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Post #541881  Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:03 am 
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If he doesn’t it’s a question I’ve asked before. Will Saliba be the most expensive player to have never played a competitive game for his new club? There was that guy, Emiliano Saka, who died in a plane crash shortly after joining Cardiff, but I don’t think he cost £27m.

In comparative prices Clive Allen may be our most expensive player to never play. Paid 1.25 million around 1980. Given what that was worth at the time it was a lot of money.

That’s true. £1.25m back then was probably worth more in the transfer market than £27m when Saliba joined. At least Allen was used to get who I still see as the club’s greatest left back since I’ve been watching them.

I still think ‘greatest of all time’ is a nonsense phrase to use, unless you’ve been watching Arsenal since 1886, and will live until the club no longer exists.

Actually, OMOH and LTG may well be entitled to use the term.


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In comparative prices Clive Allen may be our most expensive player to never play. Paid 1.25 million around 1980. Given what that was worth at the time it was a lot of money.

That’s true. £1.25m back then was probably worth more in the transfer market than £27m when Saliba joined. At least Allen was used to get who I still see as the club’s greatest left back since I’ve been watching them.

I still think ‘greatest of all time’ is a nonsense phrase to use, unless you’ve been watching Arsenal since 1886, and will live until the club no longer exists.

Actually, OMOH and LTG may well be entitled to use the term.

Yes that was a pretty good player we obtained as a result of the deal. And Allen never really set Division 1 alight.

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Puzzling just why we invested so much time in this pursuit. Never once did it look plausible.

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Post #541884  Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:42 am 
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Keep an eye on the relevance here and watch this space

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Puzzling just why we invested so much time in this pursuit. Never once did it look plausible.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/28/dusan-vl ... vgr2Xt-koM

I concur with your views.

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long time gooner wrote:
Puzzling just why we invested so much time in this pursuit. Never once did it look plausible.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/28/dusan-vl ... vgr2Xt-koM


Hi ltg,

It was a bit odd. Maybe we got flirty signals that made us think he could be persuaded. However, given the need for a CF it does seem a little remiss to have let it play out for so long, especially if it leaves us short of striking options.

It does seem a little mad to let all these squad players go when we are effectively only just half way through the season. A spate of injuries or a covid cases and we could be in big trouble.


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Puzzling just why we invested so much time in this pursuit. Never once did it look plausible.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/28/dusan-vl ... vgr2Xt-koM


"...had been coveted by Arsenal but Vlahovic had little interest in joining the Gunners and has instead signed for a club that can offer a regular diet of Champions League football."

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I enjoy not knowing the score beforehand. Also, hearing names banded about on here but never seen.


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There's a nifty little player named George Best in this game. Not too bad actually.


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Radford isn't too bad as well.

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I think its the reverse fixture. Not sure. Yeah, that Radford boy isn't that bad. The referees were helping Man Utd even back then it seems.

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Post #541892  Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:51 am 
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Bernard wrote:

I still think ‘greatest of all time’ is a nonsense phrase to use, unless you’ve been watching Arsenal since 1886, and will live until the club no longer exists.

Actually, OMOH and LTG may well be entitled to use the term.


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Bernard wrote:
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In comparative prices Clive Allen may be our most expensive player to never play. Paid 1.25 million around 1980. Given what that was worth at the time it was a lot of money.

That’s true. £1.25m back then was probably worth more in the transfer market than £27m when Saliba joined. At least Allen was used to get who I still see as the club’s greatest left back since I’ve been watching them.

I still think ‘greatest of all time’ is a nonsense phrase to use, unless you’ve been watching Arsenal since 1886, and will live until the club no longer exists.

Actually, OMOH and LTG may well be entitled to use the term.

I’m flattered that you think that I will live until the club no longer exists. Although that is a little worrying for the club.

Possibly more likely if we were Derby County.

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Ash wrote:
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I still think ‘greatest of all time’ is a nonsense phrase to use, unless you’ve been watching Arsenal since 1886, and will live until the club no longer exists.

Actually, OMOH and LTG may well be entitled to use the term.


:happy11: :happy11: :happy11:

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I'll tell you about my conversation with Henry Norris one day...

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Aussie winning tennis Slam - maybe all is not so bad in our crazy world. Oh my Margaret and Evonne from so long ago...

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Another of our players at the ACON. He had quite flown under the radar for me.

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long time gooner wrote:
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I still think ‘greatest of all time’ is a nonsense phrase to use, unless you’ve been watching Arsenal since 1886, and will live until the club no longer exists.

Actually, OMOH and LTG may well be entitled to use the term.

I’m flattered that you think that I will live until the club no longer exists. Although that is a little worrying for the club.

Possibly more likely if we were Derby County.

Well you did get the Victoria Cross at Agincourt, although I suppose it was the Henry V Cross then.


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Were Arsenal v Man Utd & Liverpool, 'always' big matches?

Always meaning before you were born.

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Puzzling just why we invested so much time in this pursuit. Never once did it look plausible.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/28/dusan-vl ... vgr2Xt-koM

Did we invest that much effort, though? I posted a couple of weeks ago that I didn't think Vlahovic had the slightest interest in joining us, and if an idiot like me can see it, I suspect the bigwigs at Arsenal did as well. I wouldn't be surprised if approximately 98 per cent of the articles in the last fortnight about this geezer were generated by either Fiorentina or his management team to add zeroes to his transfer fee or wages.

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Stuck a cheeky 25 quid on Douglas Luiz joining us by Wednesday at 4 to 1


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Possibly more likely if we were Derby County.

Derby is actually the second worse place I’ve ever been to in terms of being poverty stricken. Must have been when my dad took me to my first away game there. We definitely went to a 2-2 draw when Charlie George scored both our goals (he later joined them). All the Arsenal fans were saying what an utter dump it was. I have been back to Derby a few times and it’s much improved.

The worse place was the Gorbals in Glasgow. We went to a few family holidays in Scotland and took a trip to Glasgow one time. I asked my dad to take me to see both Ibrox and Parkhead, as Celtic Park often seemed to be called back then. Purely because Rangers and Celtic were such famous clubs. Anyway, whilst in Glasgow my dad took us through the Gorbals, which I think is somewhere between Ibrox and Parkhead. I still remember it to this day, and it must have been sometime during the 1960s.

The Gorbals was so bad it was frightening. I’ve seen Arsenal play at Celtic a couple of times, once in a friendly and once in the Champions League when Eduardo famously got us a penalty. One of those times I went to see the Gorbals again, and it’s nothing like in the 1960s. All the old tenaments knocked down. Let me say I still wouldn’t want to live there. But the Gorbals is nothing remotely like as bad as it used to be. The cab driver who took me there said it was going to be nothing like how I remembered it, and he was right.


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mcquilkie wrote:
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Puzzling just why we invested so much time in this pursuit. Never once did it look plausible.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/28/dusan-vl ... vgr2Xt-koM

Did we invest that much effort, though? I posted a couple of weeks ago that I didn't think Vlahovic had the slightest interest in joining us, and if an idiot like me can see it, I suspect the bigwigs at Arsenal did as well. I wouldn't be surprised if approximately 98 per cent of the articles in the last fortnight about this geezer were generated by either Fiorentina or his management team to add zeroes to his transfer fee or wages.

Unless he tried to give the impression he would join us, I suspect you’re right Mcquilkie. Either that or Edu is a complete thicko.


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Bernard wrote:
The Gorbals was so bad it was frightening. I’ve seen Arsenal play at Celtic a couple of times, once in a friendly and once in the Champions League when Eduardo famously got us a penalty. One of those times I went to see the Gorbals again, and it’s nothing like in the 1960s. All the old tenaments knocked down. Let me say I still wouldn’t want to live there. But the Gorbals is nothing remotely like as bad as it used to be.

Hi Bernard, I'm sure you wouldn't post for no reason, but saying that the Gorbals was so bad it was frightening, and then not adding any further information, is a bit tantalising. As an initial question: in what way was it so bad that it was frightening?

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Bernard wrote:
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Did we invest that much effort, though? I posted a couple of weeks ago that I didn't think Vlahovic had the slightest interest in joining us, and if an idiot like me can see it, I suspect the bigwigs at Arsenal did as well. I wouldn't be surprised if approximately 98 per cent of the articles in the last fortnight about this geezer were generated by either Fiorentina or his management team to add zeroes to his transfer fee or wages.

Unless he tried to give the impression he would join us, I suspect you’re right Mcquilkie. Either that or Edu is a complete thicko.

Good point! And I think we're all hoping that Edu isn't a complete thicko.

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mcquilkie wrote:
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The Gorbals was so bad it was frightening. I’ve seen Arsenal play at Celtic a couple of times, once in a friendly and once in the Champions League when Eduardo famously got us a penalty. One of those times I went to see the Gorbals again, and it’s nothing like in the 1960s. All the old tenaments knocked down. Let me say I still wouldn’t want to live there. But the Gorbals is nothing remotely like as bad as it used to be.

Hi Bernard, I'm sure you wouldn't post for no reason, but saying that the Gorbals was so bad it was frightening, and then not adding any further information, is a bit tantalising. As an initial question: in what way was it so bad that it was frightening?

The whole place felt threatening. Not only the tenement properties but the people.


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Bernard wrote:
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Possibly more likely if we were Derby County.

Derby is actually the second worse place I’ve ever been to in terms of being poverty stricken. Must have been when my dad took me to my first away game there. We definitely went to a 2-2 draw when Charlie George scored both our goals (he later joined them). All the Arsenal fans were saying what an utter dump it was. I have been back to Derby a few times and it’s much improved.

The worse place was the Gorbals in Glasgow. We went to a few family holidays in Scotland and took a trip to Glasgow one time. I asked my dad to take me to see both Ibrox and Parkhead, as Celtic Park often seemed to be called back then. Purely because Rangers and Celtic were such famous clubs. Anyway, whilst in Glasgow my dad took us through the Gorbals, which I think is somewhere between Ibrox and Parkhead. I still remember it to this day, and it must have been sometime during the 1960s.

The Gorbals was so bad it was frightening. I’ve seen Arsenal play at Celtic a couple of times, once in a friendly and once in the Champions League when Eduardo famously got us a penalty. One of those times I went to see the Gorbals again, and it’s nothing like in the 1960s. All the old tenaments knocked down. Let me say I still wouldn’t want to live there. But the Gorbals is nothing remotely like as bad as it used to be. The cab driver who took me there said it was going to be nothing like how I remembered it, and he was right.

Moss Side in Manchester wasn’t too clever either in the seventies and eighties.

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mcquilkie wrote:
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Puzzling just why we invested so much time in this pursuit. Never once did it look plausible.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/01/28/dusan-vl ... vgr2Xt-koM

Did we invest that much effort, though? I posted a couple of weeks ago that I didn't think Vlahovic had the slightest interest in joining us, and if an idiot like me can see it, I suspect the bigwigs at Arsenal did as well. I wouldn't be surprised if approximately 98 per cent of the articles in the last fortnight about this geezer were generated by either Fiorentina or his management team to add zeroes to his transfer fee or wages.

My comment wasn’t about effort expended, it was about time wasted. Unless of course we don’t need a new striker(s).

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Moss Side in Manchester wasn’t too clever either in the seventies and eighties.

Very true. But palatial compared to the Gorbals in the sixties.


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Bernard wrote:
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Moss Side in Manchester wasn’t too clever either in the seventies and eighties.

Very true. But palatial compared to the Gorbals in the sixties.

I’ve never been to the Gorbals, thankfully. I shudder to think what it must have been like then.

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Isak :26surprise:


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Isak :26surprise:

What about him?

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What about him?

He’s been spotted in London in Selfridges


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Isak £70-75m release clause
Osimhen £70m
Calvert-Lewin £60m
Jonathan David £50m

If those are our striker targets, not one of those becomes cheaper in the summer. Feels like we need two of them come the summer.


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What about him?

He’s been spotted in London in Selfridges

Tenuous or what? Is he signing for Chelsea then?

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You’d think that they’d have noticed that before buying him wouldn’t you?

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Rich wrote:
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What about him?

He’s been spotted in London in Selfridges

Partying in a Soho nightclub with Adnan Januzaj.

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Barcelona want to take Aubameyang on loan for 6 months, but they have to move Dembele on first. If we get a striker through the door would it be worth offering Barca a loan swap and brining Dembele to us for 6 months!?


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I’ve thought about some of the value signings the best teams make. Liverpool for example have signed Dias for around £40m which seems a very low price. Other teams might end up paying double that for a winger with Dias goals/assist record etc. The problem is, if these ‘bargain’ players come up then plenty of clubs are probably willing to pay it but the player obviously wants to go to the best teams so naturally they are getting the best bargains of the top players


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Rich wrote:
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He’s been spotted in London in Selfridges

Considering Top Gun’s £25 bet on him joining, has Douglas Luiz been spotted in the Finsbury Park Lidl?


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Why do we keep rejecting offers for Nketiah?
Is it not better to get something now rather than possibly nothing in the summer if he goes abroad.


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