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Author:  Rich [ Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:31 pm ]
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One thing that always annoyed me back when we were top dogs was our reluctance to strengthen the squad from a position of strength. Liverpool have sadly shown how to do it. They have the most deadly front 3 in the league and make it stronger by adding £40m Jota, then if that wasn’t enough they see the opportunity to make an earlier than planned move for Diaz for another £40m and their forward line is just ridiculous now. And a established and very good CB pair of van Dijk and Matip, with Gomez as back up and they sign Konate for £35m. It is signing players to challenge and be good enough to take a first 11 spot rather than signing up potential.

Author:  Bernard [ Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:49 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
So Ben Whites the latest villain I see. Can’t agree with this stuff.

Nobody has called White a villain. I said his passing has been disappointing considering he was apparently bought for his comfort on the ball. What does that mean anyway, if it doesn’t mean good passing?

Are you telling me you’ve found White’s passing ‘all that’? I said I rate him as a good signing but more for his defending than his passing. Is that what you refer to as calling him a villain?

You seem to have players you can’t stand seeing anything positive about and those employees, as I include Arteta in that observation, who can only be praised.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:59 pm ]
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I’ve seen a bit of criticism saying some of the reserves should have been rotated in more to keep them sharp. I think this missed the point that a lot of our matches were tight wins. Who is to say if we rotated players in we’d have still won those games? The past 3 games probably prove more so that we wouldn’t have won those tight wins we got with our best 11

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:39 pm ]
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Interesting that Charles Watts ranked Tavarez and Sambi at 6/10 the highest of any players on the pitch. The decision not to play Tavarez last match and so totally unbalanced the team looks like amateur hour. But you can bet Arteta will throw Tavarez under the bus in the next 3 games. There will be a need for double marking if some of the Chelsea and Man U players but I suspect Arteta will not change his ways. I am still waiting for someone to explain to me our style of play. It appears every 5 matches we change and other managers quickly figure out how to shut us down.

Author:  gooner7 [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:22 am ]
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Rich wrote:
When was the last time we scored a header from open play? We seem to put a lot of crosses in but it’s a flawed tactic when we don’t have a striker who is a threat in the air or we don’t load the box with players


I was thinking the same. Balls are punted into the box, with hope, not assuredness.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:03 am ]
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I think Liverpool had a big advantage even before the semi final yesterday. They had a comfortable CL night v Benfica at home and rested many of their stars whilst City had a tough game in Madrid. No idea why Pep played his reserve GK in a cup semi against Liverpool. Add in injuries to de Bruyne, dias and Walker and Laporte on the bench, no Rodri it felt like a second string City side. For all the talk of City’s money and squad quality I think it is Liverpool who have the far deeper and better squad.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:57 am ]
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Just watched Man U’s goals. 2 howlers from Norwich, dawdling on the ball in their own box and then Krul makes an easy save from a free kick look difficult, gets two hands to it and just helps it in to the net.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:11 am ]
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Part of the VAR problem is you’re still relying on a human to draw the lines in the right place and stop the tape at the exact moment the ball leaves the attackers foot.
This one doesn’t even look like they’ve taken the line from the Watford players sleeve.

It’s my main gripe this season with the decisions we’ve got. I can’t think of any time we’ve benefitted from a real marginal one, or a poor onfield decision that var won’t over turn. When did we say ‘phew he was lucky to not be sent off there” or something similar?

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Author:  Bernard [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:32 am ]
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For those interested, the Women’s FA Cup semi final with Arsenal playing Chelsea is being shown on BBC Two today between 12.15 pm and 2.35 pm. The game is being played at the Arsenal Women’s home ground in Boreham Wood.

I presume Arsenal got lucky with the draw to be played at Boreham Wood, as the other semi final yesterday between West Ham and Manchester City was played at West Ham Women’s home ground in Dagenham. City won that.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:58 am ]
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Expect West Ham to win today which pushes us down to 7th. We play twice before spurs play again. Can’t see anything but another defeat at Chelsea. Man U go away to Liverpool, if Liverpool play at even 50% of their ability they’ll win that. Then it is a must win at home to Man U with spurs away at Brentford later that day. That has to be a ‘must drop points’ I think.

Looking at Man U’s remaining fixtures and the form of some of the ‘lesser’ teams they play you could make a case for them not winning any of them.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:28 am ]
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Worst differentials between Goals & Expected Goals in the Premier League

17 Leeds -9.0
18 Watford -9.1
19 Arsenal -10.2
20 Brighton -13.6

Add 10 more goals to our season, and that is 10 that an ‘average’ striker should get and we’d be huge shoe ins for 4th

Author:  david.d [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:35 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Expect West Ham to win today which pushes us down to 7th. We play twice before spurs play again. Can’t see anything but another defeat at Chelsea. Man U go away to Liverpool, if Liverpool play at even 50% of their ability they’ll win that. Then it is a must win at home to Man U with spurs away at Brentford later that day. That has to be a ‘must drop points’ I think.

Looking at Man U’s remaining fixtures and the form of some of the ‘lesser’ teams they play you could make a case for them not winning any of them.

Hi Rich
I thought spurs would nail down 4th yesterday.
Them losing presented us with a reprieve to join them on the same points and we messed up again.
0 points from last 3 is a disgrace.
Were we to somehow win our next 2 we would be 3 clear of spurs and the pressure is really on them for the Brentford game.
Sadly can't see anything but a loss against Chelsea.
Another hammering probably.
Utd have a lot of tricky games left where they will definitely drop points as do west ham.
Hopefully Chelsea win today so europa league drops down to 6th.
Still expect spurs to finish 4th but as their result showed yesterday anything is possible.
It could be who loses the fewest fills 4th to 6th.
We look dead on our feet and uninspired.
How has the loss of 2 players derailed us so badly???
Finish out the top 6 and I want Arteta gone.
In a season with no europe and mostly one day a week 7th is Unforgiveable.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:43 pm ]
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Club won’t go anywhere if it continually changes it’s leadership every 2 years. It won’t instil any confidence in its best players if it’s doing this either they’ll *%^@ off in a heartbeat.

6th is about right for us, add 2 strikers 2 midfielders and more experience and there’s a good formula here to move forward. Economically you can’t equip any manager with our squad and expect success. No chance no matter what fairy land you live in. We’ve been punching above our weight for too long.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:20 pm ]
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If West Ham win the Europa League - which is easily possibly, they'll automatically go in to the CL next season, assuming West Ham dont also finish 4th we'll have 5 teams in the CL. If Chelsea win their FA Cup semi final today then the Europa League place for winning the FA Cup will drop to 6th place in the league - if West Ham finish 5th or 6th then I think that Europa place would drop to 7th. The League Cup Europa Conference league position will drop to 7th or 8th in the league (depending on West Ham's situation) as Liverpool won that earlier in the season. Then if Leicester win the Conference league they will automatically go in to the Europa League next year.

We really should finish 5th at worst given the run ins of all the teams. Spurs still big favourites for 4th

Author:  socrates [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:21 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Club won’t go anywhere if it continually changes it’s leadership every 2 years. It won’t instil any confidence in its best players if it’s doing this either they’ll *%^@ off in a heartbeat.

6th is about right for us, add 2 strikers 2 midfielders and more experience and there’s a good formula here to move forward. Economically you can’t equip any manager with our squad and expect success. No chance no matter what fairy land you live in. We’ve been punching above our weight for too long.


Weren't we the biggest spenders in europe last summer? Our squad is no worse than the 6th best in the league so by that token Arteta is not overachieving despite only having one game a week and all the training ground time he wants.

Listen, I don't know if Arteta is the right man for the job or not, in my mind its no better than 50/50. He may be a great coach but that doesn't necessarily translate to him becoming a great manager, we've seen plenty of coaches and no.2s over the years who just couldn't handle the manager's job.

There are so many facets to the managers job, training ground coaching is just one of them. You have to be able to handle big egos and personalities, get the best out of players you may not even like. You have to be able to motivate players, some of whom need an arm around the shoulder and some who need a kick up the backside. You need to learn the art of team selection and master the tactical side of things both pre-game and intra-game. It's not easy and not everybody is cut out for it. Infact, a lot of the best players in history have failed miserably as managers.

Let's see how the rest of the season pans out but its not looking great at the moment.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:24 pm ]
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https://twitter.com/ckftbl/status/15156 ... YrbdvYhhhw

Brooke Norton-Cuffy

He seems like one of the most promising young players we have. The Physique and athleticism he already has at such a young age has allowed him to transition to men’s football very quickly.

Author:  Gunfire [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:34 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
If West Ham win the Europa League - which is easily possibly, they'll automatically go in to the CL next season, assuming West Ham dont also finish 4th we'll have 5 teams in the CL. If Chelsea win their FA Cup semi final today then the Europa League place for winning the FA Cup will drop to 6th place in the league - if West Ham finish 5th or 6th then I think that Europa place would drop to 7th. The League Cup Europa Conference league position will drop to 7th or 8th in the league (depending on West Ham's situation) as Liverpool won that earlier in the season. Then if Leicester win the Conference league they will automatically go in to the Europa League next year.

We really should finish 5th at worst given the run ins of all the teams. Spurs still big favourites for 4th


Not confident about this at all. We are home to Manure and right now they are favourites to win this and we will be behind them and Spurs. 6th is the best we can hope for.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:41 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Club won’t go anywhere if it continually changes it’s leadership every 2 years. It won’t instil any confidence in its best players if it’s doing this either they’ll *%^@ off in a heartbeat.

6th is about right for us, add 2 strikers 2 midfielders and more experience and there’s a good formula here to move forward. Economically you can’t equip any manager with our squad and expect success. No chance no matter what fairy land you live in. We’ve been punching above our weight for too long.


Weren't we the biggest spenders in europe last summer? Our squad is no worse than the 6th best in the league so by that token Arteta is not overachieving despite only having one game a week and all the training ground time he wants.
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I think the squad is probably 6th best, but many were saying a lot worse at the start of the season.

In terms of the 'biggest spenders' tag. Whilst it is true for transfer fees alone there are some misleading parts to it. 1) man U's wage spend takes them above us. 2) Spurs obligation to purchase on 2 of their loan deals takes them above us and 3) I think from the point Arteta was hired to the point of being a proper top 4 team there was probably the need to turn over at least 75% of the squad, somewhere in the region of 20 players maybe.

I'm not defending Arteta per se, but there is a big picture here. We made mistakes by not bringing some players in in january but we're still not anywhere near complete in the squad churn and rebuild phase of getting Arsenal back on track.

I suppose the question is, are we a better team than last year, are we a better team than when Emery was in charge and are we moving in the right direction?

Author:  TOP GUN [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:23 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Club won’t go anywhere if it continually changes it’s leadership every 2 years. It won’t instil any confidence in its best players if it’s doing this either they’ll *%^@ off in a heartbeat.

6th is about right for us, add 2 strikers 2 midfielders and more experience and there’s a good formula here to move forward. Economically you can’t equip any manager with our squad and expect success. No chance no matter what fairy land you live in. We’ve been punching above our weight for too long.


Weren't we the biggest spenders in europe last summer? Our squad is no worse than the 6th best in the league so by that token Arteta is not overachieving despite only having one game a week and all the training ground time he wants.

Listen, I don't know if Arteta is the right man for the job or not, in my mind its no better than 50/50. He may be a great coach but that doesn't necessarily translate to him becoming a great manager, we've seen plenty of coaches and no.2s over the years who just couldn't handle the manager's job.

There are so many facets to the managers job, training ground coaching is just one of them. You have to be able to handle big egos and personalities, get the best out of players you may not even like. You have to be able to motivate players, some of whom need an arm around the shoulder and some who need a kick up the backside. You need to learn the art of team selection and master the tactical side of things both pre-game and intra-game. It's not easy and not everybody is cut out for it. Infact, a lot of the best players in history have failed miserably as managers.

Let's see how the rest of the season pans out but its not looking great at the moment.


I think we have the youngest squad in the league and have been very promising this year. Any coach would struggle with a squad so thin and a lack of adequate strikers. It was always going to come off the rails, the injuries hit and you are calling in championship level replacements. If we had Harry Kane in this side we would be above Chelsea without question.

Conte would have quit by now if we had appointed him instead of Arteta.

It’s all very well wanting to believe that some supreme being controls our future and that our wafer thin squad and zero strikers AREN’T the issue however that’s fantasy. Our fans these days are emulating the spurs fans in the 90s when they just want to continually sack their manager. It’s a 5 year swing we’re halfway through and Unai Emery ? I hope he got some decent compensation from us because no matter what was going to happen he was always on a hiding to nothing.

Author:  long time gooner [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:15 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Expect West Ham to win today which pushes us down to 7th. We play twice before spurs play again. Can’t see anything but another defeat at Chelsea. Man U go away to Liverpool, if Liverpool play at even 50% of their ability they’ll win that. Then it is a must win at home to Man U with spurs away at Brentford later that day. That has to be a ‘must drop points’ I think.

Looking at Man U’s remaining fixtures and the form of some of the ‘lesser’ teams they play you could make a case for them not winning any of them.

It’s always very difficult to predict results late in the season isn’t it?

Burnley helped us out. If only we can help ourselves.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:19 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
Rich wrote:
Expect West Ham to win today which pushes us down to 7th. We play twice before spurs play again. Can’t see anything but another defeat at Chelsea. Man U go away to Liverpool, if Liverpool play at even 50% of their ability they’ll win that. Then it is a must win at home to Man U with spurs away at Brentford later that day. That has to be a ‘must drop points’ I think.

Looking at Man U’s remaining fixtures and the form of some of the ‘lesser’ teams they play you could make a case for them not winning any of them.

It’s always very difficult to predict results late in the season isn’t it?

Burnley helped us out. If only we can help ourselves.

Very much. I didn’t give Burnley much hope even with West Ham having played mid week. 4th can easily be achieved by whoever puts together a run of wins because everyone else will fall over themselves

Author:  Gunfire [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:38 pm ]
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Rich wrote:

I suppose the question is, are we a better team than last year, are we a better team than when Emery was in charge and are we moving in the right direction?


The two recent games against Man City and Liverpool at home would suggest the answer is yes. We outplayed them for large parts of the game. With an upgrade in Midfield and a striker we might well have won those games.

Author:  Rich [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:02 pm ]
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I’ve just realised our game v West Ham falls in between the 2 legs of their Europa semi final. You’d have to think they will be prioritising those games and may rest and rotate for us. Even if they don’t they’ll be far more tired and minds elsewhere. Feels like an open door for us that one, but then so have some recent games!

Author:  grantyboy [ Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:50 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
socrates wrote:

Weren't we the biggest spenders in europe last summer? Our squad is no worse than the 6th best in the league so by that token Arteta is not overachieving despite only having one game a week and all the training ground time he wants.

Listen, I don't know if Arteta is the right man for the job or not, in my mind its no better than 50/50. He may be a great coach but that doesn't necessarily translate to him becoming a great manager, we've seen plenty of coaches and no.2s over the years who just couldn't handle the manager's job.

There are so many facets to the managers job, training ground coaching is just one of them. You have to be able to handle big egos and personalities, get the best out of players you may not even like. You have to be able to motivate players, some of whom need an arm around the shoulder and some who need a kick up the backside. You need to learn the art of team selection and master the tactical side of things both pre-game and intra-game. It's not easy and not everybody is cut out for it. Infact, a lot of the best players in history have failed miserably as managers.

Let's see how the rest of the season pans out but its not looking great at the moment.


I think we have the youngest squad in the league and have been very promising this year. Any coach would struggle with a squad so thin and a lack of adequate strikers. It was always going to come off the rails, the injuries hit and you are calling in championship level replacements. If we had Harry Kane in this side we would be above Chelsea without question.

Conte would have quit by now if we had appointed him instead of Arteta.

It’s all very well wanting to believe that some supreme being controls our future and that our wafer thin squad and zero strikers AREN’T the issue however that’s fantasy. Our fans these days are emulating the spurs fans in the 90s when they just want to continually sack their manager. It’s a 5 year swing we’re halfway through and Unai Emery ? I hope he got some decent compensation from us because no matter what was going to happen he was always on a hiding to nothing.


Some good points raised by you, Rich and Socrates in recent posts and as I ebb and flow through thinking through the experiences of this season at times I’ve agreed with lots of them. There have undoubtably been big improvements in many areas and that gives me optimism for the future. The biggest pessimism for me still comes with attack and it’s not just because we don’t have world class strikers. There is just something missing in the team on how to transition quickly, pass variably, adjust the tempo and usually every play only involves 2 people in synch at any one time.

The crosses were mentioned this week and were pointless, endless circles on the wings and back to midfield last week. Too many touches and The shots that are taken have been individual efforts and largely rubbish.

I would like to see: less touches, faster passes, one twos with a first touch pass to someone who can shoot and do it quickly.

Anything less and I have serious doubts about what this team is supposed to be or where goals are going to come from over the course of a season.

Author:  gooner7 [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:22 am ]
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https://metro.co.uk/2022/04/17/cesc-fab ... wsnow-feed

RIP Steve

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:50 am ]
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grantyboy wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

I think we have the youngest squad in the league and have been very promising this year. Any coach would struggle with a squad so thin and a lack of adequate strikers. It was always going to come off the rails, the injuries hit and you are calling in championship level replacements. If we had Harry Kane in this side we would be above Chelsea without question.

Conte would have quit by now if we had appointed him instead of Arteta.

It’s all very well wanting to believe that some supreme being controls our future and that our wafer thin squad and zero strikers AREN’T the issue however that’s fantasy. Our fans these days are emulating the spurs fans in the 90s when they just want to continually sack their manager. It’s a 5 year swing we’re halfway through and Unai Emery ? I hope he got some decent compensation from us because no matter what was going to happen he was always on a hiding to nothing.


Some good points raised by you, Rich and Socrates in recent posts and as I ebb and flow through thinking through the experiences of this season at times I’ve agreed with lots of them. There have undoubtably been big improvements in many areas and that gives me optimism for the future. The biggest pessimism for me still comes with attack and it’s not just because we don’t have world class strikers. There is just something missing in the team on how to transition quickly, pass variably, adjust the tempo and usually every play only involves 2 people in synch at any one time.

The crosses were mentioned this week and were pointless, endless circles on the wings and back to midfield last week. Too many touches and The shots that are taken have been individual efforts and largely rubbish.

I would like to see: less touches, faster passes, one twos with a first touch pass to someone who can shoot and do it quickly.


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You are right. In some games we look great in others struggle to get our game going. This is partly down to the inexperience of the side but I believe a bigger issue is that we are missing 1 or 2 players who are slick on the ball and have speed of thought with distribution in the middle of the park. Partey is ok at distributing but his game seems more about control and playing on the half turn. Xhaka has been covered in depth, he can’t release the ball without taking 2 touches and slows everything down. The alternatives in the squad are non existent so we have no options. We need 2 players who can move the ball more quickly.

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:53 am ]
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The Mirror imply it wasn’t only a few of us frustrated by White’s passing, but Arteta too?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... dium=email

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:17 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
The Mirror imply it wasn’t only a few of us frustrated by White’s passing, but Arteta too?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... dium=email

He gave some instructions during a break. Stop the press folks

It’s absolutely soul searching to prove a point. Nothing wrong with the blokes passing.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:37 am ]
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Despite shelling out £150million to bring in six new players at the start of the season, Arsenal could sign as many as seven new players in the summer transfer window. Two strikers, a midfielder, a winger, a left-sided centre-back, a right-back and a left-back are all on the cards. That is a major overhaul.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... _like_this

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:21 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Bernard wrote:
The Mirror imply it wasn’t only a few of us frustrated by White’s passing, but Arteta too?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... dium=email

He gave some instructions during a break. Stop the press folks

It’s absolutely soul searching to prove a point. Nothing wrong with the blokes passing.

There’s nothing wrong with his passing. But there’s nothing wrong in saying it’s not been as quite as good as some of us were expecting it to be, considering how comfortable on the ball he was supposed to be, (however ‘comfortable’ is defined).

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:24 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Despite shelling out £150million to bring in six new players at the start of the season, Arsenal could sign as many as seven new players in the summer transfer window. Two strikers, a midfielder, a winger, a left-sided centre-back, a right-back and a left-back are all on the cards. That is a major overhaul.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... _like_this

If it happens it surely supports the theory that Stan is at last financially doping us. If he is, I welcome it.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:25 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
He gave some instructions during a break. Stop the press folks

It’s absolutely soul searching to prove a point. Nothing wrong with the blokes passing.

There’s nothing wrong with his passing. But there’s nothing wrong in saying it’s not been as quite as good as some of us were expecting it to be, considering how comfortable on the ball he was supposed to be, (however ‘comfortable’ is defined).


Then that only shows people were expecting too much. (No change there then)

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:30 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Then that only shows people were expecting too much. (No change there then)

But so much was being made about his being so comfortable on the ball, it’s hardly surprising some were expecting more of his passing. I’ve actually been more impressed with his defending than his passing.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:31 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Despite shelling out £150million to bring in six new players at the start of the season, Arsenal could sign as many as seven new players in the summer transfer window. Two strikers, a midfielder, a winger, a left-sided centre-back, a right-back and a left-back are all on the cards. That is a major overhaul.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... _like_this

If it happens it surely supports the theory that Stan is at last financially doping us. If he is, I welcome it.

Maybe some totting up

New striker 80-100 million
New backup striker 20-35 million
Midfielder 40 million
Winger 25m
Centre back 25m
Fullbacks say 40 for a pair.

Over 200 million in spending worst case if that article is true, I suppose some of this would be offset by the departures of guendouzi, Torreira, mavropanos, aubameyang, possibly ainsley, Mari and nelson.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:35 am ]
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Bernard wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Then that only shows people were expecting too much. (No change there then)

But so much was being made about his being so comfortable on the ball, it’s hardly surprising some were expecting more of his passing. I’ve actually been more impressed with his defending than his passing.

His distribution is very good. He often hits cross field passes that find our wingers in space. I think our fans are expecting 75yard Hollywood type assists. Divs

Also Funny how nobody was moaning about his distribution when our back 4 looked very solid before the injuries and peoples opinions seem to have changed when we have had to put Cédric, Tavares, Nketiah & Lokonga back in our side. Obviously those 2 things aren’t linked at all.

Author:  Bernard [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:46 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Bernard wrote:
But so much was being made about his being so comfortable on the ball, it’s hardly surprising some were expecting more of his passing. I’ve actually been more impressed with his defending than his passing.

His distribution is very good. He often hits cross field passes that find our wingers in space. I think our fans are expecting 75yard Hollywood type assists. Divs

Also Funny how nobody was moaning about his distribution when our back 4 looked very solid before the injuries and peoples opinions seem to have changed when we have had to put Cédric, Tavares, Nketiah & Lokonga back in our side. Obviously those 2 things aren’t linked at all.

I wonder if you’re making a bit too much of this. Cédric has let nobody down since being in the side recently, Tavares played well at Southampton and Lokonga was decent enough. I also doubt anybody was expecting 75 yard Hollywood assists.

Perhaps various people mean different things by ‘comfortable on the ball’. But it made me expect a higher level of passing than, based on the evidence so far this season, White appears to have.

Author:  Decaf [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:24 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Despite shelling out £150million to bring in six new players at the start of the season, Arsenal could sign as many as seven new players in the summer transfer window. Two strikers, a midfielder, a winger, a left-sided centre-back, a right-back and a left-back are all on the cards. That is a major overhaul.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... _like_this

The worry is that if we don't get fourth (as is looking likely) we won't be able to attract the calibre of player we need, even if we do have the funds and will. We don't need another frustrating transfer window chasing basically unattainable players. Having said that, we didn't do too badly last summer and hopefully we can see a repeat of that sort of business.

It's probably important for our progress that we get into the Europa, but it really does not set the pulse racing at all!

Author:  Decaf [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

TOP GUN wrote:
socrates wrote:

Weren't we the biggest spenders in europe last summer? Our squad is no worse than the 6th best in the league so by that token Arteta is not overachieving despite only having one game a week and all the training ground time he wants.

Listen, I don't know if Arteta is the right man for the job or not, in my mind its no better than 50/50. He may be a great coach but that doesn't necessarily translate to him becoming a great manager, we've seen plenty of coaches and no.2s over the years who just couldn't handle the manager's job.

There are so many facets to the managers job, training ground coaching is just one of them. You have to be able to handle big egos and personalities, get the best out of players you may not even like. You have to be able to motivate players, some of whom need an arm around the shoulder and some who need a kick up the backside. You need to learn the art of team selection and master the tactical side of things both pre-game and intra-game. It's not easy and not everybody is cut out for it. Infact, a lot of the best players in history have failed miserably as managers.

Let's see how the rest of the season pans out but its not looking great at the moment.


I think we have the youngest squad in the league and have been very promising this year. Any coach would struggle with a squad so thin and a lack of adequate strikers. It was always going to come off the rails, the injuries hit and you are calling in championship level replacements. If we had Harry Kane in this side we would be above Chelsea without question.

Conte would have quit by now if we had appointed him instead of Arteta.

It’s all very well wanting to believe that some supreme being controls our future and that our wafer thin squad and zero strikers AREN’T the issue however that’s fantasy. Our fans these days are emulating the spurs fans in the 90s when they just want to continually sack their manager. It’s a 5 year swing we’re halfway through and Unai Emery ? I hope he got some decent compensation from us because no matter what was going to happen he was always on a hiding to nothing.

I must say the fans on this forum aren't too bad. Elsewhere on social media it isn't the case. The keywords are 'idiotic' and kneejerk'.

"hooray, you have seen the light. I just hope the board doesnt let him waste more money"

I'm amazed that such dribbling morons have learned how to type!

Author:  socrates [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

Decaf wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Despite shelling out £150million to bring in six new players at the start of the season, Arsenal could sign as many as seven new players in the summer transfer window. Two strikers, a midfielder, a winger, a left-sided centre-back, a right-back and a left-back are all on the cards. That is a major overhaul.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... _like_this

The worry is that if we don't get fourth (as is looking likely) we won't be able to attract the calibre of player we need, even if we do have the funds and will. We don't need another frustrating transfer window chasing basically unattainable players. Having said that, we didn't do too badly last summer and hopefully we can see a repeat of that sort of business.

It's probably important for our progress that we get into the Europa, but it really does not set the pulse racing at all!


Hi Decaf,

Seasons without european football are pretty boring. At least with the europa we get some midweek football and a chance for some of the back-ups and youngsters to get some game time, I think we have suffered this season with a lack of games for them to gain experience and maintain match sharpness.

I know its not like have been playing scintillating football but an Arsenal game is an Arsenal game and I'd rather see some kind of european football, plus there is the carrot of a CL place for the winner of the Europa League.

Author:  Rich [ Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

socrates wrote:
Decaf wrote:
The worry is that if we don't get fourth (as is looking likely) we won't be able to attract the calibre of player we need, even if we do have the funds and will. We don't need another frustrating transfer window chasing basically unattainable players. Having said that, we didn't do too badly last summer and hopefully we can see a repeat of that sort of business.

It's probably important for our progress that we get into the Europa, but it really does not set the pulse racing at all!

Europa league would force much more investment in the squad. We only have 18 senior players currently. 3 of those leave on a free this summer. Turner will I presume replace Leno and we think Saliba will come back in. That still leaves a squad of 16 players only. Players on loan currently I can't see any of them with much of a future and a lot of those have their contracts running down. For a season in Europe we'd need at least 23 senior players in my opinion - 2 for each position and 3 GKs (I think Arteta has said that is what he wants from a squad). It is an even bigger summer than last year for me
Hi Decaf,

Seasons without european football are pretty boring. At least with the europa we get some midweek football and a chance for some of the back-ups and youngsters to get some game time, I think we have suffered this season with a lack of games for them to gain experience and maintain match sharpness.

I know its not like have been playing scintillating football but an Arsenal game is an Arsenal game and I'd rather see some kind of european football, plus there is the carrot of a CL place for the winner of the Europa League.

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