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Darren · **#353921**

Check what the head of the Road Haulage Association says, then get back to us.

https://www.channel4.com/news/shortage-of-uk-lorry-drivers-critical-says-road-haulage-association

You’re quite mad. The reason it’s happening is the effects have been gradual. It’s only going to get worse.

Still thank god my banana’s can now be straight.

Rich · **#353922**

Seen a bit of fuss being made about Marcus Alonso now not taking the knee. Players who now don’t take the knee generally do so because they say it’s lost it’s impact. Alonso instead stands and points to the anti racism badge on his sleeve. Surely the very fact Alonso is doing something different is drawing attention (more attention) in the media and therefore keeping the anti-racism as a big focus. In a way, by doing something different it is having a greater impact - in terms of exposure and keeping it relevant - that just taking the knee with everyone else.

Rich · **#353923**

Wat he’d some highlights of the Brentford v Liverpool game and saw Toney win plenty of headers against Matip and Van Dijk.

Darren · **#353924**

Rich wrote:

Wat he’d some highlights of the Brentford v Liverpool game and saw Toney win plenty of headers against Matip and Van Dijk.

They’re a fun side to watch right now.

Darren · **#353925**

Rich wrote:

Seen a bit of fuss being made about Marcus Alonso now not taking the knee. Players who now don’t take the knee generally do so because they say it’s lost it’s impact. Alonso instead stands and points to the anti racism badge on his sleeve. Surely the very fact Alonso is doing something different is drawing attention (more attention) in the media and therefore keeping the anti-racism as a big focus. In a way, by doing something different it is having a greater impact - in terms of exposure and keeping it relevant - that just taking the knee with everyone else.

He never spoke to his black team mates about his stance apparently which I find quite odd.

TOP GUN · **#353926**

bubblechris wrote:

Compimenmts of the Eastern Cyprus Forum:

"Petrol tanker drivers have an ADR qualification as well as a HGV licence. They need this for them to drive petrol tanker lorries.
There is a shortage of HGV drivers. That's a true fact.
However HGV drivers cannot drive a petrol Tanker lorry without having an ADR qualification.
The UK had ADR drivers last week. NOTHING repeat NOTHING changed much in a week. Maybe some holiday or some sickness but not, I doubt a dramatic change.
The ADR drivers that were driving last week are still driving this week delivering fuel. So nothing has changed.
The petrol panic we are now experiencing is all down too media hype.
It's not because of brexit because all the EU drivers went back to Europe. Which is some of the reasons being banded about.
These EU HGV driver's, left months ago, and yet the country was still getting fuel without problems up until today.
So what's changed? Nothing !!

What a div :14laughter:

The governments solution is to offer temporary visas to HGV drivers from Europe. If the solution they are pursuing is to undo parts of Brexit then how can the problem not be Brexit! :laughing7:

There simply isn’t enough haulage capacity in the country anymore because of Brexit. The petrol stuff will get sorted but there will be other issues about lack of availability of goods to follow.

Decaf · **#353927**

bubblechris wrote:

Compimenmts of the Eastern Cyprus Forum:

Really?

I'm trying to think of a more absurd and Pythonesque sounding news source, but I can't.

Decaf · **#353928**

TOP GUN wrote:

bubblechris wrote:

Compimenmts of the Eastern Cyprus Forum:

"Petrol tanker drivers have an ADR qualification as well as a HGV licence. They need this for them to drive petrol tanker lorries.
There is a shortage of HGV drivers. That's a true fact.
However HGV drivers cannot drive a petrol Tanker lorry without having an ADR qualification.
The UK had ADR drivers last week. NOTHING repeat NOTHING changed much in a week. Maybe some holiday or some sickness but not, I doubt a dramatic change.
The ADR drivers that were driving last week are still driving this week delivering fuel. So nothing has changed.
The petrol panic we are now experiencing is all down too media hype.
It's not because of brexit because all the EU drivers went back to Europe. Which is some of the reasons being banded about.
These EU HGV driver's, left months ago, and yet the country was still getting fuel without problems up until today.

So what's changed? Nothing !!

What a div :14laughter:

The governments solution is to offer temporary visas to HGV drivers from Europe. If the solution they are pursuing is to undo parts of Brexit then how can the problem not be Brexit! :laughing7:

There simply isn’t enough haulage capacity in the country anymore because of Brexit. The petrol stuff will get sorted but there will be other issues about lack of availability of goods to follow.

One just knew after the first double exclamation mark that we would soon be hearing about sheep and how awful the media is.

Decaf · **#353929**

Darren wrote:

Rich wrote:

Seen a bit of fuss being made about Marcus Alonso now not taking the knee. Players who now don’t take the knee generally do so because they say it’s lost it’s impact. Alonso instead stands and points to the anti racism badge on his sleeve. Surely the very fact Alonso is doing something different is drawing attention (more attention) in the media and therefore keeping the anti-racism as a big focus. In a way, by doing something different it is having a greater impact - in terms of exposure and keeping it relevant - that just taking the knee with everyone else.

He never spoke to his black team mates about his stance apparently which I find quite odd.

Even if it is well meant, it is very egotistical and precious, and misses the point about solidarity.

old man of hoy · **#353930**

Rich wrote:

Latest in the line of jaw dropping decisions, in the Man U v villa game Mginn knocks it past Maguire on the halfway line and has 50 yards of space he’s about to run in to to potentially have a 1 v 1 vs de Gea, maguire clearly puts out his arms to drag Mginn down. Some refs might even see it as a red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity- I think Koscielny and Xhaka have both had refs for half way line fouls - it’s a certain yellow. Maguire doesn’t even get pinged for the foul. It honestly defies belief

Yes that one really does take some explaining.

Gaz from Oz · **#353931**

old man of hoy wrote:

Rich wrote:

Latest in the line of jaw dropping decisions, in the Man U v villa game Mginn knocks it past Maguire on the halfway line and has 50 yards of space he’s about to run in to to potentially have a 1 v 1 vs de Gea, maguire clearly puts out his arms to drag Mginn down. Some refs might even see it as a red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity- I think Koscielny and Xhaka have both had refs for half way line fouls - it’s a certain yellow. Maguire doesn’t even get pinged for the foul. It honestly defies belief

Yes that one really does take some explaining.

I think there is an exemption that reads: at Old Trafford, since the days of Ferguson the usual rules do not apply to Manchester United players. Referees are not to do anything to upset the club.

Ash · **#353932**

old man of hoy wrote:

Rich wrote:

Latest in the line of jaw dropping decisions, in the Man U v villa game Mginn knocks it past Maguire on the halfway line and has 50 yards of space he’s about to run in to to potentially have a 1 v 1 vs de Gea, maguire clearly puts out his arms to drag Mginn down. Some refs might even see it as a red card for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity- I think Koscielny and Xhaka have both had refs for half way line fouls - it’s a certain yellow. Maguire doesn’t even get pinged for the foul. It honestly defies belief

Yes that one really does take some explaining.

I don’t think they showed it on motd at all. They lost which was the bigger story. I guess them also getting the benefit of dodgy decisions doesn’t scan with that.

Ash · **#353933**

So Xhaka back in the starting line up or no?

Decaf · **#353934**

Ash wrote:

So Xhaka back in the starting line up or no?

No. But I would certainly understand if Arteta played Xhaka and Partey together.

Gunfire · **#353935**

Decaf wrote:

Darren wrote:

He never spoke to his black team mates about his stance apparently which I find quite odd.

Even if it is well meant, it is very egotistical and precious, and misses the point about solidarity.

He's spot on. Hjgh time that stupid virtue signalling was canned. Achieved nothing.

Zed · **#353936**

[at1.

Darren wrote:

Rich wrote:

Seen a bit of fuss being made about Marcus Alonso now not taking the knee. Players who now don’t take the knee generally do so because they say it’s lost it’s impact. Alonso instead stands and points to the anti racism badge on his sleeve. Surely the very fact Alonso is doing something different is drawing attention (more attention) in the media and therefore keeping the anti-racism as a big focus. In a way, by doing something different it is having a greater impact - in terms of exposure and keeping it relevant - that just taking the knee with everyone else.

He never spoke to his black team mates about his stance apparently which I find quite odd.

Then there's Wilfried Zaha , who's been mentioned on here before as he won't take the knee.

Rich · **#353937**

Decaf wrote:

Ash wrote:

So Xhaka back in the starting line up or no?

No. But I would certainly understand if Arteta played Xhaka and Partey together.

I think Xhaka will come straight back in. I don’t necessarily agree with it but I’m sure Arteta will start him

Rich · **#353938**

Xhaka starts. Pépé benched. Looks like it will be Saka on the right and smith Rowe on the left, Ødegaard central

Decaf · **#353939**

Rich wrote:

Decaf wrote:

No. But I would certainly understand if Arteta played Xhaka and Partey together.

I think Xhaka will come straight back in. I don’t necessarily agree with it but I’m sure Arteta will start him

Xhaka fits quite well into that formation. Not at bad selection actually.

socrates · **#353940**

I hope he's got it right with Xhaka.

My concern is that he slows us down and we want more dynamism, not less.

gooner7 · **#353941**

Interesting match-up Tomiyasu & Kane

Lincoln gooner · **#353942**

Unlucky Aubameyang. Played through the press nicely there.

warrior · **#353943**

bromley gooner wrote:

Unlucky Aubameyang. Played through the press nicely there.

Offside though ...

long time gooner · **#353944**

A goal from Hale End!

Lincoln gooner · **#353945**

Yes!!!!!!

gooner7 · **#353946**

Emile Smith Rowe!!!!!!

warrior · **#353947**

Rich · **#353948**

Great start - well deserved.

We're playing through the lines. Spurs are just going long ball.

We look up for this

AmericanGooner · **#353949**

So far, up to and including the goal we are playing like:
we are in a NLD
we are possibly seeing the football that Arteta has been trying to imprint on the squad

gooner7 · **#353950**

That's the way to play our football. Forward, driven, purposeful and confident.

Decaf · **#353951**

Nice!

warrior · **#353952**

Fun fact - typing the letters E S R together will type Emile Smith Rowe.

Rich · **#353953**

This is really good to watch. The team look balanced, they know their roles, they're linking with each other well and finding players in spaces.

The lop sided attack with Tierney pushed high is slightly re-balanced by Ødegaard drifting to the right.

We need to concentrate and not take our foot off the gas here

Rich · **#353954**

Ødegaard leads the press for us

long time gooner · **#353955**

It gets even better. Straight from a horrible pass out by Ramsdale a super breakaway.

Clinical and deadly.

Lincoln gooner · **#353956**

Aubameyang!!!!
Brilliant :21encouragement:

Rich · **#353957**

Aubameyang!
What a counter attack!

AmericanGooner · **#353958**

Arteta out. :42laughter:

gooner7 · **#353959**

Aubameyang!!!!!!

Rich · **#353960**

Ramsdale's risky pass rescued massively by Xhaka to set up that goal. Wonderful flick round the corner from Aubameyang and Emile Smith Rowe just burns away from Tanganga and finds the right cut back for Aubameyang to finish.
Wonderful stuff - needed that 2nd goal

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