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Post #438481  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:05 pm 
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Winks is finally booked. The same foul he's made 3 times already today


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So Winks finally gets a yellow for an identical cheat/foul.

Should have has the earlier one.

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Post #438483  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:06 pm 
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Winks is finally booked. The same foul he's made 3 times already today

Unsurprisingly I agree with that :12hello-bye:

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Post #438484  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:08 pm 
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close from Aubameyand - great technique


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Post #438485  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:10 pm 
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2-1 spurs from the corner


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Post #438486  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:11 pm 
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Bollox. After yet another great save from Martinez.

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Post #438487  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:11 pm 
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And there it is. :8angers:


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Post #438488  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:11 pm 
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Feels crazy that we're going to lose to such a sh*t spurs team, I mean they have been bloody awful today. Such a spawny game from them but Mourinho will love it


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Post #438489  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:12 pm 
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I could see that coming. :20hospitals:


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Oh grief. Mustafi has gone to pieces. Lucky to get away with that.

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Post #438491  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:13 pm 
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Kolasinac’s cockup changed the whole game. There was a palpable feeling of energy and belief draining out of the side after that.

He should be on the out list.

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Post #438492  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:13 pm 
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Lets be clear here, Spurs have been utterly bereft of any ideas, any tactics, any building up of play. This is one of the worst performances that we're going to lose to this season


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Post #438493  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:14 pm 
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The back three should be shot. Kolasinac and Mustafi in particular have been abysmal today.

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Post #438494  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:15 pm 
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Yet another lead thrown away. 15 points from winning positions in Arteta's reign


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And have a guess which team has the most players unavailable ?

https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

And this

Matteo Guendouzi "Internal Disciplinary Matter" No Return Date


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Kolasinac’s cockup changed the whole game. There was a palpable feeling of energy and belief draining out of the side after that.

He should be on the out list.

Horrible wasn’t it?

And as I type Martinez bails us out yet again.

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Post #438497  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:17 pm 
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Very, very disappointing


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Post #438498  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:19 pm 
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Very, very disappointing

Yup. Should have been in control at 1-0. Looked in control at 1-1. Cocked it up.

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Post #438499  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:20 pm 
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moved the ball well until the final third then a distinct lack of creativity


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Mustafi made one mistake not long before the second spurs goal and since then has absolutely fallen apart. Shambles of a player.

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Still could be 3 -1 yet


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Our man of the match imo: Martinez

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3 points lost there. :36angers:


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45% of our goals conceded have been from set-pieces. That is crazy.

Seriously, sorting out defending set-pieces should be one of the easiest ways to shore up a team, you're totally in control of your own set up. Sort that out and cut out the shoot yourself in the foot type errors - obviously every goal can be put down to defensive errors but I mean the ones like Kolasinac today - and you have ateam that wipes 20 goals of the goals against column


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Post #438505  Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:26 pm 
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There are still some positive signs though that it’s slowly coming together.

Keep the faith.

(We should all be very good at clinging to faith by now; we’ve had plenty of practice over the past few years)

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That's the worst Tottenham performance that has managed to beat us since I can remember.

Quite happy for Mourinho to stay with them, he will get results out of the hat today but with better teams than us who are more clinical, more professional, more concentrated and more creative he's losing 9 times out of 10


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No Wenger now. No Emery now. But the club of the once mighty Invincibles are still the Invertebrates!

What a sad, pathetic imitation of a top club Arsenal have become. Good luck to Aubamayang, whichever club he signs for. It won't even bother me now if he does a Van Persie and stays in London or Manchester.


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Roll up, roll up......come and see the greatest clown show on earth.


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3 points lost there. :36angers:

another 3 points.

Far too often we've gifted away games we should have won. late equalisers at home or games we're in control of being turned around away from home.

The lack of leaders on the pitch and the lack of accountability stemming from Wenger's days still hurting.

I really hope, and I do think, that Arteta will identify those players making those mistakes and lack of concentration and ensure they don't have along term future. Feels like his hands are tied somewhat at the moment.


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Rich wrote:
That's the worst Tottenham performance that has managed to beat us since I can remember.

Quite happy for Mourinho to stay with them, he will get results out of the hat today but with better teams than us who are more clinical, more professional, more concentrated and more creative he's losing 9 times out of 10


They were there for the taking, Rich.


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I felt very uncomfortable before the game the way we were being made favourites and people being a downer on spurs.
Knew it would be sods law and we would *%^@*** lose the match!!
Mourinho *%^@*** does us again


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Goonie wrote:
but where was Bellerin? Tactical mistake by Arteta. We were vulnerable to their counter attacks.

Sorry for sounding like socrates but Bellerin has lost so much pace it’s frightening. Heard a rumour that Seville want him. Sounds his level now he’s so slow, for a full back anyway. If true I can see it happening to get some money in.


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Bernard wrote:
Goonie wrote:
but where was Bellerin? Tactical mistake by Arteta. We were vulnerable to their counter attacks.

Sorry for sounding like socrates but Bellerin has lost so much pace it’s frightening. Heard a rumour that Seville want him. Sounds his level now he’s so slow, for a full back anyway. If true I can see it happening to get some money in.


Seville are probably a step-up from us.


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Bernard wrote:
Sorry for sounding like socrates but Bellerin has lost so much pace it’s frightening. Heard a rumour that Seville want him. Sounds his level now he’s so slow, for a full back anyway. If true I can see it happening to get some money in.


Seville are probably a step-up from us.

Or two.

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Arteta said:

"If we minimise the mistakes we do and keep playing like that, we will win many, many football games."

I think that’s correct.

Now where’s that straw.........

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I think there are positives from today. We were in control for the majority of the game. There is a growing decisiveness in the team play as Arteta's coaching is having an impact. The gaping holes through midfield are gone and Ceballos & Zhaka are developing a good partnership.

Obviously, Kolasinac's error was a brutal one. I can't see him being with us next season. Mustafi has been very good of late and played well for 60mins before going to pieces. Hard to know what to do with him.

I won't mind at all if we miss out on Europe. It might help us a lot in the league.

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Bernard wrote:
Goonie wrote:
but where was Bellerin? Tactical mistake by Arteta. We were vulnerable to their counter attacks.

Sorry for sounding like socrates but Bellerin has lost so much pace it’s frightening. Heard a rumour that Seville want him. Sounds his level now he’s so slow, for a full back anyway. If true I can see it happening to get some money in.

You could say the same for so many of our squad. If a decent offer came in you'd happily sell 75% of them I reckon.
On the basis that we are probably in a break even requirement in our finances for transfers this summer I can't see Bellerin being one of those sold unless Sevilla go for £30m+. If we sold him we'd have to replace him in a position that doesn't actually need surgery as much as other areas.


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Arteta has got us more controlled, solid and less wide open in normal play. That is 1 out of 3. Silly mistakes is only in his control in the sense that he picks the team, the 3rd aspect is those blasted set pieces.

Going forward the change to make us more solid defensively has affected what happens up top. Arteta saw it necessary to go with 3 at the back because none of our CB can be trusted to perform in a 2. What that means in terms of goals and assists is we're basically relying on just 3 players. Xhaka and Ceballos maybe chip in with 2 a year, the wing backs are not exactly Robertson and Trent racking up assists.

The long terms plan has to be to get back to a back 4, find a better balance in midfield adding more creativity and runs beyond the strikers and also getting a front 3 who all contribute goals and assists in the way Liverpool, City and now Man U do.


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Kolasinac has never been good defensively, either technically or positionally. He's only ever really looked good as a marauding wingback.


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Rich wrote:
Arteta has got us more controlled, solid and less wide open in normal play. That is 1 out of 3. Silly mistakes is only in his control in the sense that he picks the team, the 3rd aspect is those blasted set pieces.

Going forward the change to make us more solid defensively has affected what happens up top. Arteta saw it necessary to go with 3 at the back because none of our CB can be trusted to perform in a 2. What that means in terms of goals and assists is we're basically relying on just 3 players. Xhaka and Ceballos maybe chip in with 2 a year, the wing backs are not exactly Robertson and Trent racking up assists.

The long terms plan has to be to get back to a back 4, find a better balance in midfield adding more creativity and runs beyond the strikers and also getting a front 3 who all contribute goals and assists in the way Liverpool, City and now Man U do.


I think Arteta needs time and whilst I have some reservations he must be given at least a proper transfer window to change things. Now if he starts giving the likes of Mustafi a new contract (except in order to preserve some transfer value) then I will start to have real concerns.

Mustafi is not, and never will be, the answer. Ditto David Luiz and Kolasinac. None of them are at the level required.


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