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Post #507401  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:48 pm 
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I said to my Daughter.
Wouldn't surprise me they score after being second best in the 2nd half
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Post #507402  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:48 pm 
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How many shots on target have Everton had? Fulham had none apart from the pen.


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Post #507403  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:48 pm 
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Well that was yet another fun evening. More turgid dull mediocre fare.

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I shudder at the thought of the utterly awful performances opponents have put in against us and claimed points from us this season. Really not good enough.

Everton have offered absolutely nothing this game

It’s dreadful as we stumble from 1 crisis to another.

we miss footballing intelligence in the final third.saka and Emile Smith Rowe do their best.

It’s all a bit *%^@


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I shudder at the thought of the utterly awful performances opponents have put in against us and claimed points from us this season. Really not good enough.

Everton have offered absolutely nothing this game

Same thing we've been saying a lot this season. We play well and we might win - slightest fault in our performance and we always seem to draw or lose.


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How many shots on target have Everton had? Fulham had none apart from the pen.

They've had 1, and it wasn't the goal.


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Post #507407  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:49 pm 
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Arteta just cannot string any results together.


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Post #507408  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:49 pm 
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Bernard wrote:
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Moshiri has half of that wealth and he owns half of Everton.

He can have a whip round with his mates.

Moshiri owns over three quarters of Everton. Blue Heaven Holdings (Moshiri’s company) has 77.23% of the shares, Bill Kenwright has 5.00% and other small shareholders have 17.77%.

https://www.evertonfc.com/club/sharehol ... areholders

Well there you go the swede can buy us


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Post #507409  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:50 pm 
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Rich wrote:
Ash wrote:
How many shots on target have Everton had? Fulham had none apart from the pen.

They've had 1, and it wasn't the goal.


Worthy winners. I’d take the loss here for a good win on Thursday.


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Post #507410  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:52 pm 
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Give Ryan a run
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Post #507411  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:52 pm 
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Front 4 is Pépé and a load of kids though. No experience, seniority or leadership.

Btw that’s a shocking performance for ancelloti many fans so called saviour

Our season has been diabolical


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Post #507412  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:53 pm 
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Dismal.

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Basket case


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Can we also point out the farce of time keeping in added time.
An everton player goes down in added time and we waste 1 minute, then Arsenal commit a foul on 93:30 there is 2 minutes of argy bargy so when the ball comes back it's nearly 95 minute and the ref blows straight away - you knew he would.


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Post #507415  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:56 pm 
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Deary me.
Its all our eggs in the Europa League basket. After a lack lustre performance topped off with a goal keeping howler it hardly fills you with confidence.


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Arteta just cannot string any results together.

I do feel sorry for him, how can he legislate for such comical individual errors and arbitrary var calls.

Draw those offside lines 1 pixel the other way in our last two home games and we have 6 points now 5. That is what is deciding matches now

We've now gifted everton the double over us with 2 own goals


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Ash wrote:
How many shots on target have Everton had? Fulham had none apart from the pen.

They had one on target. We had two. Stellar stuff.

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Post #507418  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:56 pm 
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Table doesn’t lie. We’re not very good.


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Post #507419  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:57 pm 
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Another disappointing result. Is Arteta just not good enough, or ?

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Rich wrote:
Can we also point out the farce of time keeping in added time.
An everton player goes down in added time and we waste 1 minute, then Arsenal commit a foul on 93:30 there is 2 minutes of argy bargy so when the ball comes back it's nearly 95 minute and the ref blows straight away - you knew he would.


The way we were playing, another 45 won't get us a goal.

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Post #507421  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:59 pm 
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Our luck isnt in at the moment but then again our games are so tight that we have little margin of error.


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European Super League. :15laughter: :15laughter: :15laughter:

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Rich wrote:
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Arteta just cannot string any results together.

I do feel sorry for him, how can he legislate for such comical individual errors and arbitrary var calls.

Draw those offside lines 1 pixel the other way in our last two home games and we have 6 points now 5. That is what is deciding matches now

We've now gifted everton the double over us with 2 own goals

We had close to 60% possession, a 92% pass completion rate and 2 shots on target. That's Arteta football for you. We didn't even miss good chances. It's awful stuff.

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Post #507424  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:01 pm 
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The pressure is going to be squarely on Arteta from the start of next season unless he manages to win the Europa League.


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Post #507425  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:04 pm 
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Hazuki wrote:
Rich wrote:
I shudder at the thought of the utterly awful performances opponents have put in against us and claimed points from us this season. Really not good enough.

Everton have offered absolutely nothing this game

Same thing we've been saying a lot this season. We play well and we might win - slightest fault in our performance and we always seem to draw or lose.

Exactly that. We cant win tight games, we almost always lose them down to a single bad error or a ref decision.
Who has actually beaten us really well this year, Villa, Liverpool twice and spurs away we were well beaten I'd say.
Other than that we had 2 tight games v City where to be fair we were almost certainly kept at arms length.
var decisions going against us for leicester at home (xhaka offside for interfering), fulham at home (both our goal and their pen), wolves away (luiz pen and red), villa away (martinez hauling down lacazette) and burnley away (clear penalty for handball), everton home (guessing on 2 offsides) - there is 12-14 points right there is refs who are simply guessing at decisions

Then throw in losing away to everton with an own goal and home to burnley with an own goal. I have never known a season like it - it's incredible.


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Post #507426  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:07 pm 
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We've scored in just 9 home games this season. Failed to score in 8 home games.

We'd only failed to score in 4 homes games total in the last 4 years together


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No sign of an exit from the Extremely Sh*t League!


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Post #507428  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:12 pm 
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Decaf wrote:
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Team as expected the only debate was whether Nketiah or Martinelli starts up top....and it’s Nketiah.

Nelson is on the bench but I struggle to see literally any scenario where he feasibly comes on the pitch. Also on the bench are Willian, Martinelli and Ødegaard who would all come on in front of him for any injury to an attacking player or any desire for us to go all out attack.

I've got a good feeling about this one.
*Touch wood*

Looks like that feeling was a touch of wind again

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Post #507429  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:20 pm 
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Those games are all the more frustrating hearing the opposition players and managers talk about how well they played and how it was a big win. We bloody gifted it them time and time again, Everton offered absolutely nothing that even hinted at them trying or deserving to win the game. But of course however you win you take it.

What was the last game we were awful or average in but squeezed a victory out of nowhere


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Post #507430  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:21 pm 
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It's Europa or bust for Arteta. The stats are damning.

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It's Europa or bust for Arteta. The stats are damning.

It’s not just the stats though is it. The stats simply reflect the quality, or lack thereof, of our play. It’s not like we’re unlucky. We get what we deserve. I’m going back nearly 50 years to recall anything quite as awful served up for our delectation.

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Post #507432  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:25 pm 
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I think Xhaka needs to go back in central midfield and get Cédric back at left back, or even play Gabriel there.
Xhaka works when teams play narrow or have no pace out wide - which is basically not that many teams or only the very very poor teams


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Rich wrote:
I think Xhaka needs to go back in central midfield and get Cédric back at left back, or even play Gabriel there.
Xhaka works when teams play narrow or have no pace out wide - which is basically not that many teams or only the very very poor teams

That’s like saying a deckchair on the Titanic was the wrong colour. True but not really the main problem.

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Post #507434  Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:37 pm 
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I think our season rests on the fitness of Lacazette and Aubameyang.

I just don't see us getting past the semi with either Nketiah (who actually played well today) or Martinelli up top, as neither are really quipped for that role in a team wanting to win the EL and set up the way we are. Not their fault, and neither is the fact that we create very few chances and don't play to their strengths. Unless of course Villareal are completely useless.

Once again I ask why Areta does not give his subs longer to influence the game. Give them half an hour. Gabbi had about 2 touches and Ødegaard took a while to get into the game.


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When you look at the still of the var for our offside I’m not even sure they’ve stopped the video at the point of the pass. On the still image the ball isn’t a perfect circle, it is spread out because of the lack of quality in the technology being unable to capture as many frames of action per second as it needs to.
It is total guesswork and we’ve fallen on the wrong side of it too often.

The only close var call in our favour this year was that Mginn offside before villa scored their first when they beat us 3-0. We’ve had double figures go against us


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I think Xhaka needs to go back in central midfield and get Cédric back at left back, or even play Gabriel there.
Xhaka works when teams play narrow or have no pace out wide - which is basically not that many teams or only the very very poor teams

That’s like saying a deckchair on the Titanic was the wrong colour. True but not really the main problem.

True but then there’s no point ignoring it just because it isn’t our biggest problem. We can fix that easily. Our biggest problems are a lot harder to fix


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I don’t think Lacazette or Aubameyang will be fit for Thursday. Even if Aubameyang feels
Ok he’s been laid up in bed with malaria, has apparently lost a lot of weight and will almost certainly take some time to get back up to full fitness.

Martinelli has to start up front on Thursday.


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And to finish up for the evening, with the way we play we leave ourselves completely susceptible to losing a game by a single error by player of ref.
The annoying thing is plenty of teams in mid and lower table are exactly the same but tend to get beaten not by such clear game changing errors


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I think we need to disregard the VAR robbery. Players and managers use this as an excuse. The fact remains we regularly fail to create enough chances and our chances often are not of high quality.

Good teams, create numerous chances and often clear chances are not as scarce as at Arsenal.

Arteta still wants players to play with the hand brake on. His failure to even try Martenelli at CF, let alone give him an extended run is simply inexplicable, until you realise that Arteta is a control freak who cannot change his mind. I honestly believe S-R and Saka would never have been playing forward if Willian and others were not COVID restricted and he had no choice against Chelsea.

If you remain risk adverse you cannot progress.

There are 2 issues with the club: some players not trying or lacking quality and a manager not good enough or confident enough to take progressive risks.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
I think we need to disregard the VAR robbery. Players and managers use this as an excuse. The fact remains we regularly fail to create enough chances and our chances often are not of high quality.

Good teams, create numerous chances and often clear chances are not as scarce as at Arsenal.

We’re not a good enough team to create those chances with the players we have. There is a lack of quality and depth right through the squad.
So a lot of our games are going to be tight affairs. The trouble we’re having is making sure we come out on top in more of these tight affairs. We’re gifting tight games to opponents who don’t deserve it. I’m struggling to think of many tight games where we just nicked it but really there was little between the teams on the day.
Brighton away 1-0 maybe, but that was our one moment of quality rather than a gift from Brighton. Maybe West Ham at home, 2-1 as West Ham were ok that day, but we had them penned in at the end. Even beating Man U 1-0 away was a good performance where we deserved the win on chances and all round play. We just aren’t converting these tight games in to wins


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