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Post #484121  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:53 pm 
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Pricks. Went long all night and the last 3 minutes is the time to play it around at the back.


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Post #484122  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:53 pm 
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How many more times have we got to be taught a lesson. We just fail to learn time and time again.


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Post #484123  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:53 pm 
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We found a way to mess it up :36angers:

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Post #484124  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:55 pm 
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I hate this team

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Post #484125  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:56 pm 
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2 minutes to go put your ******* foot through it.

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Post #484126  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:57 pm 
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We are not out yet but that result makes it difficult. I think Arteta knows , from his body actions, he is nearer to end game.

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Post #484127  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:57 pm 
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*%^@*** joke of a team


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Post #484128  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:59 pm 
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You simply can’t miss 2 one on ones with the keeper at this level.


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Post #484129  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:59 pm 
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Furious with *%^@*** Leno
We are the home team
Few minutes left get the ball up there and let's get a 2nd and he is wasting time
Came and bit us on the *%^@*** arse


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Post #484130  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:01 pm 
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If we are going to get anywhere we have to play Pépé and Aubameyang. Without their goals, pace and movement we won’t get anywhere. I’d go for broke and play them both and Martinelli in Prague


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Post #484131  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:02 pm 
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For me, this is the worst it’s been since pre-Wenger. Absolutely does my head in.


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Post #484132  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:03 pm 
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On one hand you can’t blame Arteta for players missing so many clear chances, the game should have been put to bed, also don’t blame Arteta for the defensive mess up in the last minute yet again. But, I do blame Arteta for not realising that there was space on behind and it needed Players willing to run in. And why weren’t we pressing their gk far more he was awful with his feet. And yet again the tempo is so slow.

All the talk was our season rides on this game and the players still seemingly can’t get themselves up for the game.

The second leg has 0-0 written all over it


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Post #484133  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:06 pm 
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Another game we should have won comfortably but once again we contrive to let in a softish goal. We are still in this tie but I have to say my confidence in Arteta being able to sort this team out is wavering. We seem to have regressed again at the moment when we need to be galvanised for the Europa League run in.


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Post #484134  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:09 pm 
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Rich wrote:
On one hand you can’t blame Arteta for players missing so many clear chances, the game should have been put to bed, also don’t blame Arteta for the defensive mess up in the last minute yet again. But, I do blame Arteta for not realising that there was space on behind and it needed Players willing to run in. And why weren’t we pressing their gk far more he was awful with his feet. And yet again the tempo is so slow.

All the talk was our season rides on this game and the players still seemingly can’t get themselves up for the game.

The second leg has 0-0 written all over it


The game was crying out for earlier substitutions to inject pace and energy but Arteta left it too late.

Why not give Martinelli, Pépé and Aubameyang half an hour to have a real impact on the game.


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Post #484135  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:11 pm 
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Kroenke out.


Indeed, nothing else needs adding anymore.

Those pricks who wanted Usmanov out in favour of wiggy - here is your bed (of nails) now lie in it.

Stop whining! - you got what you wanted.

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Post #484136  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:12 pm 
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We are not winning this competition.
No way we are beating Villarreal or utd on this form.
Pointless going through.
It's a *%^@*** quarter final and no urgency tempo nothing in the first half.
Why did arteta take so long to make the subs???


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Post #484137  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:16 pm 
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I agree that its not Arteta's fault that Saka, Lacazette and Aubameyang missed three fantastic chances. But as Socrates said the tempo was generally sluggish and Arteta didnt seem to react to that.
This really feels like a defeat.


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Post #484138  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:18 pm 
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Arteta just said we were very effective with our high press. What *%^@*** high press???


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Post #484139  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:19 pm 
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david.d wrote:
We are not winning this competition.
No way we are beating Villarreal or utd on this form.
Pointless going through.
It's a *%^@*** quarter final and no urgency tempo nothing in the first half.
Why did arteta take so long to make the subs???

We're not tearing up trees with our bare hands, certainly.
But there is no need to be defeatist.

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Post #484140  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:26 pm 
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Arteta is lost

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Post #484141  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:30 pm 
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Wilts-Gooner wrote:
john1 wrote:
Kroenke out.


Indeed, nothing else needs adding anymore.

Those pricks who wanted Usmanov out in favour of wiggy - here is your bed (of nails) now lie in it.

Stop whining! - you got what you wanted.

Bravo Wilts. :53big-emoticons:

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Post #484142  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:31 pm 
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bromley gooner wrote:
Arteta just said we were very effective with our high press. What *%^@*** high press???


For the two minutes before we scored. You’ve got a think like a manager on “I didn’t see it” mode.


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Post #484143  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:32 pm 
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Bored wrote:
I agree that its not Arteta's fault that Saka, Lacazette and Aubameyang missed three fantastic chances. But as Socrates said the tempo was generally sluggish and Arteta didnt seem to react to that.


He’s *%^@** either way right. Everyone screams he has to drop the captain, he does even though he represents our best chance of scoring. Then he's accused of not bringing the said player on again quick enough.

I agree with LTG, there’s not one issue at play here there are several factors Arteta, lack of quality in personnel, expectation within the club and money.

Everything has gone to *%^@. Im staggered Kroenke has got away with such little stick


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There will be more calls for Arteta to be sacked and to be honest if we get knocked out in the 2nd leg they would be justified. But, don’t we think these players would just do exactly the same to the next manager....and who even is a viable option to take over? Not exactly an exciting proposition for any manager, wholesale squad rebuild needed with no money and an army of players who are past their best, nowhere near good enough and on wages far too high for their status. No natural leaders and more problems than answers


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Wilts-Gooner wrote:
john1 wrote:
Kroenke out.


Indeed, nothing else needs adding anymore.

Those pricks who wanted Usmanov out in favour of wiggy - here is your bed (of nails) now lie in it.

Stop whining! - you got what you wanted.

Who were those people?
I recall at the time the headlines were:
Kronke “I didn’t buy a football team to win things” vs usmanov desperate to take a controlling share to push funds in to the club. Of course he might have been saying what the fans wanted to hear but hasn’t he done that at Everton now.
I can’t remember many people crying out that nasty Usmanov needed to be shoved out of the way so the wonderful Kronke could solely own us


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Post #484146  Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:39 pm 
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There will be more calls for Arteta to be sacked and to be honest if we get knocked out in the 2nd leg they would be justified.


Would it ? I mean if it wasn’t for Arteta sorting out our defence last season we wouldn’t even be in the competition because there was no way we would have beat city and Chelsea in the cup if we still had Emery.

I just don’t know where this ends. Our problems feel terminal


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bromley gooner wrote:
Arteta just said we were very effective with our high press. What *%^@*** high press???


Load of bollix - he must have been watching a different game to me

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Another game we should have won comfortably but once again we contrive to let in a softish goal. We are still in this tie but I have to say my confidence in Arteta being able to sort this team out is wavering. We seem to have regressed again at the moment when we need to be galvanised for the Europa League run in.

It is a worrying sign. We just don't attack these games like we should, being the much, much better team, instead we look nervous and hesitant. It's somewhat understandable considering our inconsistent performances this season, but at some point we need to just grab a hold of ourselves and go get it when it's there for the taking. So many of our good performances seem to come in games people are not expecting us to get a result, like against Leicester and Chelsea.


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He’s *%^@** either way right. Everyone screams he has to drop the captain, he does even though he represents our best chance of scoring. Then he's accused of not bringing the said player on again quick enough.

These two views don't contradict each other at all - it's perfectly reasonable to be okay with dropping Aubameyang in one game when he hasn't been performing consistently all season. That doesn't make him a crap player who shouldn't play any part at all - when it's not working for us he's a great option from the bench and it's equally reasonable to want him to come on sooner.


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One of the problems Arteta has is he picks a side that perform badly - makes some subs who have an impact....but if he plays those subs next game they play badly. The players cannot put a run of consistent performances together as individuals.

The misses are unforgivable, the lack of urgency and tempo is unforgivable. We currently throw in 1 good performance in 4. Even if that flips on its head you’d be miles off competing at the top of the table because you still need to iron out that inconsistency of 1 in 4 poor performances.

We’re absolutely miles away. The talent in the team is not being shown in consistency and effort in games.


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TOP GUN wrote:
Rich wrote:
There will be more calls for Arteta to be sacked and to be honest if we get knocked out in the 2nd leg they would be justified.


Would it ? I mean if it wasn’t for Arteta sorting out our defence last season we wouldn’t even be in the competition because there was no way we would have beat city and Chelsea in the cup if we still had Emery.

I just don’t know where this ends. Our problems feel terminal

I don’t want him sacked but on the basis of this season possibly being a 10th place finish and knocked out by slavia prague in a competition where on paper we should be in the final is not an easy thing for Arteta to survive.


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Rich wrote:
Who were those people?

Nobody. The Usmanov in stuff is honestly just sycophantic nonsense, based completely on uncritically swallowing the PR from an extremely shady character that any football fan should want nowhere near their club. That does not mean you have to like Kroenke as an owner, it's possible to dislike both.


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Detach yourself from the emotion and take a look at the starting line up.

Bellerin, soares and Holding in defence ? I mean pretty average right ? Or is it me?

Xhaka and Partey ? As a pair seem far too defensive for me. Their dogged not controllers of a game.

Saka and Emile Smith Rowe are promising youngsters but won’t do it week in week out.

Does that look a side who can realistically win a European trophy ? To me on paper we look weak.


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Rich wrote:
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Would it ? I mean if it wasn’t for Arteta sorting out our defence last season we wouldn’t even be in the competition because there was no way we would have beat city and Chelsea in the cup if we still had Emery.

I just don’t know where this ends. Our problems feel terminal

I don’t want him sacked but on the basis of this season possibly being a 10th place finish and knocked out by slavia prague in a competition where on paper we should be in the final is not an easy thing for Arteta to survive.


You're probably right but bloody hell that makes it 3 managers in 3 years with the last 2 only lasting around 15 months in their tenures. Even when spurs were serially hiring and firing their managers over and over like Martin Jol and Gerry Francis they gave them 3 years.

What can you realistically achieve in such a short time


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Does that look a side who can realistically win a European trophy ? To me on paper we look weak.

Considering the teams left in the tournament, absolutely. Every single player you mentioned have shown they can play much better than they did today.


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Does that look a side who can realistically win a European trophy ? To me on paper we look weak.

Considering the teams left in the tournament, absolutely. Every single player you mentioned have shown they can play much better than they did today.

I think we look weak really weak based on that team. I wouldn’t expect much


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It's a European quarter final at home .
A chance to play champions league football next season but more importantly win a trophy.
So what the *%^@ was that first half about.
It was like a *%^@*** training game pace we were playing at. No tempo. No urgency. Nothing.
And why wait 15 *%^@*** minutes to make those substitutions with Martinelli coming on 5 minutes earlier. Why not give them 30 minutes at least.
Piss poor from Arteta.
Lacazette goes for the Hollywood goal rather than just finishing it no nonsense.
Only good thing going into next week game is we have to score so there will be no b%*&s%*^ complacency like there was tonight. We have to go for it.


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Rich wrote:
Kronke “I didn’t buy a football team to win things” vs usmanov desperate to take a controlling share to push funds in to the club. Of course he might have been saying what the fans wanted to hear but hasn’t he done that at Everton now.

Usmanov doesn’t own Everton. Moshiri does, who is a former business partner of Usmanov. But that doesn’t mean Usmanov owns Everton, and nor does it mean he should or can be expected to sink huge sums into Everton.

None of us know whether Usmanov would have been a good owner of Arsenal. But what we have seen is what Kroenke is like as Arsenal’s owner. It’s a personal view, but that’s enough to make me wish Usmanov had taken over instead. Despite the point we don’t know what Usmanov would have been like as owner, seeing what Kroenke is like in my view makes it a worthwhile risk.


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david.d wrote:
It's a European quarter final at home .
A chance to play champions league football next season but more importantly win a trophy.
So what the *%^@ was that first half about.
It was like a *%^@*** training game pace we were playing at. No tempo. No urgency. Nothing.
And why wait 15 *%^@*** minutes to make those substitutions with Martinelli coming on 5 minutes earlier. Why not give them 30 minutes at least.
Piss poor from Arteta.
Lacazette goes for the Hollywood goal rather than just finishing it no nonsense.
Only good thing going into next week game is we have to score so there will be no b%*&s%*^ complacency like there was tonight. We have to go for it.

Prague will benefit on home turf most likely, even if we do go for it. Messed up the chance royally today at the Ems.

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Kroenke will benefit from the new CL format starting from 2024. Think he doesn't invest much now, well he won't have to anyway later.

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