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Author: | Ash [ Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:05 am ] |
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socrates wrote: bubblechris wrote: But they say he has been on bail. Does that not mean he has been charged and not just under investigation? If it is Tommy he shouldn't be playing for us. If it isn't then the club should clarify that. Can't love him and loathe him at the same time ffs. Good question bubble, do you need to be actually charged with a crime to be released on bail or can you just be suspected and released on bail pending further enquiries/investigations? I think it may be the latter. After being charged is bail set by a judge. During investigation is ‘police bail’. Similar to Andrew Tate in Romania where he hasn’t been given bail as he’s an obvious flight risk I would imagine, so is in custody whilst being investigated instead |
Author: | TOP GUN [ Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:36 am ] |
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socrates wrote: bubblechris wrote: But they say he has been on bail. Does that not mean he has been charged and not just under investigation? If it is Tommy he shouldn't be playing for us. If it isn't then the club should clarify that. Can't love him and loathe him at the same time ffs. Good question bubble, do you need to be actually charged with a crime to be released on bail or can you just be suspected and released on bail pending further enquiries/investigations? I think it may be the latter. I believe the police can do a pre charge bail whilst the police refer the case to the CPS to decide if they can bring charges. Usually with many of these type of cases there’s usually a lack of physical and forensic evidence that can be used so the cases can fester with the CPS and police over several years whilst they deliberate if there would likely be a successful prosecution basically on who said what. Even more complicated if the accused is in an actual relationship with the accuser making the allegations |
Author: | Rich [ Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:08 pm ] |
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Emile Smith Rowe scored for the Eng U21 tonight |
Author: | Rich [ Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:44 pm ] |
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https://twitter.com/dailyafc/status/163 ... -j6VVZXEoA Man City’s Rodri with an awful tackle on Ødegaard. No penalty given. Haaland pulled out of these internationals as well |
Author: | Decaf [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:29 am ] |
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Ash wrote: socrates wrote: Good question bubble, do you need to be actually charged with a crime to be released on bail or can you just be suspected and released on bail pending further enquiries/investigations? I think it may be the latter. After being charged is bail set by a judge. During investigation is ‘police bail’. Similar to Andrew Tate in Romania where he hasn’t been given bail as he’s an obvious flight risk I would imagine, so is in custody whilst being investigated instead But is there any substance to this? If you google 'Thomas Partey" nothing comes up. You have to look for it by adding other keywords. And it is only social media that is joining the dots. None of the papers (even the tabloids) name names. It is all very concerning, but if there were a strong case, would the media be so coy? Whether or not there is a 'strong case' is what counts legally, and employers cannot go too far beyond that, otherwise you end up with trail by public opinion. |
Author: | bubblechris [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:35 am ] |
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Decaf wrote: Whether or not there is a 'strong case' is what counts legally, and employers cannot go too far beyond that, otherwise you end up with trail by public opinion. Shouldn't the club call the MSM out on this? It must be affecting Thomas as well, how would any of us like it if such things were being associated with us? That or a complete denial only then would most of us accept that it isn't about Thomas. If it is crap which hopefully it is MSM or the likes of Twitter etc should not be allowed to make such postss or assertions. Maybe it's up to Thomas to issue a denial but we all know there are people out there who will believe everything they read without question. An awful situation being made worse by chinese whispers? |
Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:49 am ] |
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Rich wrote: https://twitter.com/dailyafc/status/1639723382429167619?s=46&t=fkwaCrtFB5yR-j6VVZXEoA Man City’s Rodri with an awful tackle on Ødegaard. No penalty given. Haaland pulled out of these internationals as well I suggest that Saka should cut down Grealish at England training with an intent to injure him as an even up. I am a big one for revenge. |
Author: | Gunfire [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:47 am ] |
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bubblechris wrote: [ Maybe it's up to Thomas to issue a denial but we all know there are people out there who will believe everything they read without question. An awful situation being made worse by chinese whispers? Plus the old no smoke without fire line be trotted out. |
Author: | Gunfire [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:50 am ] |
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bubblechris wrote: If it is Tommy he shouldn't be playing for us. If it isn't then the club should clarify that. . That's the worst take on this I've seen. Mere accusation should not be enough to cause someone to lose their livelihood. |
Author: | Decaf [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:58 am ] |
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Gunfire wrote: bubblechris wrote: [ Maybe it's up to Thomas to issue a denial but we all know there are people out there who will believe everything they read without question. An awful situation being made worse by chinese whispers? Plus the old no smoke without fire line be trotted out. social media is about 90% smoke without fire. More heat than light ... |
Author: | TOP GUN [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:30 pm ] |
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Gunfire wrote: bubblechris wrote: If it is Tommy he shouldn't be playing for us. If it isn't then the club should clarify that. . That's the worst take on this I've seen. Mere accusation should not be enough to cause someone to lose their livelihood. Absolutely, look at neymar. Same situation. Video evidence he was being scammed and it was an attempt at extortion |
Author: | Rich [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:09 pm ] |
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Rich wrote: https://twitter.com/dailyafc/status/1639723382429167619?s=46&t=fkwaCrtFB5yR-j6VVZXEoA Man City’s Rodri with an awful tackle on Ødegaard. No penalty given. Haaland pulled out of these internationals as well I suggest that Saka should cut down Grealish at England training with an intent to injure him as an even up. I am a big one for revenge. Well Tierney and Scotland play Spain next…. |
Author: | Rich [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:11 pm ] |
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Foden has had surgery to take his appendix out. Not sure how long recovery period is for that. |
Author: | Ash [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:25 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Foden has had surgery to take his appendix out. Not sure how long recovery period is for that. Depends, is Kiwipete performing the operation?? |
Author: | Ash [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:36 pm ] |
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Fabrizio Romano reporting we (along with probably everyone else) are interested in signing Roméo Lavia from Southampton. Saw that one coming, seemed obvious we’d be interested and it makes a lot of sense. 6 and 8 cover, Prem experience, high ceiling and young. Can’t say I’ve seen much of him tbh. Really we need two in midfield to cover the left 8 and 6. Transfermarkt has his value at £25M so expect Saints to be asking for 50. I’m very curious as what we do next. Keep adding depth coming up and through with young players, or bring in higher profile players in their prime to come in and start now? |
Author: | TOP GUN [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:32 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Foden has had surgery to take his appendix out. Not sure how long recovery period is for that. Couple of weeks. It’s likely city forced him to have a vital organ removed to reduce our chances of winning the league |
Author: | TOP GUN [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:01 pm ] |
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Starboy masterclass at Wembley. What a player. World class |
Author: | Decaf [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:02 pm ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Starboy masterclass at Wembley. What a player. World class And he keeps getting better. |
Author: | Rich [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:00 pm ] |
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Ash wrote: Fabrizio Romano reporting we (along with probably everyone else) are interested in signing Roméo Lavia from Southampton. Saw that one coming, seemed obvious we’d be interested and it makes a lot of sense. 6 and 8 cover, Prem experience, high ceiling and young. Can’t say I’ve seen much of him tbh. Really we need two in midfield to cover the left 8 and 6. Transfermarkt has his value at £25M so expect Saints to be asking for 50. I’m very curious as what we do next. Keep adding depth coming up and through with young players, or bring in higher profile players in their prime to come in and start now? Southampton turned down £40m from Chelsea for Lavia only a few weeks after they signed him this summer Man City have a buy back clause that triggers in 2024 Going forward I think we maintain the age profile of the squad but look now at a mix of potential and ready made. Jesus and Zinchenko at 25 ish are the perfect ready made improvement to the starting 11. |
Author: | Rich [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:01 pm ] |
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Decaf wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Starboy masterclass at Wembley. What a player. World class And he keeps getting better. I can’t think of a right winger who is better than him right now in world football. |
Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:48 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: I suggest that Saka should cut down Grealish at England training with an intent to injure him as an even up. I am a big one for revenge. Well Tierney and Scotland play Spain next…. That’s a clear thought process. |
Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:17 pm ] |
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Conte gone. Another project begins. Entertainment guaranteed at Spurs |
Author: | Zed [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:38 am ] |
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Conte gone. Another project begins. Entertainment guaranteed at Spurs Conte being sacked on MA's birthday as well. |
Author: | Rich [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:14 am ] |
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Conte gone. Another project begins. Entertainment guaranteed at Spurs Mutual consent. That is surely a sacking after the comments he made. There is no way Levy could let him stay. So that is twice in 3 seasons Spurs have sacked a ‘proven winner’ in the home straight of a season in favour of a total rookie. They did it with Mourinho just before a cup final. It also shows that if you play awful football, show no long term plan and show no interest in developing players that the only thing keeping your head above water is results - as soon as they drop off there is nothing left to save you. Compare this to Arteta, who had a far worse run of results than Conte experienced but the future was clear and the ideas and leadership were excellent and worth buying in to and being patient with. |
Author: | TOP GUN [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:45 am ] |
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Worth also noting that if Arsenal were 6th in the table in no way would spurs be sacking their manager. |
Author: | dec [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:10 am ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Worth also noting that if Arsenal were 6th in the table in no way would spurs be sacking their manager. Yep. They have 49 points from 28 games. Last season, they had 48pts from 28 games. |
Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:22 am ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Worth also noting that if Arsenal were 6th in the table in no way would spurs be sacking their manager. I'm not sure that is a given after his comments |
Author: | TOP GUN [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:48 am ] |
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Gaz from Oz wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Worth also noting that if Arsenal were 6th in the table in no way would spurs be sacking their manager. I'm not sure that is a given after his comments He wouldn’t have made those comments if Arsenal were 6th. |
Author: | Rich [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:56 am ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Worth also noting that if Arsenal were 6th in the table in no way would spurs be sacking their manager. Absolutely. They’re consumed by us. |
Author: | Rich [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:03 am ] |
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I wonder what Saka would be like in the position Ødegaard plays? I’m certainly not advocating unbalancing the team and trying something new right now but Saka has the skills to play that role and perhaps there is a case that getting him on the ball even more could help. I don’t necessarily think he’d be an upgrade on what Ødegaard is producing but could be an able deputy if we find someone who could fill in for Saka. Flexibility in positions is clearly something Arteta has identified in his recruitment and squad build. There are not many players in our squad who can only really play their primary position. Going through the squad the only ones I can think of (apart from gk) are Holding, Elneny maybe Nketiah I think all of our defenders can play CB or Full back or with Zinchenko he can play CM Xhaka can play deeper or even in defence Partey plays further forward for Ghana And the entire front line can play in multiple positions epitomised by Trossard It allows him to work with a smaller squad. It’s also something Man City have in abundance as well |
Author: | TOP GUN [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:20 am ] |
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Rich wrote: I wonder what Saka would be like in the position Ødegaard plays? I’m certainly not advocating unbalancing the team and trying something new right now but Saka has the skills to play that role and perhaps there is a case that getting him on the ball even more could help. I don’t necessarily think he’d be an upgrade on what Ødegaard is producing but could be an able deputy if we find someone who could fill in for Saka. Would be such a waste of his strengths. Starboy has absolutely shredded most of the full backs he’s come up against this season. They can’t contain him and resort to kicking him. Absolutely destroyed Luke Shaw at our place and that’s his international team mate. I don’t doubt he could do it to a reasonable standard but honestly moving saka away from his match winning position would be like something Conte would do. |
Author: | Rich [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:16 am ] |
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Only 4 players have scored more goals for England at the age Saka is now….and all 4 of those (Dean, Greaves, Owen, Rooney) were strikers not right wingers |
Author: | AmericanGooner [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:51 am ] |
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Where ever I have traveled, the EPL has dominated in terms of which league people say they watch. https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJI9qdMVAdo?feature=share |
Author: | mcquilkie [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:28 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: I have no idea who this is. Where is omoh or soc when you need them. lol “The biggest regret of my whole football career was leaving White Hart Lane in 1970. My interest weakened after that. I was heartbroken Oddly enough, he was mentioned in the previous post. It's Jimmy Greaves. |
Author: | old man of hoy [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:23 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: I have no idea who this is. Where is omoh or soc when you need them. lol Jimmy Greaves - for many, the greatest of all English strikers.
“The biggest regret of my whole football career was leaving White Hart Lane in 1970. My interest weakened after that. I was heartbroken |
Author: | DHD [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:10 pm ] |
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old man of hoy wrote: AmericanGooner wrote: I have no idea who this is. Where is omoh or soc when you need them. lol Jimmy Greaves - for many, the greatest of all English strikers.“The biggest regret of my whole football career was leaving White Hart Lane in 1970. My interest weakened after that. I was heartbroken Spot on, Old Man. |
Author: | Andy Green [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:35 pm ] |
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DHD wrote: old man of hoy wrote: Jimmy Greaves - for many, the greatest of all English strikers. Spot on, Old Man. Yes, I concur...made it look so easy.....brilliant finisher.....best domestic striker I have seen. But my estimation of him was negatively impacted when I played against him at the end of his career....I played for Eton Manor against Barnet....he was strolling around midfield …probably in his late 30's by then.....best player on the pitch by a mile ….but he was awful...moaning and groaning all game and absolutely coating the poor ref at any opportunity Shame as it spoiled the image I had built up about him |
Author: | DHD [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:56 pm ] |
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Andy Green wrote: DHD wrote: Spot on, Old Man. Yes, I concur...made it look so easy.....brilliant finisher.....best domestic striker I have seen. But my estimation of him was negatively impacted when I played against him at the end of his career....I played for Eton Manor against Barnet....he was strolling around midfield …probably in his late 30's by then.....best player on the pitch by a mile ….but he was awful...moaning and groaning all game and absolutely coating the poor ref at any opportunity Shame as it spoiled the image I had built up about him Good story Andy. At that stage in his career, he was probably pissed. |
Author: | Andy Green [ Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:21 pm ] |
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DHD wrote: Andy Green wrote: Yes, I concur...made it look so easy.....brilliant finisher.....best domestic striker I have seen. But my estimation of him was negatively impacted when I played against him at the end of his career....I played for Eton Manor against Barnet....he was strolling around midfield …probably in his late 30's by then.....best player on the pitch by a mile ….but he was awful...moaning and groaning all game and absolutely coating the poor ref at any opportunity Shame as it spoiled the image I had built up about him Good story Andy. At that stage in his career, he was probably pissed. Actually I never thought of that...you're probably right DHD |
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