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Post #367161  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:01 pm 
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Cost of housing seems to be the problem...politicians need to get the finger out ............and fast.
You are right, but sad to say the social housing boat seems to have been irretrievably holed. Since Thatcher's Right To Buy home ownership has been used to denigrate what was once a proud, if rather tattered at times, Council homes provision. People talk about Brexit as a mistake, but for me it pales into insignificance when looking at the way UK governments of all colours have turned their backs on a basic human and community need over the past 40+ years. All the fine, if sometimes imperfect, work of previous Tory and Labour administrations since the First World War was given away, and with subsidy from the public purse, in an alarmingly short time.

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Post #367162  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:02 pm 
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But to all of you affected, get well soon.

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Post #367163  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:05 pm 
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If anyone wants a gripping sumner read I would highly recommend ’American Dirt’. It’s about a mother and young son trying to escape from a Mexican cartel and get to the U.S.
I read it in a day and a half. Interestingly its received some criticism not about the story or writing but because the author wasn’t Mexican.


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Post #367164  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:11 pm 
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[...he world has its issues, ours is self flagellation and it’s time to admit it
What fascinates me is the weakness of those who wish to rejoin Europe. Why don't they form their equivalent of UKIP, and fight a General Election on the issue? Love or loath him, that is what Farage did. Nobody made it easy for UKIP but they persisted in their campaigns and achieved a referendum. If it is so blindingly obvious that Brexit is a mistake why is no major British political party or a new party taking it up?

It’s too much of a political hot potato. Well lib dems say they would.

Nearly all our major press is controlled by non dom owners who agree with brexit for their own selfish reasons. There isn’t enough of a national movement right to change it. It depends if you believe in democracy or not. I personally don’t vote anymore and am unlikely to ever again.

Season 3 of succession explains this better than I could

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... -president

We aren’t the democracy many believe.

Like Darren said yesterday you will have to let it run it’s course and cause more havoc before the realisation grows. The people who supported it will have to want to change it and going by Andrea Jenkins behaviour that will be a while.

Btw UKIP didn’t force a referendum it was Cameron appealing to the loons in his own party to save his own arse.


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Post #367165  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:45 pm 
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old man of hoy wrote:
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Cost of housing seems to be the problem...politicians need to get the finger out ............and fast.
You are right, but sad to say the social housing boat seems to have been irretrievably holed. Since Thatcher's Right To Buy home ownership has been used to denigrate what was once a proud, if rather tattered at times, Council homes provision. People talk about Brexit as a mistake, but for me it pales into insignificance when looking at the way UK governments of all colours have turned their backs on a basic human and community need over the past 40+ years. All the fine, if sometimes imperfect, work of previous Tory and Labour administrations since the First World War was given away, and with subsidy from the public purse, in an alarmingly short time.


Same in Ireland. The whole way social housing has gone reminds me of the loadsa a money sketch in the Fastshow. Disdain for anyone renting.

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Post #367166  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:54 pm 
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Issa Kaboré - a youth team Man City player they farmed out to their feeder club Troyes was subject to a £17m bid from Forrest. I know City pay decent money to bring these young players to the club, they aren't exactly young players from the surrounding Manchester area, but a) are they that much better than the young players we have? and b) they get some astonishing fees from clubs. I think they've already sold two youth team players I've never heard of for £14m and £12m respectively. Probably with buy back clauses.

I think we need to learn from this. No harm in selling a highly rated youth team player as long as you put a decent buy back clause in. Sell for £5-10m, have a buy-back at £30m - you're only going to trigger the buy back if you consider the player is now good enough for your first team, and if a player is considered good enough for our first team £30m is probably half what he'd cost on an open market.

in a similar note I'm seeing us being linked to Bennecar (our former youth team player) for £40m.


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Post #367167  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:56 pm 
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Jesus looking sharp. Although he's turning Pablo Mari far too easily in training. Mari clearly not where we need to be now. Struggling to shift him even for a nominal fee it seems.


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Post #367168  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:58 pm 
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And we're losing. 1 nil now.


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And 2 nil now. :22cry:


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Post #367170  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:05 pm 
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2-0 down after 29 minutes vs Nurnberg in our first pre-season friendly. Pitchforks at the ready!


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Post #367171  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:15 pm 
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And 2 nil now. :22cry:


Just like old times :1laughter:


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Post #367172  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:15 pm 
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Watched Arsenal play pre season friendlies for years. At ibrox to the valley and back again. My advice ? There’s absolutely nothing to be gleaned from them so don’t pay attention what so ever. Average players look amazing and amazing players look average.

Watched a fatty version of Arshavin turn up for arsenal at Barnet and another time when we started yaya toure.

Honestly it’s all about fitness.

People trying to analyse a pointless game on twitter. Get a life and watch a cricket game losers


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Post #367173  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:18 pm 
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Watched Arsenal play pre season friendlies for years. At ibrox to the valley and back again. My advice ? There’s absolutely nothing to be gleaned from them so don’t pay attention what so ever. Average players look amazing and amazing players look average.

Watched a fatty version of Arshavin turn up for arsenal at Barnet and another time when we started yaya toure.

Honestly it’s all about fitness.

People trying to analyse a pointless game on twitter. Get a life and watch a cricket game losers


Exactly.

Although if we lose I do think Arteta should be sacked.


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Post #367174  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:20 pm 
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old man of hoy wrote:
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[...he world has its issues, ours is self flagellation and it’s time to admit it

Love or loath him, that is what Farage did. Nobody made it easy for UKIP but they persisted in their campaigns and achieved a referendum.


As TG pointed out, it was Cameron who appeased his loony right-wingers with a referendum in the full and certain knowledge it would be a ‘no’. That went well, didn’t it?

But on your other point Old Man, Farage was no plucky underdog. He played by different rules. UKIP didn’t raise £millions from whist drives and tombola. He was the darling of the right wing media and enjoyed publicity and support you couldn’t buy - and that’s before we start delving into the massive financial support UKIP got from the flaky non-dom’s and Putin’s Russia, all of whom have benefitted massively from the de-stabilisation of Europe.


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Post #367175  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:22 pm 
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Dorries leadership bid

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Imagine it! Just imagine it!!!


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Post #367176  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:30 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Get a life and watch a cricket game losers

Can't stand cricket.

I'd rather watch grass grow - provided there aren't any cricket players blocking the view.


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Although if we lose I do think Arteta should be sacked.


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2 - 1 Now.

Jesus scored at 47 minutes.

About time he pulled his weight. I don't recall him scoring anything for us last season.


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2 - 2 Now.

Elneny scored at 54 minutes.

Top Gun will be pleased as he knows the importance of these games. :12hello-bye:


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2 - 3 now for us. An OG by Nurnberg.


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Fantastic power play in the second half :58big-emoticons:
3 goals in under 15 min :21encouragement:

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2 - 4 Now. :21encouragement:

2 OG's by them sure is helping.

Maybe we didn't need any strikers ?


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Is Saliba in the team?

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Elneny with another good accurate long shot. Well saved by their keeper.

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Nketiah and Jesus looking the real deal.


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2 - 4 Now. :21encouragement:

2 OG's by them sure is helping.

Maybe we didn't need any strikers ?


Arteta in


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socrates wrote:
Arteta in


Wait a sec - They've scored : 3 - 4 now.


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warrior wrote:
socrates wrote:
Arteta in


Wait a sec - They've scored : 3 - 4 now.


Arteta out


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Jesus is very lively :53big-emoticons:

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socrates wrote:
Arteta out

3 - 5 Now.

Artetas job is teetering in the balance here.

That layabout Jesus again !


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warrior wrote:
socrates wrote:
Arteta out

3 - 5 Now.

Artetas job is teetering in the balance here.

That layabout Jesus again !


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I might have a quick punt on Xhaka getting a yellow card in the last 10 minutes.
Usually a pretty safe bet.


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I might have a quick punt on Xhaka getting a yellow card in the last 10 minutes.
Usually a pretty safe bet.


Xhaka was invisible today. Might as well not been on the pitch. Same goes for Saka.


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I wonder what Handwerker’s nickname is. :laughing7:

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Anybody got any idea as to why Tierney was substituted particularly early?

Hopefully that was part of the plan.

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Post #367197  Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:43 pm 
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Jesus scores two, forced 2 own goals that could easily have been his goals anyway. And Elneny scores a 30 yard rocket.

Did anyone who watch it see how and where Marquinhos played?


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Anybody got any idea as to why Tierney was substituted particularly early?

Hopefully that was part of the plan.

Seen a lot of people say it was pre planned for 30 mins on the dot. He was doing full warm down drills so it shouldn’t be injury related.

On a similar note I’m worried we haven’t seen Tomiyasu for ages


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Xhaka was invisible today. Might as well not been on the pitch. Same goes for Saka.

I just assumed he was sent off with a straight red then.


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Apropos Partey. I believe there are insurance policies for clubs that cover players’ career ending injuries. I’m not sure if they pay out an amount equivalent to the wages for the life of their contract or the loss of value of the player or some combination. Or neither. Does anyone know how it works
Is there similar insurance cover for the loss of 45 million (if TP) can no longer play for us with no transfer value either
I very much doubt it (in fact I run the risk of scorn even asking)but was curious if there was a carrier willing to take that risk such as Mendy Greenwood Partey(I know these all are still unproven in a court of law…I’m asking hypothetically). If these three become football pariahs there’s a 100 million quids worth of value down the khazi
I accept in these cases the clubs can cancel the contract so they’re off the hook for the greengages but it’s an awful big financial hit to take because of the criminality/stupidity of an individual
Anyhow two glorious weeks in Val de Lobo coming to a close. Thanks Portugal. Brilliant. Back to Philly Sunday


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