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Author:  long time gooner [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:35 pm ]
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Gotta love this. Spotted as I passed through Gatwick North Terminal yesterday. :icon_mrgreen:

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:59 pm ]
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I'm a huge 'chocoholic' (trying to wean myself off the stuff). I'd have bought a few of them just to have around.

Author:  rotterdamnation [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:30 pm ]
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19089139 ... ing-woman/

Please let it not be one of ours

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:39 pm ]
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rotterdamnation wrote:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19089139/premier-league-international-footballer-arrested-raping-woman/

Please let it not be one of ours

Seen lots of online speculation. Rumours it is a 29 year old man.

Not sure if it is making more headlines but these allegations seem to be happening a lot more regularly

Author:  rotterdamnation [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:00 pm ]
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Saw that Rich, loads of rumours that it's Xhaka. Still rumours though, nothing confirmed. Let's hope it's Kane

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:11 pm ]
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rotterdamnation wrote:
Saw that Rich, loads of rumours that it's Xhaka. Still rumours though, nothing confirmed. Let's hope it's Kane

Man arrested at 'address in Barnet'. Worrying. If it's one of our players their contract should be terminated if there is any truth in the allegations.

Author:  Gunfire [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:37 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
rotterdamnation wrote:
Saw that Rich, loads of rumours that it's Xhaka. Still rumours though, nothing confirmed. Let's hope it's Kane

Man arrested at 'address in Barnet'. Worrying. If it's one of our players their contract should be terminated if there is any truth in the allegations.

That's for a court to determine.

Author:  Gunfire [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:43 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
rotterdamnation wrote:
Saw that Rich, loads of rumours that it's Xhaka. Still rumours though, nothing confirmed. Let's hope it's Kane

Man arrested at 'address in Barnet'. Worrying. If it's one of our players their contract should be terminated if there is any truth in the allegations.

People saying Xhaka but then some people are saying he's in Turkey at the moment.

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:59 pm ]
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Gunfire wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Man arrested at 'address in Barnet'. Worrying. If it's one of our players their contract should be terminated if there is any truth in the allegations.

That's for a court to determine.

That's why I said 'if there is any truth in the allegations'. But whoever the player is, if it actually gets as far as a trial it's not exactly a good look.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:20 pm ]
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If it’s one of our players it will become pretty evident rapidly. We have friendly in Germany this week and Orlando later this month

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:33 pm ]
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Marquinhos has been given the No.27 shirt. Feels like the club will have a good look at him in pre season and decide how best to use him for the season, loan or perhaps keeping him for the first half of the year for europa and cups. When Martinelli joined as an 18 year old he played more than people thought in that first season

Author:  long time gooner [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:48 am ]
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A bit of an update, and a few more clues.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/new ... e-20220705

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:19 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
A bit of an update, and a few more clues.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/new ... e-20220705

Interesting read. A few issues that stood out to me, not that I am doubting them. The arrest was at 3am : was that really necessary. The alleged rape happened at a resort and she left and flew home. From where: in the Uk? Otherwise where is the jurisdiction. She appears to have been holidaying with him?

I will look with interest for follow up.

Author:  Decaf [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:48 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
A bit of an update, and a few more clues.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/new ... e-20220705

Interesting read. A few issues that stood out to me, not that I am doubting them. The arrest was at 3am : was that really necessary. The alleged rape happened at a resort and she left and flew home. From where: in the Uk? Otherwise where is the jurisdiction. She appears to have been holidaying with him?

I will look with interest for follow up.

In my youth I once got summonsed for an unpaid traffic fine. They banged on the door at 3 in the morning. When I asked why the horrid hour they said it is because it's when people are most likely to be home!

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:14 am ]
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long time gooner wrote:
A bit of an update, and a few more clues.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/new ... e-20220705

It’s quite peculiar this. It appears it can only be one of our players that mirrors the description.

The allegation is from someone who was staying with the accused so highly likely the players partner. The player being suggested is married. Until Arsenal release some confirmation that the player is with the squad in Germany the rumours will grow and grow fuelled by social media

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:17 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
long time gooner wrote:
A bit of an update, and a few more clues.

https://www.sportbible.com/football/new ... e-20220705

Interesting read. A few issues that stood out to me, not that I am doubting them. The arrest was at 3am : was that really necessary


If the police are trying to avoid the potential publication of arresting someone famous 3am is a good bet. Especially if it’s a delicate and difficult allegation.Everyone has camera phones these days and people tend not to be around at that time. I imagine you can get someone in and out of a police station at that time without too much issue.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:15 am ]
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I’ve checked the ages of the Spurs squad. There are a couple of people who could also fit the profile. 3am - wouldn’t happen here unless they were a security threat. Mind you the police wouldn’t cough up overtime for such a raid in most Aust jurisdictions.

Author:  Zed [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:23 am ]
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Meanwhile in other news, PSG have sacked Pochetino. Well that was anticipated to say the least.

Author:  Zed [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:25 am ]
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According to Chris Wheatley, Partey is with the squad to go to Germany apparently.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:27 am ]
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So now it’s being reported that the alleged player being accused did travel yesterday and is with the squad. This would make it unlikely to be him if it was reported he was in custody. If I was him I’d seriously lawyer up, defamation suits everywhere

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:42 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
So now it’s being reported that the alleged player being accused did travel yesterday and is with the squad. This would make it unlikely to be him if it was reported he was in custody. If I was him I’d seriously lawyer up, defamation suits everywhere

Yeah, I think it's best not to speculate at all with the little amount of info we have, and the way people have been running away with this is pretty damn distasteful. Forget about innocent until proven guilty, we now have players being labeled as a rapist when we don't even know if they've been accused of anything.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:54 am ]
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This also calls into question the way the media handles these matters. There is no reason to publicise information such as the exact age of the player, or the fact that he's "internationally renowned". All it does is throw a bunch of people who fit the description but are innocent into a story about a terrible crime they had nothing to do with, and fuel speculation on social media. Extremely irresponsible journalism in my book.

Author:  Bernard [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:01 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote:
Yeah, I think it's best not to speculate at all with the little amount of info we have, and the way people have been running away with this is pretty damn distasteful. Forget about innocent until proven guilty, we now have players being labeled as a rapist when we don't even know if they've been accused of anything.

Looking back on it I have to agree with this. I know I looked up which Arsenal and Tottenham players are 29 and will play in the World Cup, as well as giving a link to a source saying Davies lives in Barnet and naming him in the headline. But I hope I didn’t go overboard in my previous two posts on the issue.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:02 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
So now it’s being reported that the alleged player being accused did travel yesterday and is with the squad. This would make it unlikely to be him if it was reported he was in custody. If I was him I’d seriously lawyer up, defamation suits everywhere

Yeah, I think it's best not to speculate at all with the little amount of info we have, and the way people have been running away with this is pretty damn distasteful. Forget about innocent until proven guilty, we now have players being labeled as a rapist when we don't even know if they've been accused of anything.

Yep

Seriously he needs to hire johnny depps legal team.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:09 pm ]
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Generally Arsenal players do often tend to live in the Barnet area. Wenger himself was at Totteridge lane

Spurs players more so round Enfield way historically

If I was a footballer I’d want as far away from London as possible personally but there you go

Author:  Bernard [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:35 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Generally Arsenal players do often tend to live in the Barnet area. Wenger himself was at Totteridge lane

Spurs players more so round Enfield way historically

If I was a footballer I’d want as far away from London as possible personally but there you go

I think fan base wise, while there are loads of Tottenham fans in Barnet and loads of Arsenal fans in Enfield, traditionally Barnet is more of an Arsenal borough and Enfield is more of a Tottenham borough. But I’m less sure that applies so much to where players live.

Basically the two clubs grounds and training pitches are so close to each other, and Barnet and Enfield as London boroughs border each other, I think it’s a bit simplistic to generalise like that.

Even by using the term ‘historically’. My dad showed me where Don Howe lived and it was Winchmore Hill, in the Borough of Enfield. Decades ago I used to go to a pub in Winchmore Hill called the Chase Side Tavern. Liam Brady was often there, sometimes with some Arsenal team mates.

Author:  warrior [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:40 pm ]
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Oh my.

PREM STAR 'RAPIST' Premier League international re-arrested on suspicion of two more rapes against different woman

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19099385 ... g-woman-2/

A PREMIER League international footballer arrested on suspicion of rape has been re-arrested for two more attacks against different women.

The player, who is in his late 20s and is due to play at the World Cup in Qatar in November, was detained yesterday after six police cars swooped on a North London address.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... e-attacks/

I have a feeling that it's not an Arsenal player. Could be wrong of course but just a feeling.

Author:  socrates [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:03 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote:
This also calls into question the way the media handles these matters. There is no reason to publicise information such as the exact age of the player, or the fact that he's "internationally renowned". All it does is throw a bunch of people who fit the description but are innocent into a story about a terrible crime they had nothing to do with, and fuel speculation on social media. Extremely irresponsible journalism in my book.


Spot-on Haz,

Its one of the worst aspects of twitter and social media in general. Rumours, speculation and outright lies are spread around the world in seconds and there is no accountability. People reputations are being tarnished, often irrepairably, based on nothing more than heresay, misinformation and quite often spite, jealousy, racism and, when it comes to football players, tribalism.

Its basically trial by social media. Whatever did happen to innocent until proven guilty, presumably it doesn't apply on twitter or twatter as it perhaps should be called.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:23 pm ]
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Uh oh. The reporter who said the player was in Germany has now retracted that and said he’s just found out he’s in back in London. This is going to be painful and will run and run.

Author:  warrior [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:33 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
... presumably it doesn't apply on twitter or twatter as it perhaps should be called.


Or 'YouInstaTwitFace'

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:50 pm ]
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Whoever it is, he’s now facing two more allegations from a different woman. This is not looking good at all.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:55 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
Whoever it is, he’s now facing two more allegations from a different woman. This is not looking good at all.

Yeah, the player in question is done. No way any club is going to be associated with this.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:33 pm ]
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I’ve always found it important to be Frank and Ernest with women. In Enfield I’m frank and in Barnet I’m Ernest usually.

Joking aside I’ve got a daughter and if she made a complaint like this there wouldn’t be a trial by social media as I’d have cut the blokes arms and legs off. Stumpy would have more than a slight issue with his cross field passes trust me. If this turns out to be true I hope the club take the hardest line possible.

Author:  Lutongooner [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:33 pm ]
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The player described in the report plays for one of the best Premier League sides.


That rules out Partey and Xhaka

Author:  DHD [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:34 pm ]
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Hasn’t he recently got married and converted to Islam? That speaks of someone who you’d think had a moral compass.

I clearly don’t know the guy but this stuff just seems out of character.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:36 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Whoever it is, he’s now facing two more allegations from a different woman. This is not looking good at all.

Yeah, the player in question is done. No way any club is going to be associated with this.

Multiple allegations ? If this turns out to be true i don’t think you can play him in the interim. Club policy is one thing but the manager himself strikes me as one who would also tool up to take a hard line.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:38 pm ]
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Lutongooner wrote:
The player described in the report plays for one of the best Premier League sides.


That rules out Partey and Xhaka

It also said the player is the best player at their respective club. Xhaka had a great nights sleep last night then.

Author:  Gunfire [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:05 pm ]
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So it's cleared up them.

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Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:35 pm ]
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Javid and sunak resign. Is this cluster *%^@ of the last 6 years about to end.

Adios Boris. Useless fat criminal and traitor to boot

Author:  DHD [ Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:53 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Javid and sunak resign.



Rats???

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