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Post #503401  Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:54 am 
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I agree, but there is still the slim chance of snatching 7th and ensuring European football via the league. We’ve got the easiest run in. We need to overtake Leeds, villa, Everton and spurs. We should be, should be, winning 7 of our remaining 8 games. If we did I think we’d get at least 7th

Hi Rich. While you’re right with regards the maths of getting up the table, as I’ve said before the only consistent thing about our performances and results this season is our inconsistency. Accepting what you say about having a good looking run in, I will be surprised if we get the results that on paper we should. Today, as you say elsewhere, we play the worst team in the league. We should win comfortably and are thus firm favourites. But am I confident we will? The answer to my own question is a big, firm no.

Of course, we should be able to get three points. But I'm almost more confident that we'll get a decent result against Prague. Arteta's selections, and the seeming lack of focus on the pitch, in league games when we got a Europa game coming, is not confidence inspiring.

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Post #503402  Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:56 am 
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Another example in the Burnley v Newcastle game of a ref bottling a decision in the penalty area that would be given as a free kick anywhere else on the pitch. Burnley GK makes a save and it pops up to about neck height, the Newcastle attacker goes to head it in as the Burnley defender goes to hook it clear. Head, Foot and Ball all make contact at the same time at neck height but no penalty is given. In the middle of the pitch it is given for the high foot/dangerous play all the time and no one would complain.

Must admit, regardless of any rights or wrongs of the decision, as I want Fulham to survive, I’m not complaining.


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Post #503403  Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:01 pm 
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Apart from here, it’s not really mentioned that much. Abramovich took over Chelsea in 1993 as his first season there was our unbeaten league campaign. That’s 28 years ago. Nearly thirty years is a hell of a long time.

Eh? Have you been on the plonk? :12hello-bye:

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Post #503404  Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:54 pm 
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We shouldn't be giving up on qualifying for the Europa.
We can still catch Spurs.
Yes they are 7pts clear but they have a harder run in than us on paper. Not that we can be trusted nowadays...
If we won today and they lost gap would be down to 4......


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The 'Ammers are for real. :26surprise:

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Hate to sound like a..hmm...worry wort isn't the right phrase...I'll go with 'negative'. If we don't win, we're behind Leeds but at least have a better goal differential. Villa has a much better goal differential than we do, so we have to get more points. Obviously same number of points won't cut it.

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What a quandary...hmmm...I loathe both Man Utd and Tottenham obviously. I suppose Man Utd winning is better since we will not catch them but an outside chance at Tottenham. But Tottenham is a '2fer' with them and Mourinho. A draw I suppose if not a Man Utd win. Why can't they both lose? Isn't there something in the rule book that can make that happen? :icon_mrgreen:

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What a quandary...hmmm...I loathe both Man Utd and Tottenham obviously. I suppose Man Utd winning is better since we will not catch them but an outside chance at Tottenham. But Tottenham is a '2fer' with them and Mourinho. A draw I suppose if not a Man Utd win. Why can't they both lose? Isn't there something in the rule book that can make that happen? :icon_mrgreen:

A quandary? Funny no matter what side plays Totts shouldn't ever be a quandary. :14laughter: :1laughter:

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An updated list, 2021, of richest PL owners.

https://sports24.com.ng/top-10-richest- ... er-league/

Just going back to your link Zed, the list unsurprisingly has Manchester City’s Sheikh Mansour as the Premier League’s richest owner with $20.0 billion, Chelsea’s Roman Abramovich second with $11,3 billion and Arsenal’s owner Stan Kroenke third with $10.0 billion.

So Roman ($11.3b) does have more money than Stan ($10.0b), to the tune of $1.3b. That means of their combined wealth ($21.3b), Abramovich has 53% of it and Kroenke has 47% of it. Not a huge difference between them.

But what is interesting is that according to Forbes, Stan’s wife Ann is worth $8.9b. So as a married couple, Stan and Ann are together worth $18.9b. Not only is that $7.6b more than Abramovich, it is only $1.1b less than Mansour, whose ownership of City has allegedly blown everyone else out the game, financially. Mansour and the Kroenke’s wealth combined adds up to $38.9b, of which Mansour’s $20.0b is 51.4% of it and the Kroenke family’s $18.9b is 48.6% of it. Even less of a variance than the percentage difference between Roman and Stan as individuals.

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I'll say it again.

Son is an outright cheat.

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Doesn’t really matter how much Kroenke is worth if he’s a tightwad as far as Arsenal are concerned.

I’d rather that he was strapped for cash and had to sell to someone more committed.

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I'll say it again.

Son is an outright cheat.

And then he adds insult to injury.

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I'll say it again.

Son is an outright cheat.

It's terrible refereeing. I don't understand how the rules are applied anymore. I'd have booked Son for play-acting.

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Doesn’t really matter how much Kroenke is worth if he’s a tightwad as far as Arsenal are concerned.

I’d rather that he was strapped for cash and had to sell to someone more committed.

Good point. I suppose I was trying to show that the only reason we don’t compete with financially doped clubs is Kroenke’s policy not to spend any of his own money on the club, which City and Chelsea’s owners do. It’s not that we can’t compete with them. It’s that Stan has decided we won’t.


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I'll say it again.

Son is an outright cheat.

It's terrible refereeing. I don't understand how the rules are applied anymore. I'd have booked Son for play-acting.

There’s a coincidence. That very thought occurred to me in the past few days. It dawned on me that I no longer understand the laws of the game. After six decades of watching the game it’s become confusing beyond belief. And VAR, which I was originally keen on as I naively believed that it would eradicate poor decisions, has only added to the whole mess. All utterly baffling and seemingly unfair and nonsensical on a regular basis.

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I'll say it again.

Son is an outright cheat.

It's terrible refereeing. I don't understand how the rules are applied anymore. I'd have booked Son for play-acting.


it's ungentlemanly conduct at the very least, if that still exists

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Feel dirty cheering on Utd but it's in our best interests for Spurs to lose......


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Bernard wrote:
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An updated list, 2021, of richest PL owners.

https://sports24.com.ng/top-10-richest- ... er-league/

Just going back to your link Zed, the list unsurprisingly has Manchester City’s Sheikh Mansour as the Premier League’s richest owner with $20.0 billion, Chelsea’s Roman Abramovich second with $11,3 billion and Arsenal’s owner Stan Kroenke third with $10.0 billion.

So Roman ($11.3b) does have more money than Stan ($10.0b), to the tune of $1.3b. That means of their combined wealth ($21.3b), Abramovich has 53% of it and Kroenke has 47% of it. Not a huge difference between them.

But what is interesting is that according to Forbes, Stan’s wife Ann is worth $8.9b. So as a married couple, Stan and Ann are together worth $18.9b. Not only is that $7.6b more than Abramovich, it is only $1.1b less than Mansour, whose ownership of City has allegedly blown everyone else out the game, financially. Mansour and the Kroenke’s wealth combined adds up to $38.9b, of which Mansour’s $20.0b is 51.4% of it and the Kroenke family’s $18.9b is 48.6% of it. Even less of a variance than the percentage difference between Roman and Stan as individuals.

https://www.forbes.com/profile/ann-walt ... 2866378519

Right Bernard. Combined wealth of Ann Walton and Stan is more than Rom alone. Can't see Ann Walton relinquishing monies for Arsenal though anytime soon to Stan.

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Looks like a 4-3-3, unless Ceballos is playing in the no 10 role. Nice to see both Pépé and Martinelli start, we could probably use a shake-up after our two last games.


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Man Utd leads Spurs :58big-emoticons: :21encouragement:

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Come on Arsenal.
Still all to.play for.
Like the look of that team.
Nothing less than 3 points will do.
Utd turned it around Spurs.
Win today and 4 points from 7th and Europa spot


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Goal #3 For Utd. Spurs lose at home after having led. :58big-emoticons:

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Mourinho...hahahahahaha

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Time for the Arsenal show :5encouragement:

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I hate when Man Utd are referred simply as 'United', especially in random conversation someone says 'United'.
They are unbeaten 23 away. Our record of 28 is in jeopardy.

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Sperz used to have a 3 man threat with Kane, Son and Dele Alli. Alli has fallen off badly. They lose Kane and don't replace him adequately they are in deep doo doo.

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Looks like a 4-3-3, unless Ceballos is playing in the no 10 role. Nice to see both Pépé and Martinelli start, we could probably use a shake-up after our two last games.

I don't mind Ceballos playing as the most attacking of a three. But one wonders why neither Emile Smith Rowe or Ødegaard starts. Are they both going to start on Thursday? Also, Saka being asked to play twice a week seems to be risky.

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Bizarrely, Xhaka starting at left back.


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Thanks United for socking it to Spurs

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Our players moving the ball around very neatly. Too early really to say but some excellent performances. Nobody hiding from the ball.


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Sheffield United look absolutely there for the taking but we've not managed to test their keeper yet.

And as I write a decent try by Martinelli.


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Sheffield United look absolutely there for the taking but we've not managed to test their keeper yet.

And as I write a decent try by Martinelli.

And Lacazette!!!!

Brilliant goal.

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1-0 Lacazette slick move.


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Lacazette !!!!!

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That was a lovely goal.


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Excellent. Now more please.

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Haven't created a whole lot of dangerous chances, but there's a completely different energy to the side compared to our last two games. We're pressing really well, and there has been a few good combinations so far.

And as I'm typing, we score a fine goal. Ceballos has started very well today.


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Sheffield United very, very poor. Perfect opposition to try and regain some confidence.


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