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Post #527601  Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:24 pm 
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A friendly reminder to all competition that Arsenal have a soft underbelly. Good *%^@*** job.


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Post #527602  Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:24 pm 
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Does anyone get the impression we could be taking corners till next year and not score?

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Post #527603  Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:24 pm 
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Impossible ..... What seemed a routine win becomes a struggle for a point.

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Some good movement and attacking intent in 1st half. Still very afraid to shoot. 2nd half has been rubbish. We thought we'd won and now chasing a draw against Fulham who have been terrible. This is not players, this is management and Arteta should take the blame for this mess.

We should be approaching every remaining game like a cup final, but have clearly gone into this one thinking it'll sort itself out because it's only Fulham at home. Unacceptable


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Post #527605  Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:25 pm 
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I wonder if Pépé will try to cut inside and cross it in...


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Post #527606  Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:25 pm 
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Well maybe. Perhaps VAR will stuff us yet again.

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Amazing!!!! I was quite sure that we’d be stuffed by VAR again.

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Post #527608  Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:28 pm 
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I feel worse for fulham than I do happy for us. Ohh here we go on the VAR-y-go round...


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Well taken, but unfortunately one point isn't enough


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Fulham got what they deserved anyway. No efforts on goal other than a complete gift penalty. 10 man defence at all times. And extremely lucky not to concede to Ceballos. They did not deserve to win.

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Hazuki wrote:
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Some good movement and attacking intent in 1st half. Still very afraid to shoot. 2nd half has been rubbish. We thought we'd won and now chasing a draw against Fulham who have been terrible. This is not players, this is management and Arteta should take the blame for this mess.

We should be approaching every remaining game like a cup final, but have clearly gone into this one thinking it'll sort itself out because it's only Fulham at home. Unacceptable


Yep. I've seen improvement in defense, improvement to attack when it became a problem and improvements in adaptability for each match. What is missing is the true will to win and urgency to do so every match. We should have won that at a *%^@*** walk and had to be satisfied with a lucky draw against a relegated club.

I predicted the end of the season would be a slog against relegation opposition and yet million dollar salaries cannot do the same it seems.


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Fulham got what they deserved anyway. No efforts on goal other than a complete gift penalty. 10 man defence at all times. And extremely lucky not to concede to Ceballos. They did not deserve to win.


True. First half should have been 2 or 3 nil.


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Post #527614  Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:57 pm 
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Arteta scorecard...

1. Ability to setup team and tactics -Good
2. Ability to adjust based on in game action - Averag
3. Ability to set a style that others have to worry Bout or how to break down walls of defense - poor

That match could have been a message and turned into a lesson that Arsenal never even learn. Having stayed up and cut sleep on a Sunday night for the first time in ages I think I'll wait till next season before bothering again.


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Hi all

Would anyone be able to shed some light on this ?

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I’m sure my dad played for Arsenal duringWW2. He didn’t talk about it too much
He did say about some of the players like Bastin and the Compton Brothers . Can you check it out for me and let me know if you find out if he got any goals and if he played in any Cup games I’m just watching Arsenal v Fulham on my TV over here in NJ and that’s what made me think of my dad .
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:8angers: :36angers: I blame the Boss. he took out Chambers, Mari and Partey and the ball was hardly ever played to Saka nor were there any through balls into space for our forwards to run on to. It was a repeat of previous games where Gabriel has played and Partey hasn't.

We know our best team now whychange it? Our next game is Friday wtf do they need to rest, if you have to rest one don't make wholesale changes it doesn't frigggin work.

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As I’ve said repeatedly the only consistent thing about us is our inconsistency. A fine performance in Prague followed three days later by a display so underwhelming it resembled a sleeping tablet in non-pill form.

Although some make out we have something to play for in the league because of our easier run in (on paper), I’m finding Premier League games a bit like something you have to get through even if you don’t enjoy it. Les Dawson and others might have said similar to visiting your mother-in-law (although I get on well with mine). The Europa League is way more important and thus interesting. I wonder if the players think the same? I don’t see how they can’t feel the same way.


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https://news.sky.com/story/european-sup ... s-12279432

Interesting news.


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bromley gooner wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/european-super-league-plans-set-to-be-announced-six-english-teams-involved-sky-news-understands-12279432

Interesting news.

So a bit like Kerry Packer and cricket then.

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long time gooner wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/european-super-league-plans-set-to-be-announced-six-english-teams-involved-sky-news-understands-12279432

Interesting news.

So a bit like Kerry Packer and cricket then.

Yes, but lots of opposition to it so I’ll still be surprised if it actually happens.


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So a bit like Kerry Packer and cricket then.

Yes, but lots of opposition to it so I’ll still be surprised if it actually happens.

It sounds truly awful as reported. The ramifications of entering such a limited ‘competition’ are huge. For the clubs, for the players, for the game.

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Yes, but lots of opposition to it so I’ll still be surprised if it actually happens.

It sounds truly awful as reported. The ramifications of entering such a limited ‘competition’ are huge. For the clubs, for the players, for the game.

It isn’t something I’d like to see. But it’s the logical conclusion to the situation whereby all the money in the game is concentrated between a small number of clubs. And the likes of Forest, Derby and Villa have next to no chance of competing at the top of the league.


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bromley gooner wrote:
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It sounds truly awful as reported. The ramifications of entering such a limited ‘competition’ are huge. For the clubs, for the players, for the game.

It isn’t something I’d like to see. But it’s the logical conclusion to the situation whereby all the money in the game is concentrated between a small number of clubs. And the likes of Forest, Derby and Villa have next to no chance of competing at the top of the league.


What I won’t mind is if the threat is used to keep UEFA and FIFA honest. If such a thing is posible. FIFA has been a shitshow over the last few decade as the forthcoming winter world cup in Quatar(!) illustrates.

But then perhaps the threat is coming form the big clubs and will play to their interest anyway.


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bromley gooner wrote:
https://news.sky.com/story/european-super-league-plans-set-to-be-announced-six-english-teams-involved-sky-news-understands-12279432

Interesting news.

The four English clubs named as signing up to it are Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United. The named three from abroad are Juventus from Italy plus Barcelona and Real Madrid from Spain. Interesting that the report says no German or French clubs have, which if true means Bayern and PSG haven’t.


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Kroenke on the board of the proposed league ?

https://arseblog.news/2021/04/report-kr ... er-league/

That would be a complete joke considering he has zero passion for the sport

Sounds pretty disgusting have to say


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Kroenke on the board of the proposed league ?

https://arseblog.news/2021/04/report-kr ... er-league/

That would be a complete joke considering he has zero passion for the sport

Sounds pretty disgusting have to say

Oh wow. Off to hell in a handcart. Just awful.

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Bernard wrote:
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https://news.sky.com/story/european-super-league-plans-set-to-be-announced-six-english-teams-involved-sky-news-understands-12279432

Interesting news.

The four English clubs named as signing up to it are Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United. The named three from abroad are Juventus from Italy plus Barcelona and Real Madrid from Spain. Interesting that the report says no German or French clubs have, which if true means Bayern and PSG haven’t.


The Mirror says five English clubs have signed up to it, adding Manchester City to the four I listed above.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... c4bec0d83b


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Kroenke on the board of the proposed league ?

https://arseblog.news/2021/04/report-kr ... er-league/

That would be a complete joke considering he has zero passion for the sport

Sounds pretty disgusting have to say

Wel, no not exactly. The less effort Stan has to put into the club financially, he's well up for this. Proceeds in the form of TV revenue, sponsorships would take care of that.

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Zed wrote:
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Kroenke on the board of the proposed league ?

https://arseblog.news/2021/04/report-kr ... er-league/

That would be a complete joke considering he has zero passion for the sport

Sounds pretty disgusting have to say

Wel, no not exactly. The less effort Stan has to put into the club financially, he's well up for this. Proceeds in the form of TV revenue, sponsorships would take care of that.


Don’t really understand your point. You think it’s not disgusting ?


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Oh and remember how Richard Scudamore in 2008 suggested forming a "39th game". In essence a version of a Super League.

https://www.themag.co.uk/2018/05/richar ... le-united/

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Zed wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Kroenke on the board of the proposed league ?

https://arseblog.news/2021/04/report-kr ... er-league/

That would be a complete joke considering he has zero passion for the sport

Sounds pretty disgusting have to say

Wel, no not exactly. The less effort Stan has to put into the club financially, he's well up for this. Proceeds in the form of TV revenue, sponsorships would take care of that.


Not sure why anyone is shocked that we are involved, the attraction is obvious to a club struggling to get back to playing CL football. It's a no brainer for Kroenke.


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It is believed Perez will hold the chairman's role in the new league's structure, with Liverpool's John W. Henry, Joel Glazer of Manchester United and Arsenal owner Stan Kroenke as vice-chairmen. [Mail]

Americans massively behind it to protect their shares


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The way var is being used for offsides is ridiculous. It should have been bought in to correct the clear errors. When you’re looking at such close calls today it really isn’t a matter of fact, it becomes a completely subjective and basically pot luck decision because when it’s that close you’re just relying on the subjective view of where the guy fancies drawing the lines, when the frame of the video is stopped and when the ball is deemed to have left the foot/head of the final pass.

On the penalty, first of all that is not a penalty. I think if the ref doesn’t give it then var doesn’t give it - that in itself is fair enough because it’s only meant to overturn clear and obvious errors. So for their penalty I blame the onfield ref less than var IF var is going by the rules of only over turning clear and obvious errors. For my mind I’ve watched that penalty a number of times and the thing that sticks in my throat is we’ve seen tens of penalties far more clear than that not given to us this season.

I still maintain we’ve barely had a single subjective or close var call go our way this season


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When there was a lot of optimistic posts on here about our run in and having designs on finishing 7th possibly, I liked the optimism but had very little faith we'd attain it.

A word has come into more use with this club that I have been using as a reason we wouldn't go too much higher in the table: consistency. More accurately, lack of.

What I really think? We'll finish 9th or 10th, we won't move too much from where we are and I hinted that the club(s) we really need to watch aren't the ones above us but the ones around us, specifically Villa and Leeds.
Everton has a game in hand and are playing better than us and are 4 points ahead. With half a dozen games left, I fear too many things has to happen to catch them. The club we really need to worry about? Leeds. We'll have hard pressed to maintain 9th. We may come down to the final game or two to finish 9th possibly.

I'm also growing increasingly doubtful we'd beat Man Utd in the final if both of us get there. In fact, I think we'd have a tough time with Roma. And assuming we'll get past Villareal is also a bit too optimistic.

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This image went round social media to show the limitations of Elneny. He passed this first time backwards. Look at where smith Rowe is. It’s also the fact Elneny has predetermined that he’s going to play it back before he even gets the pass.


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The worse thing about VAR is that it has taken away the joy of scoring a goal. You can never celebrate until VAR has done it round of checks for offsides, fouls, handballs etc.

I am not sure what the answer is because without it there are so many wrongly awarded goals but it all feels so utterly joyless.


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The worse thing about VAR is that it has taken away the joy of scoring a goal. You can never celebrate until VAR has done it round of checks for offsides, fouls, handballs etc.

I am not sure what the answer is because without it there are so many wrongly awarded goals but it all feels so utterly joyless.

Exactly so.

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The worse thing about VAR is that it has taken away the joy of scoring a goal. You can never celebrate until VAR has done it round of checks for offsides, fouls, handballs etc.

I am not sure what the answer is because without it there are so many wrongly awarded goals but it all feels so utterly joyless.

100%, Every goal has to be analysed these days. Without it I’m not sure there’s that many wrongly awarded goals compared to what is occurring right now.

it’s changed the offside rule, without VAR our disallowed goal would never have been questioned. They are going to have to change the offside rule so it involves daylight or something. The players torso maybe. They are giving fractional marginal decisions

It’s simply a failed experiment


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This image went round social media to show the limitations of Elneny. He passed this first time backwards. Look at where smith Rowe is. It’s also the fact Elneny has predetermined that he’s going to play it back before he even gets the pass.

With Xhaka, ceballos and El Nenny in the same side we were always going to struggle. We need better back up in midfield it’s sideways or back usually


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