Not with any serious observer. Unless I miscounted, the video showed twelve separate incidents, some from different angles so I only counted those once. Moreover, not all of them I consider a mistake anyway, for example him unsuccessfully tackling Pogba so failing to win the ball from him when Pogba was in full flight. Adams, Campbell or Keown may not have won the ball from Pogba on that run.

Xhaka has been at Arsenal five years. However good a player is, I’m sure small minded people would be able to find a dozen or more (many more probably) incidents where things didn’t work out well for him in a game. Even Vieira gave the ball to Giggs in the 1999 semi-final (I’m not saying Xhaka was anywhere close to Vieira who I consider Arsenal’s greatest midfielder). But not everything he did turned out well. So I’m sure similar videos could be made about Vieira, and Petit, and Brady, and Pires, and so on.

Myself, I think what is far more relevant is DHD saying, words to the effect of, that despite Xhaka’s faults, we often looked better when he was playing than when he didn’t. Also Decaf’s point that Xhaka is better than you give him credit for (I think it was Decaf, but apologies to him if it wasn’t).

worst player I’ve seen at the club ... taking everything into account i.e. price tag, age, number of appearances, etc.

As well as being thick as mince, Xhaka has some really childish traits too. Petulance, rashness, sulking when criticised. Also his technique (or lack of it) is seriously under-developed for a so-called professional. He has this dreadful habit of looking down at the ball before he kicks it. That’s why his vision and creativity is so poor. Ponderous in possession, passes backwards 95% of the time. he doesn’t actually “tackle” with his feet, he pushes, pulls, tugs and is so easy to go past.

We have become so demoralised and beaten down by this club that we now view any game that Xhaka doesn't cost us a goal as having done quite well. The same supporters who watched Vieira, Fàbregas and Brady dominate the middle of the park. Jeez it’s depressing but now he’s off and his low transfer fee is confirmation of his lack of ability and personally I’m loving it.

If ever were there a way to prove the maxim 'lies, damn lies and statistics' it is Granit Xhaka. Statistics everywhere point to him being an effective, or even very good midfield player, however having watched him game after game, season after season I can honestly say statistics are absolute nonsense

At the end of the day what me and you think about it is irrelevant as the ultimate barometer of a players success is his transfer value and Xhaka and Guendouzis are low. Speaks volumes, not been a success and thinking otherwise is kidding yourself

If ever were there a way to prove the maxim 'lies, damn lies and statistics' it is Granit Xhaka. Statistics everywhere point to him being an effective, or even very good midfield player, however having watched him game after game, season after season I can honestly say statistics are absolute nonsense

At the end of the day what me and you think about it is irrelevant as the ultimate barometer of a players success is his transfer value and Xhaka and Guendouzis are low. Speaks volumes, not been a success and thinking otherwise is kidding yourself

I can honestly say statistics are absolute nonsense

Confirmation of depressed transfer market.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57433323

Or maybe just maybe Jadon Sancho is a good footballer

worst player I’ve seen at the club .......................

worst player I’ve seen at the club

Wow.

Sideways, backwards, cross field ball 15 yards forward to the fullback... oh look we’ve dropped to fifth !!,,

Sideways, backwards, cross field ball 15 yards forward to the fullback.... oh look we’ve dropped to 8th !!!!

Sideways, backwards, cross field ball 15 yards forward to the fullback... oh look he’s leaving but we can’t possibly sell him!!

But the stats show he’s the second biggest forward passer in the final third in the Premier League. As I said, your views on players appear to be largely driven by whether you like them or not, rather than what they do on the pitch.

Like I said 15 yards forward to the fullback. Sideways, backwards, cross field ball 15 yards forward to the fullback...

Never through the middle hence our weird u shape heat maps

Lots of links that Arsenal are very interested in Ben White of Brighton. And talk we still want another right sided CB. No idea what this means for Saliba.
Although perhaps Ben White is being targeted as a Holding replacement

Lots of links that Arsenal are very interested in Ben White of Brighton. And talk we still want another right sided CB. No idea what this means for Saliba.
Although perhaps Ben White is being targeted as a Holding replacement

Very odd, Rich.

Can’t say I have an opinion on Ben White one way or the other but to splurge £40m on him seems wildly extravagant when other areas of the team seem a more pressing issue.

Not sure why David Ornstein has gone public with it either. He doesn’t usually get fed duff information so Arsenal must be happy for it to be in the public domain.

I would be incredibly unhappy if we jettison Saliba without at least giving him a proper go.

His forward passing stats are for the final third. The final third!

Well 4 assists in his last 90 games !!!!!!!!. He’s not some final ball wizard and his passing isn’t progressive. He recycles possession and that’s it.

Everyone knows this

No, you think it or want to believe it. You often seem to focus on assists. But in doing that, you ignore passes including incisive passes leading up to assists. Focusing on assists for goals is such a limited way of looking at it. How about one of Aubameyang’s goals at the Emirates when the creative pass was Xhaka putting Tierney through in a wide position that enabled Tierney to give Aubameyang a simple chance he couldn’t miss? It was Aubameyang’s goal and Tierney’s assist, but the goal was centred round Xhaka’s pass.

Good players cost lots of money, bad players not a lot of money. Xhaka is being transferred for peanuts. Your unhappy because the things you’ve said about him don’t make sense and you’ve been proven factually wrong now

It’s already been explained that there are various factors contributing to a player’s transfer fee, as well as quality. One of which is their age, another is their eagerness to move, with another being the state of the market. Xhaka is approaching 29, it’s a depressed market, and allegedly fancies a move. All factors that could negatively effect the fee we’ll get for him. I therefore haven’t been proved factually wrong.

Yes you have.

Plenty of midfielders even worse than Xhaka will be moving for more money this summer. We are getting peanuts because he has a reputation for petulance and making major bloopers that cost his team dearly in football matches. To ignore that shows you are in denial.

That’s interesting. You say “Plenty of midfielders even worse than Xhaka will be moving for more money this summer.” So says the person who considers Xhaka the worst player he’s ever seen play for Arsenal. I would say that strongly suggests there ARE other factors that drive the money players move for.

Okay, it’s a depressed market for players generally, but doesn’t that make you think age is one of them? A club’s performance at negotiating fees could be another. But what I do think is that transfer fee size is alone not a reliable indicator of player quality. Therefore, I have not been proved factually wrong. I think it’s more to do with you not understanding what the words ‘proved’ or ‘factually’ mean.

So who are all these other players you consider even worse than Xhaka who will be moving for more money than him? They’re clearly at other clubs, but who are they?