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Post #541001  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:48 pm 
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Might just be that I haven't noticed it before because it doesn't get posted on Arsenal forums when it concerns other teams, but there's a huge wave of criticism against this desicion coming from supposed credible pundits and journalists. Has it always been like this?


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All these postponements suit one team in particular, Man City. They have a big squad with the smallest difference in quality between starting and 2nd 11. They’ve also been quite fortunate that none of their opponents on any particular week haven’t had to postpone, meaning they can play out their fixtures like a normal season. Add in that with the disruption of players isolating teams who have settled squads and long term managers will be better off. They will walk the league this season and it wouldn’t surprise me to see them finally win the champions league


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Might just be that I haven't noticed it before because it doesn't get posted on Arsenal forums when it concerns other teams, but there's a huge wave of criticism against this desicion coming from supposed credible pundits and journalists. Has it always been like this?

Well let’s put it this way. I can’t recall reading of a single complaint against any of the other teams up till now.

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Post #541004  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:10 pm 
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Hazuki wrote:
Might just be that I haven't noticed it before because it doesn't get posted on Arsenal forums when it concerns other teams, but there's a huge wave of criticism against this desicion coming from supposed credible pundits and journalists. Has it always been like this?

It’s always been this way. I’ll never forget Mike Langleys ridiculous daily mirror hatch jobs when we had the audacity to Sign Dennis Bergkamp. Sour old *%^@

The one that sticks in my mind is after the old Trafford van horse face incident when the footballing world decided Arsenal were terrorists


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Post #541005  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:23 pm 
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Not that bothered by the meeja reaction to Arsenal for the postponed match. Its up to the Premier League to decide whether or not we fulfilled their criteria. Any gripes should be taken up with them.


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Post #541006  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:35 pm 
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I recall Jack Kelsey and Danny Clapton playing in an England v Wales match in the afternoon at Villa Park and then turning out against Juve in the evening at Highbury!
If you're talking about the 70s - and Talbot playing 70 games in 1979/80 during our endless-replays era - I hear what you're saying. But, as for the era of Kelsey and Clapton, there was no League Cup and no European football (for Arsenal, anyway). With barely 45 games a season (for Clapton, at least - did his one England cap really coincide with a match against Juventus the same evening?), the likes of those two were probably pleased to occasionally play a couple of games a day to relieve the endless football-less boredom of the rest of the year.
Yes 60s/70s/80s there were plenty of games in a season, though you are right about the Jack/Danny era, there were less. And yes, it is true about those two playing two games in a day - 2-2 draw in the Home International in Birmingham and then travelling back to London for a famous 3-1 win over Juve in the evening. Although it was a 'friendly' the match was taken seriously by both sides - Jack played with a groin injury and Danny played half the match. Over 50,000 attended - the win was big news at the time.

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Post #541007  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:36 pm 
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Appalling decision

back in the day john Radford would have played a game in the morning, one in Africa in the afternoon whilst having bird flu and would have got fingered by jimmy saville as well. Games gone mad.
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Just got back home from playing tennis. Feeling of relief at the news of the postponement.

They let you out of Australia, then?

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old man of hoy wrote:
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Just got back home from playing tennis. Feeling of relief at the news of the postponement.

They let you out of Australia, then?

Threw me out more like. :icon_mrgreen:

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long time gooner wrote:
Hazuki wrote:
Might just be that I haven't noticed it before because it doesn't get posted on Arsenal forums when it concerns other teams, but there's a huge wave of criticism against this desicion coming from supposed credible pundits and journalists. Has it always been like this?

Well let’s put it this way. I can’t recall reading of a single complaint against any of the other teams up till now.

Had TalkShite radio on in the background as I pottered about yesterday evening, whose programming was basically an endless stream of idiots moaning about Arsenal and talking, well, shite. I put some music on instead, which I should have done in the first place.


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Martinez. Not at all helpful. Doh!!

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Martinez. Not at all helpful. Doh!!

Maybe he’ll start concentrating on his own performances instead of mentioning Arsenal every time he speaks. Decent gk but perhaps the 30 or so games he played between the end of that season with us and his start with Villa was the outlier in his performances. Don’t recall him being that great this year and that is an absolute howler today


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Rich wrote:
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Martinez. Not at all helpful. Doh!!

Maybe he’ll start concentrating on his own performances instead of mentioning Arsenal every time he speaks. Decent gk but perhaps the 30 or so games he played between the end of that season with us and his start with Villa was the outlier in his performances. Don’t recall him being that great this year and that is an absolute howler today

The only games I watch in full are those involving Arsenal, Bayern in big games and Rangers when they play Celtic. So I haven’t seen the error by Martinez today and won’t until MOTD tonight. But Leno was and is a better keeper than him.


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Pleased to hear Watford got a late equaliser away at Newcastle. Would love to see Newcastle get relegated this season.


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Man Utd were heading for a thoroughly undeserved 2-0 victory, but Coutinho has just come on to get an assist for Villa's first goal and then score the second himself. 2-2 now.


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Hazuki wrote:
Man Utd were heading for a thoroughly undeserved 2-0 victory, but Coutinho has just come on to get an assist for Villa's first goal and then score the second himself. 2-2 now.


Uproarious reaction from Villa park at the equaliser. Glorious, I’m finding Rangnick difficult to dislike though, I like my Utd managers more like Panto Villains please. He just looks a bit forlorn on the sidelines :sad5:


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Post #541017  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:40 pm 
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I thought this was interesting regarding the postponement taken from The Guardian:

"...the Premier League has arguably set a precedent that was impossible to unravel. When Leicester’s match at Everton, scheduled for 11 January, was called off the league cited “Covid-19 cases, injuries and players on international duty at the Africa Cup of Nations” as the contributing factors."


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Post #541018  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:44 pm 
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Man Utd were heading for a thoroughly undeserved 2-0 victory, but Coutinho has just come on to get an assist for Villa's first goal and then score the second himself. 2-2 now.

So pleased by the comeback as I was fearing another undeserved win for Man U. We’re playing far better than Man U and Spurs so seeing them pick up wins when playing poorly is grating when we pick up the same 3 points playing well. The optimism I held was that you can’t keep playing badly and winning, or getting last minute winners. So pleasing that Villa came back to give Man U the maximum they deserved. De Gea kept them in it a lot


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Spurs official website gave their response to the game being called off, it was a bit childish and one-eyed and read like something that was trying to be balanced, professional and non-comity all but couldn’t hide that they were fuming that Arsenal weren’t made to play. Save all that for fans forums etc. See Arsenals official response to the Liverpool postponement for how a classy club reacts


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long time gooner wrote:
Just got back home from playing tennis. Feeling of relief at the news of the postponement.

Why ...no TV coverage in the oxygen tent ...?


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Post #541021  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:14 pm 
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Rich wrote:
Spurs official website gave their response to the game being called off, it was a bit childish and one-eyed and read like something that was trying to be balanced, professional and non-comity all but couldn’t hide that they were fuming that Arsenal weren’t made to play. Save all that for fans forums etc. See Arsenals official response to the Liverpool postponement for how a classy club reacts


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..This follows an application from Arsenal to the Premier League on the basis of a combination of COVID, existing and recent injuries and players on international duty at the Africa Cup of Nations.

We are extremely surprised that this application has been approved.

We ourselves were disqualified from the European Conference League after a significant number of COVID cases meant we needed to reschedule a fixture and our application to move our Leicester fixture was not approved - only for it to be subsequently postponed when Leicester applied...


I mean it basically reads ‘Waaaaaaaaah!” :1cry:


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Ash wrote:
Rich wrote:
Spurs official website gave their response to the game being called off, it was a bit childish and one-eyed and read like something that was trying to be balanced, professional and non-comity all but couldn’t hide that they were fuming that Arsenal weren’t made to play. Save all that for fans forums etc. See Arsenals official response to the Liverpool postponement for how a classy club reacts


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..This follows an application from Arsenal to the Premier League on the basis of a combination of COVID, existing and recent injuries and players on international duty at the Africa Cup of Nations.

We are extremely surprised that this application has been approved.

We ourselves were disqualified from the European Conference League after a significant number of COVID cases meant we needed to reschedule a fixture and our application to move our Leicester fixture was not approved - only for it to be subsequently postponed when Leicester applied...


I mean it basically reads ‘Waaaaaaaaah!” :1cry:

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Tottenham weren't 'disqualified' from the Conference League. They had to forfeit one game because of covid, which meant they didn't qualify for the next stage since they'd already lost to Vitesse and Mura (best team in Slovenia to be fair) and drew against Rennes.


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Post #541024  Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:32 pm 
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Hazuki wrote:
Tottenham weren't 'disqualified' from the Conference League. They had to forfeit one game because of covid, which meant they didn't qualify for the next stage since they'd already lost to Vitesse and Mura (best team in Slovenia to be fair) and drew against Rennes.

Most of their fans listen to Phil Collins


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Actually, looking at the Slovenian league, Mura are currently the fifth best team.


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Credit to whoever mocked this one up


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:42laughter:

:1laughter: :1laughter: :1laughter: :8surprise: :14laughter: :14laughter:


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What's happening in Oz Gaz ...?

Morrison Govt seem to have jumped into a real cesspit regarding Djokovic ....... they'll be damned if they do and damned if they don''t .


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Rich wrote:
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classic ...didn't O'Hara end up playing a couple of games for Tottenham .


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What's happening in Oz Gaz ...?

Morrison Govt seem to have jumped into a real cesspit regarding Djokovic ....... they'll be damned if they do and damned if they don''t .

I don’t know one person who thinks he should have been able to enter the country without vaccination. But this govt couldn’t organise a r… in a brothel with a fist full of $50’s, so they totally f…Ed it up. Personally very quiet trying to dodge the virus. After NSW decided it was a good idea to have everyone infected the economic downturn is a lot worse than the lockdown period.

We had a good run up here when the borders were closed but now businesses are in big trouble. We hardly got touched by the virus before and people were really good at social distancing and wearing masks. Now they just don’t go out at all.

It has meant I have watched a lot more of the ashes than I have for at least 20 years. Sitting in front of the tv and writing up my coon collection. Just finished the Roman coins yesterday. In other words doing one of those jobs which for years I said I needed to do.

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Most of their fans listen to Phil Collins

Phil Collins is a Tottenham fan, so I suppose it shows some solidarity.


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Bernard wrote:
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Most of their fans listen to Phil Collins

Phil Collins is a Tottenham fan, so I suppose it shows some solidarity.

Never knew that

Explains a lot


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Look forward to our postponed match against Spurs with a full team. Time to torture them.

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Pleased to hear Watford got a late equaliser away at Newcastle. Would love to see Newcastle get relegated this season.


Joe Willock has now lost his mojo at Newcastle. Poor chap, looks like he will be shifted off to a Championship team soon.

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Hazuki wrote:
Man Utd were heading for a thoroughly undeserved 2-0 victory, but Coutinho has just come on to get an assist for Villa's first goal and then score the second himself. 2-2 now.


Good, that's 2 points dropped for them.

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Kroenke is at number 11 at the 9:50 minute. The Glazers are number 7 since winning the Super Bowl, they were regarded as one of the worse before.

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I wonder if Gooners have changed their view of the Kroenke's as owners now? I haven't but I wouldn't be surprised if some have. And they would have some validity in why they would think so.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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What's happening in Oz Gaz ...?

Morrison Govt seem to have jumped into a real cesspit regarding Djokovic ....... they'll be damned if they do and damned if they don''t .

I don’t know one person who thinks he should have been able to enter the country without vaccination. But this govt couldn’t organise a r… in a brothel with a fist full of $50’s, so they totally f…Ed it up. Personally very quiet trying to dodge the virus. After NSW decided it was a good idea to have everyone infected the economic downturn is a lot worse than the lockdown period.

We had a good run up here when the borders were closed but now businesses are in big trouble. We hardly got touched by the virus before and people were really good at social distancing and wearing masks. Now they just don’t go out at all.

It has meant I have watched a lot more of the ashes than I have for at least 20 years. Sitting in front of the tv and writing up my coon collection. Just finished the Roman coins yesterday. In other words doing one of those jobs which for years I said I needed to do.

Yeah ..... would have been far easier and [ given the furore it has created ] wiser to have banned his entry into the country altogether

Probably a bit before your time

but it reminds me of sh**tstorm that erupted in Australia back in 1971 .......... I was working in Sydney .

Frank Sinatra was touring the country .... he called one of the hotel waitresses "a hooker ".

That blew up big time ; hotel staff refused to serve him , food , drinks , clean his room . Think from memory a couple of concerts got cancelled .

Unions were very big in those days ; Bob Hawke was the big wheel in the ACTU

So anyway Sinatra decides f**&& it I'll go home ........... :laughing7: :laughing7: airline staff joined the boycott ... he couldn't get a flight out .

In the finish Nixon had to send a US plane , land at an Aussie military base to get him home .

Remember the headline at the time .... " Ol Blue Eyes gets blacked "


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