Great result. A win at Turf Moor is always a cause for celebration.

Some top performances today. Ramsdale obviously, Gabriel, Partey, Ødegaard, Tomiyasu to name but a few.

Would like to have seen White on the ball more and playing out expansively because thats really what he is in the team for.

Our front three just does not seem to gel in any meaningful way.

Pépé's decision-making and execution of those decisions continues to frustrate, he is capable of such brilliance and yet such shiteness, often in the same passage of play.

Aubameyang offers nothing bar the threat of a goal if he gets the right kind of chances, which he rarely does. Our main weapon of the swinging cross into the box from Tierney is no use to him it seems.

Saka was out of sorts and needs a rest.

So everton miss their two main strikers and best players, their established international gk and their captain and right back. Villa smashing them. Important players missing really does mean something for teams without huge depth

Dyche “I have to say the gk does get a touch so in theory that doesn’t get given….though you might question if that was a clear and obvious error”

The guy moans like a drain. You’d only question that it wasn’t a clear and obvious error to award the penalty if you were a complete idiot with no comprehension of the rules of football

Winning games buys time, we’re not fluent yet but so much of this team feels new and they still need to gel.
We finished the game today with all 6 new signings on the pitch and 4 of the back 5 as new players. I can’t think of any big team recently who have done that.

So much to like from two new signings in particular as well.

Ramsdale. Seems very vocal and the thing I love so much in a gk coming and claiming crosses confidently

Tomiyasu. Has only lost 1 duel he’s contested so far. So strong in the air, quick and combative and good with both feet. Already looks a good price at £17m. Only 22, looks older

These sorts of battling wins where the team has to really dig in can hugely help the togetherness of a new set of players.
We need to forge that team spirit and develop those leaders within the squad who take command and set standards in adversity

100 % this

If Partey gets injured your 50 million pound midfield player gets replaced by a 10 million pound Egyptian midfielder and a 12 million pound Switzerland clogger and the fans start moaning that the manager isn’t getting the best out of the players.

The actual truth is we usually look ok when we can pick our best 11

Give it a couple of games.

I am glad we have a GK who comes out to claim the crosses. Puts less demands and pressure on the defenders.

Watched Tomiyasu during Japan's Olympics campaign and was very impressed with him. Was ecstatic when he was signed.

Pépé was very disappointing with his decision making. He seems to be playing for himself, often trying to dribble his way to glory.

Some good performances in there and with a few less understrength passes and a few more played in front of the man instead of behind and there were more goals there. I would like to see a few more first time shots too. A few times there was that little first touch when it was a great time to just try to sweep it home. Especially on the counter.

Not helped by the amount of passes behind him so that he had to check his run. But agreed he lost it a lot today.

Like this photo. Burnley player trying to rush Tierney up, or remonstrate with him from going down with cramp, assuming he was just time wasting and Ramsdale straight in there to stop him and Gabriel looking ready for a fight as well.

Little things but this is the attitude we need.

Palace denied a 100% penalty claim and MOD don't even mention it.

Another VAR fail down to incompetent refs.

Liverpool played without Alexander-Arnold AND Robertson in a Prem game for the first time since December 2018.

Jimmy Greaves has died.

Poignant that today is Spurs v Chelsea

Just seen the Walker penalty and red card that was over turned v Southampton. Does anyone actually think an Arsenal defender would have got that over turned? No chance Luiz from last season gets that over turned

The team that finished the game yesterday had an average age just over 23.
AMN was the 3rd oldest player at 24

Some light has most definitely gone from the football world. Loved him as a player and as a commentator. You can safely use the word great about him.

Indeed, quite some player and post-retirement he and the Saint were a fantastic combo.

Sad that he didn't get to play in the World Cup Final.

RIP.

Very encouraged by our solid defensive display yesterday against a very physical Burnley side.

Very sad. I saw him play a few times, and score at least one goal against Arsenal. But in his television work he always came across very well. I still remember the 1987 Coventry vs Tottenham final, still my favourite FA Cup final that Arsenal didn’t win, when he announced that he wanted Coventry to win, even though he expected Tottenham to win A presenter found that astonishing and asked him why? Greaves said it was because he now lived in the midlands.

At the time I had a Tottenham supporting girlfriend. I often went to games at White Hart Lane with her when they weren’t playing us and I wasn’t going to our away game. Likewise she often came with me to Highbury when we weren’t playing Tottenham. As a result, in addition to the about 120+ North London derbies I’ve attended, my guess is I must have been to hundreds (200+) Tottenham games. As a result, I must admit I’ve never really had the same pathological hatred of Tottenham that many Arsenal fans seem to have, even though I’ve wanted them to lose the huge majority of even the non-North London derby matches I went to with her (there were a small number of exceptions).

But anyway, she had Tottenham supporting friends who now in the age of social media would be called ‘in the know’. The strong suspicion amongst her ITK contacts was that Greaves was desperately unhappy with the club over what he perceived as their lack of support for him over his alcoholism. Indeed, following his retirement (must have been quite a number of years) he gave an interview when he was asked what the biggest regrets he had over his career. It wasn’t his biggest regret, but one I do recall him giving was never having played for Arsenal.

He obviously played for Chelsea, Tottenham and West Ham so most put it down to us being the only one of the top four London clubs he never played for. But my former girlfriend’s ITK contacts always thought it was all to do with him still having the hump with Tottenham over what he perceived as their lack of support for him over his alcoholism.

These days yes I do think the penalty would have been overturned had it been an Arsenal defender. Don’t forget, what’s considered acceptable or not has now been modified. I think the penalty should still have been given whoever was playing. But I don’t think an Arsenal defender would be sent off this season for that foul.

We must remember things have changed recently. I think Burnley’s penalty would have been given previously. Yesterday it wasn’t.

That name was among the first names banded about when I became a fan. The pub I went to were filled with a lot of pensioners who retired to LA (of all places) and a good number of them were Londoners. The others married American women or for whatever reason moved their with their children. The name was mentioned off and on, on this forum as well over the years. Both venues I've heard it, always with respect.

Greaves was mentioned a lot and I wish I had seen him play. I've only seen him in videos.

Watching fever pitch the premier league years on bbc2. After last weeks sick inducing homage to man uniteds title side the beeb have done another special.

10 minutes dedicated to Blackburn then a 40 minute homage to the flawed genius that was Eric Cantona covering the famous selhurst lark incident even though they didn’t win the title that year. They can’t help themselves

That was as good a case of a 'clear and obvious error' as you will ever see. The ref couldn't see it from his angle and var did the right thing. Exactly how the system is supposed to work.

In fact, there is no way anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of football could honestly say otherwise. So it is a real pity is that pundits feel they have a licence to talk nonsense, presumably because 'being controversial' is seen as interesting and is good for ratings. A bit of fun is one thing, but I do think the balance between 'informing' and 'inflaming' in journalism needs to be addressed.

*yawn*

If we are to rely on Smith Rowe he has to develop more of a killer instinct. He has missed opportunities yesterday and againest Norwich that would have finished those matches. Decent player and a good prospect but can’t help feeling it might be a little too much responsibility too soon rather than being phased in

Sorry, I meant the sending off would have been overturned had it been an Arsenal player, not the penalty as I put in the first sentence. The penalty shouldn’t have been. The sending off should.

I'm glad you clarified that. It looked like a foul, or at least a borderline case.

Does the VAR check allow the ref to differentiate? i.e. overrule the sending off but still award the penalty?

Indeed Old Man.

I had a Spurs-supporting neighbour and I’d often go with him to watch them on the Saturdays we weren’t at home, so I saw a lot of Greaves. Spurs we’re a better team than us in those days and much better to watch. Greaves was their star and in my mind, as good a striker as I’ve ever seen. He didn’t track back or tackle or create assists; he was an out-and-out goal-scorer. He could ride vicious tackles and weave through packed defences and when he was through on goal, there was nobody quite like him for coolness and accuracy of shot.

As important as all that for me, he was his own man. He didn’t compromise and he stuck with his decisions. He fought a long struggle against alcohol and never joined in the frequent World Cup get-togethers because they were awash with booze. That made him seem resentful of not playing in the Final but he just didn’t need the temptation. He was a great pundit who brought wit and wisdom to his programmes which made him compulsive viewing. He almost died of a stroke a few years ago so we haven’t seen much of him, but he will be missed.

Probably my favourite non-Arse player.

I would have thought so. If it doesn’t, it should do.

Paul Breitner for me.

My favourite ex-Tottenham player is Darren Bent. As a kid he was an Arsenal season ticket holder and working as a presenter on TalkSPORT makes his pro-Arsenal bias blatantly obvious. Often refers to Arsenal with words like ‘us’ and ‘we’.

Great player. Fantastic finisher. I think he was the best natural finisher I’ve ever seen. He made it look so easy.
I actually played against him much later in his career. I was playing for Eton Manor against Barnet. Shattered some illusions. He was really miserable… didn’t stop moaning. He was still the second best player on the pitch though!!

Hi AG - you had to be a careful watcher with Jimmy because he was one of those players who could be out of the action for a good while but then, bang! - goal!! He wasn't a fancy player, a dribbler or all over the place, just a deadly finisher. This goal against United is rightly famous, but in not typical.
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Arsenal U23's beat Chelsea 6-1 today, despite having a man sent off after 35 minutes.

New signing Biereth (signed from Fulham) got a hat trick, Balogun scored 2 and there was an own goal.

It was only recently Ronaldo beat greaves record as the greatest all top scorer in Europe's top 5 leagues. Never saw him play but I remember sitting in Prague surrounded by gooners or a certain vintage about 20 plus years ago. They all agreed Greaves was the best striker England ever produced.

I thought it was a foul but not a red. I think it needs to be a very clear 'no attempt to play the ball' for it to be a red.

The VAR should be looking at the red card, not the incident as a whole. Otherwise the ref is going 'ok I made a mistake' and both the penalty (wrongly) and red card (rightly) are overturned.

The ref really should not have the opportunity to overturn the penalty in that case. That is setting the bar for overturning penalty calls far too low.