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Author:  Rich [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:03 am ]
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Man U have won on 5 of their last 8 visits to Man City.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:16 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Rich wrote:
Big clash of styles for todays game. Arsenal dominate the ball, press from the front, play shorter quick passes and a very high line. Spurs sit off, press in the middle third and play on the quick counter creating a small number of high quality chances.

It is not an unfamiliar clash of styles as this match up happens quite a lot in the league. One interesting narrative that often comes out of these match ups is of the counter attacking team wins then the other team are said to have played in to their hands etc. but if the dominant team win it is rarely said that they team that sits off played in to their hands.

Although in the North London derby at Tottenham near the end of last season, Tottenham dominated the ball from basically the first minute to the last. Including up to when Holding was sent off.


Is that completely true? I’m not going to go back and watch the first 33 minutes until Holding got sent off but my recollection is spurs only really dominated after holding was sent off.
The two screenshots below show the heat map for the first half and the second half. Spurs kicking left to right in both. In the second half it’s clear a lot of the game was played in arsenals half but the first half even with the penalty and red card looks far more even.
Up to the penalty in the 22nd minute my recollection is Arsenal had started pretty well albeit with neither side truly threatening.

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Author:  gooner7 [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:19 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Big clash of styles for todays game. Arsenal dominate the ball, press from the front, play shorter quick passes and a very high line. Spurs sit off, press in the middle third and play on the quick counter creating a small number of high quality chances.

It is not an unfamiliar clash of styles as this match up happens quite a lot in the league. One interesting narrative that often comes out of these match ups is of the counter attacking team wins then the other team are said to have played in to their hands etc. but if the dominant team win it is rarely said that they team that sits off played in to their hands.



Just hope Arteta learnt from the Utd game. We were too open to quick counters through our middle.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:25 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
Rich wrote:
Big clash of styles for todays game. Arsenal dominate the ball, press from the front, play shorter quick passes and a very high line. Spurs sit off, press in the middle third and play on the quick counter creating a small number of high quality chances.

It is not an unfamiliar clash of styles as this match up happens quite a lot in the league. One interesting narrative that often comes out of these match ups is of the counter attacking team wins then the other team are said to have played in to their hands etc. but if the dominant team win it is rarely said that they team that sits off played in to their hands.

Although in the North London derby at Tottenham near the end of last season, Tottenham dominated the ball from basically the first minute to the last. Including up to when Holding was sent off.

https://www.sportingnews.com/uk/amp/soc ... 8nn5zlzphw
This is a test transcript of the game. Backs up my memory that Arsenal started well, then spurs came back at us and in the 22nd minute they got the generous penalty and 9 minutes later Holding was sent off and it was game over and one way traffic. But until then it was at worst a pretty even game
Quote from the match report at 14 minutes
14 mins: It's a potentially foolish suggestion to make in this game, but the action has calmed down a little since Arsenal tore at Spurs in the opening minutes and the hosts then fashioned a few openings of their own.
The visitors look freer at the back and seem to have more space, continuing to play passes around inside their own half. Spurs look like they won't mind that, bearing in mind their speed of attacking threat.

Certainly doesn’t suggest Spurs dominated the game from the first kick?

Author:  Bernard [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:32 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Certainly doesn’t suggest Spurs dominated the game from the first kick?

I’m absolutely stunned you have found reports claiming otherwise. I was at the game and basically my recollection of it is Tottenham outplaying us for the entire game.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:39 am ]
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At least we now definitively know Pep isn’t that good. That bloke Keyes has given the verdict. I am not sure the level of commentators is much better than the quality of politicians.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:09 am ]
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Never seen it but I’ve heard Tony Adams is a contestant in this year’s Strictly Come Dancing. Has be been knocked out yet or is he still in it?

According to a review in the Times this morning. He is bottom of the rankings and is described as being ‘stompy’ and looking like his feet were glued to the floor.

Not a programme that I would ever watch.

Author:  Bernard [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:28 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Never seen it but I’ve heard Tony Adams is a contestant in this year’s Strictly Come Dancing. Has be been knocked out yet or is he still in it?

According to a review in the Times this morning. He is bottom of the rankings and is described as being ‘stompy’ and looking like his feet were glued to the floor.

Not a programme that I would ever watch.

Nor me, but does that mean he’s still in it? I’d have thought the likes of is it Ken Goodwin (or has he retired) and Anton Du Beke (or however he spells his name) would have voted him out by now? Or are viewers allowed to vote contestants out and Arsenal supporters are voting to get others out?

Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:31 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
According to a review in the Times this morning. He is bottom of the rankings and is described as being ‘stompy’ and looking like his feet were glued to the floor.

Not a programme that I would ever watch.

Nor me, but does that mean he’s still in it? I’d have thought the likes of is it Ken Goodwin (or has he retired) and Anton Du Beke (or however he spells his name) would have voted him out by now? Or are viewers allowed to vote contestants out and Arsenal supporters are voting to get others out?

Apparently nobody gets the boot in week 1.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:01 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Never seen it but I’ve heard Tony Adams is a contestant in this year’s Strictly Come Dancing. Has be been knocked out yet or is he still in it?

According to a review in the Times this morning. He is bottom of the rankings and is described as being ‘stompy’ and looking like his feet were glued to the floor.

Not a programme that I would ever watch.

No doubt your a 'Married at First Site' or 'Farmer wants a Wife' fan. Perhaps a renovation program or cooking show might catch your eye, just after you finished watching the Kardashans's or something like that. Never watched any of them.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:03 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Nor me, but does that mean he’s still in it? I’d have thought the likes of is it Ken Goodwin (or has he retired) and Anton Du Beke (or however he spells his name) would have voted him out by now? Or are viewers allowed to vote contestants out and Arsenal supporters are voting to get others out?

Apparently nobody gets the boot in week 1.

Do they have VAR

Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:26 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
According to a review in the Times this morning. He is bottom of the rankings and is described as being ‘stompy’ and looking like his feet were glued to the floor.

Not a programme that I would ever watch.

No doubt your a 'Married at First Site' or 'Farmer wants a Wife' fan. Perhaps a renovation program or cooking show might catch your eye, just after you finished watching the Kardashans's or something like that. Never watched any of them.

Ha ha. I’m more of a Wire, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Line of Duty, Better Call Saul type of watcher.

Author:  Decaf [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:42 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Never seen it but I’ve heard Tony Adams is a contestant in this year’s Strictly Come Dancing. Has be been knocked out yet or is he still in it?

According to a review in the Times this morning. He is bottom of the rankings and is described as being ‘stompy’ and looking like his feet were glued to the floor.

That's pretty much what people said about him as a player ... and yet ....

Author:  Hazuki [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:31 am ]
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Author:  Hazuki [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:59 am ]
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The only attacking player Tottenham have is Bryan Gil, who is yet to play for them this season. If our defense can keep their attacking trio under control we'll have a good chance here. We know what their gameplan will be, they'll be happy to sit back and let us have possession, and then try to hit us on the break. Hopefully we learned a lesson against Man Utd.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:10 am ]
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Hazuki wrote:
The only attacking player Tottenham have is Bryan Gil, who is yet to play for them this season. If our defense can keep their attacking trio under control we'll have a good chance here. We know what their gameplan will be, they'll be happy to sit back and let us have possession, and then try to hit us on the break. Hopefully we learned a lesson against Man Utd.

It’s odd that spurs have huge depth in both defence and defensive mids but in those attacking positions they really don’t have much. Only Kulesevski missing for them today.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:16 am ]
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Very interesting the most and least filled grounds.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/798984764 ... 5x8gs&fs=e

Author:  Hazuki [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:40 am ]
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Good start, we look well up for it

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:44 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
I’m more of a Wire, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Line of Duty, Better Call Saul type of watcher.

:58big-emoticons: I don't know Line of Duty well, but the rest is great television.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:45 am ]
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We are playing well from the start, aggressive so happy about that but feel like if Sperz get a good look at the goal they will score with not many shots on goal.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:46 am ]
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Pattern of the game as expected. Us on the front foot, them looking for counters and set pieces.

Author:  Hazuki [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:48 am ]
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No surprises 15 minutes in, we all knew Arsenal was going to dominate possession and be on the front foot. But we also know Tottenham don't need to create a lot of chances to score.

Author:  Ash [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:49 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Hazuki wrote:
The only attacking player Tottenham have is Bryan Gil, who is yet to play for them this season. If our defense can keep their attacking trio under control we'll have a good chance here. We know what their gameplan will be, they'll be happy to sit back and let us have possession, and then try to hit us on the break. Hopefully we learned a lesson against Man Utd.

It’s odd that spurs have huge depth in both defence and defensive mids but in those attacking positions they really don’t have much. Only Kulesevski missing for them today.


Moura?

Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:49 am ]
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Partey is back!!!!

A hell of a goal.

Author:  Hazuki [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:49 am ]
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PARTEEEY!!!

Author:  Rich [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:50 am ]
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Partey! Huge. 1-0

Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:51 am ]
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Let’s Partey like it’s 1999. :22encouragement:

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:51 am ]
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Partey!!!!! Magnificent!!!!!

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:52 am ]
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That's the Partey that plays for Ghana. He is more attacking from midfield when playing for them when the opportunity permits.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:55 am ]
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(Gabriel) Jesus Christ!

Author:  Rich [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:56 am ]
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That Ramsdale save from Richarlison seemed like it was offside anyway. Would have been called back if it did go in

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:56 am ]
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A second before the half wouldn't be bad.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:58 am ]
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21 passes in the build up to the goal. Wonderful

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Author:  Hazuki [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:59 am ]
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Penalty Tottenham, *%^@

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:59 am ]
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Perisic in far too much space there

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:00 pm ]
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Sh*t

Author:  Hazuki [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:00 pm ]
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Not much to complain about there, Gabriel didn't touch the ball. So unnecessary to put ourselves in that position

Author:  long time gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:00 pm ]
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Shot ourselves in the foot there. Sigh.

So sloppy.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:00 pm ]
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*%^@.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:00 pm ]
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Shot ourselves in the foot again!

Definite penalty. Always a bloody penalty for Spurs. It’s crazy how many penalties they get against us, feels like it’s every single game.

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