottom of the prem could easily outspend all but maybe 15 or so teams in the whole of the rest of Europe. You had teams at the bottom of the league being able to spend £30m on players, not all with great success but there are some very good players now in the lower parts of the league. I rarely see this sort of easy to play against set up that was often the case in 2003-4, and this isn't to downplay how good the invincibles were but the caliber of teams from 6th-14th is miles better today


Thanks for posting the Villa game clip. One of our great games imo. Totally destroyed Villa that day even though, completely against run of play they went goal up. Recall very clearly when it was 3-1 that I couldn’t imagine anything would ever change. Ho hum.
I think, a couple of weeks later, I saw a DVD of game on sale for £10 outside Arsenal tube and, to my great regret, was in a rush and didn’t buy it. Never saw DVD again but still often think and talk bout that game. A wonderful afternoon.


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Very few teams in the league would let this play happen now - unopposed line-breaking passing with a nice high line for a deadly striker.


Agreed. The passing was ridiculously easy. Each time our players were able to turn and run in the opponents half. Very few if any Prem teams would allow that today.

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. So I wouldn't necessarily say I'm contradicting myself just hoping for that fine line between Man U getting their comeuppance but still retaining faith in Ole - similar to yourself from what you've posted


Neither did I in the spirit of what you wrote...oh well. lol

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. So I wouldn't necessarily say I'm contradicting myself just hoping for that fine line between Man U getting their comeuppance but still retaining faith in Ole - similar to yourself from what you've posted

Neither did I in the spirit of what you wrote...oh well. lol

Rich said he was pleased United lost at Leicester then implied the longer OGS stays in post the worse it’ll be for them. While I agree yesterday’s result won’t be enough to get him the sack, it’s obvious that, added to other poor results, will together contribute to him eventually losing his job.

And what makes you hypocritical American is calling other people a troll. You had to get involved, didn’t you? Even though you lack the courage to include my post in the quote.


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This series of games before the next international break is where Arteta will need to demonstrate progress. Three home games and Leicester away. 10 points will be par for course I would have thought.

The games that follow up to New Year have some difficult games.

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This series of games before the next international break is where Arteta will need to demonstrate progress. Three home games and Leicester away. 10 points will be par for course I would have thought.

The games that follow up to New Year have some difficult games.

In the last couple of weeks, Man United have played two of those same fixtures - at home to Villa and away to Leicester - and lost them both. Three wins and a draw would be nice, but 'par for the course' probably makes it sound a fraction easier than it is.

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This series of games before the next international break is where Arteta will need to demonstrate progress. Three home games and Leicester away. 10 points will be par for course I would have thought.

The games that follow up to New Year have some difficult games.

In the last couple of weeks, Man United have played two of those same fixtures - at home to Villa and away to Leicester - and lost them both. Three wins and a draw would be nice, but 'par for the course' probably makes it sound a fraction easier than it is.

If we are to be in with a shout of Europa League next season I think we must win these games at home. Every team has some period of really poor play and drops points. We will have some hard games after this period. I need to see some real consistent improvement and now is the time to deliver. Spurs was one step forward and Brighton one back after less than convincing performances against Norwich and Burnley. Tactically I will watch with a lot of interest.

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It will be 3am for me when Arsenal kicks off against Palace today. Hope the team play fast and furious football to keep me awake.

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I'm hoping my feed shows the crowd reaction when Vieira enters the grounds. The only time I can think of when he appeared after he left was our fantastic run to the final in the CL. Didn't Pires (of all people) pick his pocket that set up a goal? He was at Juve I think.

Other than that has Vieira been as part of the opposition?

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...and I wouldn't be suprised if Henry, Pires or any other invincible is in attendance.

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Moyes is continuing a bang up job at West Ham. He's continued the great form from last season. Always liked him. Felt badly for his stint at Man Utd even though I was happy to see them implode. I wish it had been someone else.

He might get another bite at a big club apple if he keeps punching above his weight class.

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Two wins in our two home games puts us in the top 4. Others will have games in hand but it would be a significant marker and turnaround.

Of course last year we only took 1 point from these next two fixtures so we need to play well


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George Graham interview in fourfourtwo this month, spotted an interesting quote as Graham describes the system of his back 4. He said he did sessions where he would have Seaman, the back 4 and a holding mid and they would be up against the youth team, the youth team always had the ball and the back 4 just had to move as a unit. They weren’t allowed to go in to their own box because that was Seaman’s area. The offsides flowed.
Graham also said “we always played in an arc, so the two centre halves would be organising the offside all the time, when we had the ball Dixon would make a run and then the back 4 became a back 3….”

So Graham was doing this before Pep and before Arteta


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George Graham interview in fourfourtwo this month, spotted an interesting quote as Graham describes the system of his back 4. He said he did sessions where he would have Seaman, the back 4 and a holding mid and they would be up against the youth team, the youth team always had the ball and the back 4 just had to move as a unit. They weren’t allowed to go in to their own box because that was Seaman’s area. The offsides flowed.
Graham also said “we always played in an arc, so the two centre halves would be organising the offside all the time, when we had the ball Dixon would make a run and then the back 4 became a back 3….”

So Graham was doing this before Pep and before Arteta


I've heard it wasn't just the alcoholism that did Clough in but football had progressed past him and he didn't change enough it all.

Bung scandal aside, could the same criticism be made of Graham?

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Two wins in our two home games puts us in the top 4. Others will have games in hand but it would be a significant marker and turnaround.

Of course last year we only took 1 point from these next two fixtures so we need to play well


The palace forums seem to think they can nick a point without much of a problem, even nick a win if the planets align. I get the feeling they are a bit too exuberant about their present form.

Anyway, Palace and Villa will both be tough to beat. I can see winning one and drawing one. Two draws wouldn't raise an eyebrow on me either.

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Wonder what post this was about? A reaction to 536370 perhaps? What other possibility is there? Because if it was 536370, it proves you must read my posts, so haven’t blocked me, after all. Having said that, you came close to revealing that a while back with your ‘next post’ reaction to one of my replies to Pod (or is it Pode)? Sure, you didn’t actually quote that post, like you haven’t today. But in both cases, it’s hard to see what else you could have been reacting to and I suspect you realised that as you edited the one a while back.


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Wonder what post this was about? A reaction to 536370 perhaps? What other possibility is there? Because if it was 536370, it proves you must read my posts, so haven’t blocked me, after all. Having said that, you came close to revealing that a while back with your ‘next post’ reaction to one of my replies to Pod (or is it Pode)? Sure, you didn’t actually quote that post, like you haven’t today. But in both cases, it’s hard to see what else you could have been reacting to and I suspect you realised that as you edited the one a while back.


Don't know why you bother Bernard.

AG is so far up his own backside, he meets himself on the way out.

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£90m for Ox, Iwobi and Willock has been really good business for Arsenal. Young and homegrown always sells well in the premier league.


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Colin Powell, military leader and first Black US secretary of state, dies after complications from Covid-19

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With the sole exception of the Iraq war lie (and it was a doozy), he's one of the rare Republicans with some sense of honor and decency. He redeemed himself to some extent post Bush years. He supported Obama over McCain (after he choose that looney Sarah Palin), and he supported Hillary over Trump. This cost him his place in the party. His 'Powell Doctrine' (never fight a war that doesn't have popular support , it has to be winnable and an exit strategy) still has some lingering sentiment.

One of the few Republicans I liked because he had some integrity.

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