Kroenke
You utter *%^@.
You are a disgrace and have no allegiance to our great club.
*%^@ off out of my club and take your poxy super league plans with you.

And more....sorry to be such a bore, but....

JPMorgan has confirmed they underwrite the project.

Each founding member would be provided at the start with ~$400 million, which is more than four times what the winner of the Champions League took home in 2020.

By forming their own competition, they believe they can better leverage their brands without smaller, less attractive clubs diluting their value.

One of the sad things about this super league stuff is it acts as a reminder Arsenal haven’t competed at the highest level of football for some time.

Never mind Arteta for 5 minutes it’s been going wrong since 2010 and it’s so so gutting.

We were crazy not to build on the success of the invincible period and let the finances of the stadium move wreck our team building. We had such pull during that period if we had the finances we would have been such a draw for any player if we had the cash.

Now we find ourselves so adrift that we really haven’t got the finances for the rebuild required and likely have to change the manager every few years to maintain fan satisfaction and top players won’t want to join,

Arsenal no longer compete, wont anytime soon and it’s just gutting

It’s not your club. It’s not mine either.

It belongs to one single person. His very own possession. And therein lies our problem.

He got rid of shareholders (like Bernard) who had a voice. Now he has to listen to nobody.

For Arsenal financially it’s a no brainer! Covers the loan, gives a budget towards the rebuild and neglect Kroenkes ownership has brought the club plus it removes the aggro of having to qualify anymore which we are too crap to achieve anyway.

Makes complete sense! Bring it on.

Actual video of AG agreeing to handle all this "Super League" business

Relax folks, can't see it happening now.

Mate you can still come on here because many other topics are discussed which probably points to how football is losing its flavour.

The whole project will come down to what it takes to convince the FA to keep the teams in the EPL. I am sure it will be a payment of money because the EPL can’t do without the clubs because they are riding their own cash cow. But I don’t see how we would have one competitive team, let alone 2 for the different comps. You sup with the devil , there is certain to be some poison around.

Am I alone in wondering why our government and Opposition are getting involved in this latest football development? With all the needs we have there is plenty for them to do without wasting their time trying to exert control over a legal, if not popular venture. If the politicians are keen on stamping down on greed, how about a closer look at the scandalous tax avoidance in our country? Whatever we think of this new league it is worrying to see a government getting involved. What next, Boris Rovers?

The,answer to your question is May, 6th I think.

Good point, they have been literally handing out multi million covid contracts to all their mates and relatives. I’m not sure how they can take the moral high ground for a group of businesses hoping to open a new market for themselves.

Mourinho will likely never get another top job at a club again. Top being a top 10 or less global club. Juve, PSG, Barca, RM, City, Liverpool, Man Utd, Bayern Munich.

He'll be offered the next tier down. Tottenham was already the next tier down. My guess is the best he'll be able to do is Dortmund, Atletico, Sevilla, Valencia, either Rome clubs...maybe....maybe Milan. Celtic or Rangers, Ajax, Feyenoord, any french club other than PSG, such as Monaco, Marseille, or Lyon.

I have a feeling he'll end up as national team manager for Portugal or 2nd tier Euro power or a country like Japan, South Korea, China, a decent South American team that isn't Brazil. Maybe...maybe Argentina if they are desperate enough.

I would have thought Wenger would have gotten another managerial job by now. My guess and its only a guess he over estimated himself.

Your right, The compromise I guess would be they agree to continue in the premier league, don’t participate in the league cup anymore and the fa will have to be careful with the scheduling of fa cup fixtures. That’s a lot.

Yep, the FA and others are just as self interested as anyone else and would sell their souls to keep their own snouts in their trough.

The more that I read of the situation the worse it seems. We’ll end up with 12 Harlem Globetrotters teams.

Yes. I don’t know if others feel like this but I no longer care about the Europa Cup and wouldn’t blame anyone if they immediately disqualified both us and Man U from it. Similar with those left in the CL who are leaving next year.

The founding members are just a start there will be more clubs eventually as if munich, Dortmund and Galatasaray see these club’s are making 100s of millions they will want to join too and they will be allowed as the ESL would be crazy not to let them in.

At the moment they need to force the breakaway through which is the difficult part.

I saw a comment on twitter from the author Irvine Welsh that the ultimate goal is to capitalise on market interest in football overseas in Asia and elsewhere and so on and remove the geographical dependency of the clubs ultimately so Arsenal could play home games in China or the Middle East in a true franchise type model.

People keep saying that the Superleague will not happen but these clubs have not done this on a whim, they have spent two years planning the move, no doubt investigating the legalities of it all thoroughly, and have signed binding contracts.

As I said yesterday, Sky, BT and Uefa are just up in arms because they risk losing their cash cows. These organisations were at the forefront of monetising football in the first place, they started the ball rolling so to speak, and now someone else has come along with deeper pockets and they don't like it. Just seems a little hypocritical to me.

Yes. The Arsenal that I grew up loving has gone. I’ve been in denial for some time now and have been pretending that it’s not so.

Reading that the owners of the breakaway clubs don’t understand the concept of relegation, nor care about PR, is simply appalling.

Absolutely, it’s not a tactic to renegotiate the champions league contract as that means nothing to Arsenal. This will run and run, I can’t see how they can ban the respective clubs until the new season. The key is how premier league and la Liga deal with it and if they allow the clubs to participate in the respective leagues

Hi ltg,

English football sold its soul a long time ago with the inception of the PL and working class fans being priced out of attending. Add to that the biggest clubs being sold to billionaire foreign investors as investments rather than for sporting reasons and its not hard to see how we arrived where we are.

Hi TG,

They can't kick the 12 clubs out of their respective leagues because they are the biggest attractions for worldwide tv audiences. If they disappear then the potential income streams from tv deals and advertising are massively diminished. It would be like cutting off their nose to spite their face. The clubs know this hence they are relaxed about the threats being made.

Players will not be banned from international games either for the same reasons, they are the ones who attract the huge audiences and the big money tv and advertising deals.

It definitely puts the premier league in a difficult position, depending on how the clubs contracts with the league are written they may have to accept it if it doesn't mean they are not allowed to enter new competitions. Then you have a legal battle which the clubs backed by HUGE money lawyers would fight.

Its literally a no brainer for Arsenal. I'm massively behind it now. Don't like its being delivered by an American cartel but there you go.

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Arseblog made the point yesterday that the club we all love is owned by vultures. It doesnt neccesarily mean the club is inherantly rotten just that we have a rotten owner who is trying to destroy English football as we know it for profit. The silver lining might be that it forces a reset of football in this country like bringing in the German model of ownership. The more I think about it the government have to get involved because this is about more than football, its about 150+ years of culture. I mean if this actually happens then whats next step? Playing Arsenal home games in Asia or the USA?

I agree, like it or lump it Arsenal would be one of the biggest beneficiaries from this development.

Hello Socrates. I completely agree with your point and its a massive stain on the game in this country. The super league proposals go even further by advocating the corruption of actual sporting competition.

The fact that Arsenal would be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the Super League is hardly a consolation if the sporting value and culture is massively devalued.

Hi Bored,

I hear what you are saying but the sporting integrity of the competition was already compromised. 4 teams from England get to qualify for the CL whereas loads of league winners from other countries are placed much further back. Then the group stages are seeded. The new proposal takes it a step further, obviously. FFP turned out to be a fraud.

Also, cheating is absolutely endemic in football. If you step back and look at it objectively you have the participants cheating in every game and managers lying in interviews. The game lost its sporting integrity a long time ago.

BTW, I still don't like this proposal.

So Oligarchs are allowed to pump as much money into their club playthings as they want without ANY resistance from the footballing world but if Arsenal want to strike a perfectly legal agreement to participate in a competition to earn them extra cash they can't? After years in the footballing wilderness

Wenger says it won't happen, so it won't.

Football wilderness - oh please

But have any of you seen this, comments please:
https://www.sportbible.com/football/new ... n-20210419

As I understand it Premier League Rule L9 forbids clubs from entering competitions that don't have approval. Expect money to take care of that but I don't think too many other clubs will be that happy.

By the way for those who think SK will plow all that money into the club, think again. Other than the LA Rams he is happy to just turn up season after season in other sports.

I think the whole thing is done and dusted. It is just what brown envelopes, stacked with cash, the EPL need to allow us to stay.

I'll preface this by saying Kroenke is a *%^@ that shouldn't be anywhere near the club, but not sure what this means? The revenue generated by Arsenal entering the Super League will not go into Kroenke's personal bank account, just like money generated by selling players doesn't. Kroenke owns a few other teams that are very competitive so it's not like it's some law of nature that his teams can't improve.

I agree football's integrity has been slipping away for ages now, but this could potentially destroy the whole fabric of English football. I think this is bigger than football and it requires govenment intervention.

In some ways it would make sense to have the UEFA league and Europa League running alongside the Superleague, giving the lesser sides an opportunity to participate in european competition. Clearly tv revenues and sponsorships etc would be substantially lower so I doubt UEFA would even consider it but it would be exciting for the fans of the lesser clubs who never ordinarily play in europe.

The way I see it, this isn’t about wresting the ownership and control of the game from the leagues, the clubs or the fans. It’s about American-dominated sports businesses going after UEFA and FIFA who effectively stole the game a couple of generations ago. The campaign against Blatter and FIFA was largely orchestrated by the American Government who saw a bloated and institutionally corrupt organisation that was nonetheless awash with money. You can bet your life that the Glazers, Kroenkes and Henrys were all whispering in the appropriate ears. UEFA are in the crosshairs currently.

Despite some shuffling of the personnel, FIFA continue to grow even fatter off world football and UEFA currently take billions out of the European game. This grates on a lot of people but particularly on these super-rich American Owners since they see all that surplus dosh as being generated by their players and their clubs.

We need a return of hooliganism inside the grounds.

LOL