I have to eat a lot of humble pie re Ramsdale.
i know still early days but i was one of many who didn't want him anywhere near Arsenal as he was crap.....
His first few performances have been excellent. Very comfortable with the ball at this feet and love the way he comes for the ball and claims it.
Also seems to have a great personality and authority about him compared to Leno.
Hope he continues making me eat humble pie.
I hope the rumours of Leno getting the spurs game are just that!
Arteta would be an absolute idiot to take out Ramsdale who is riding high on confidence but who would actually be surprised if he did bring Leno back in.
Surely Balogun didnt sign a new contract to be put back in with the Under 23s??
He hasnt even made the bench the last few league games. Seems he is in direct competition with Martinelli for a place on the bench. I hope he is one of these kids who will be humble and bide his time. Unfortunately no european football to give these kids some game time which is why the Europa league conference was a big miss.
Also please no Xhaka on sunday.
What sort of message does that send to Lokonga and AMN if he comes straight back in.
Make him wait and stick with the winning teams of last 2 games.

Like i said i'm happy to eat humble pie re Ramsdale.
Clearly Arteta can do no wrong in your eyes.
Cant think of many who would legislate dropping a keeper high on confidence and on form last couple of games to bring back someone who is out of form.
But hey whatever suits your narrative.

Like i said i'm happy to eat humble pie re Ramsdale.
Clearly Arteta can do no wrong in your eyes.
Cant think of many who would legislate dropping a keeper high on confidence and on form last couple of games to bring back someone who is out of form.
But hey whatever suits your narrative.

Arteta just might go with experience, but who knows. If it is Ramsdale he most likely is aware of the pressure of this derby

Our heavily deplete team got whupped by no less than City and Chelsea and the keeper is the villain.

Then our full strength side beats the two bottom teams in the league and our keeper is the hero?

I'm excited by Ramsdale, and unlike you, thought highly of him before we signed.

But I would like a bigger and more representative sample than that before drawing any firm conclusions.

I'm glad we now have a GK who is willing to come forward and claim the crosses. That's being proactive. And gives defenders confidence too.
Waiting on the line to save is reactive.

Surely the most important factor is choosing the right occasions to come for crosses or stay on the line. Sometimes it’s right to come for crosses. Other times it’s the wrong decision to come for crosses. Likewise it can be the right decision to wait on the line but there will be times when it can be the wrong decision.

Having the ability to come for crosses gives you an option you don't have if you can't. (Nearly) Everyone has the ability to wait.

Don’t know how to tell you this mate but we don’t play spurs till Sunday and I doubt he’s getting dropped anyway. You’re talking about nothing.

It’s all extremes right and the moment Ramsdale makes an even borderline mistake both he and the manager will get it both barrels. It’s all so predictable and boring now. It’s not even anything to do with the manager, support your club d*******.

You’re right Decaf. It’s very early days but Ramsdale looks good in the air and confident in dealing with crosses. But, and at this stage it’s an important point to make, he hasn’t kept out a shot that you wouldn’t expect a semi-competent keeper to keep save.

I’m not going to say all the shots he’s saved so far would have been kept out by my mother-in-law who’s in her eighties. I will say, however, that if he’d let any of the shots he has saved for Arsenal so far go in, they would and should have been put down as a goalkeeping error.

Ramsdale has started well but it’s a little early to declare him the next Neuer.

Bernard
No one has declared him the next Neuer!
Just said he should stay in on form.

I appreciate that David. That’s why I didn’t say anyone had. I was just trying to find a slightly lighthearted way of emphasising my agreement with Decaf that it’s a little soon, three games against poor opposition, to make hard judgments.

I thought it was unacceptable when people started slagging Ramsdale off on other social media outlets when he hadn’t even played for the club. No one here has gone to that level here, in reverse, by praising him. But he’s played against WBA, Norwich and Burnley. Let’s keep calm. He still has it all to do.

The main issue about Leno or Ramsdale is exactly the same as the main issue about Leno or Martinez (imho). Ramsdale seems to work as part of the defence, as did Martinez. Leno may be a better shot stopper but, even if he is, that doesn't make him the best gk for us.

Personally, I'd expect to see Leno tomorrow and Ramsdale at the weekend. Chopping and changing keepers rarely works, unless there's a very good reason for it. It might be a high pressure game, but Ramsdale looks as if he has had plenty of those over the last three years. He's got experience of working with this defence (+ Partey) and Leno hasn't.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I’m aware you didn’t say Leno was unable to come for crosses. I was just saying why I think it would be verging on ridiculous if anyone did.

Greetings Pode
If you are Burnley you want someone who can stop lots of shot and hoof it a long way towards where the neanderthals have gathered for a knock-down. I'm not sure if Sheffield United played that way, but I'd imagine that the kind of skills you need for an ambitious team would not be at a premium for the relegation fodder teams where Ramsdale cut his teeth. Not only does your keeper need to be good with his feet, you need a keeper who can 'sweep' and will allow you to play a high line, for example. That means the keeper has to be very quick, and be able to read the game excellently.

Also, the pressure is different, I think. For a lower level keeper, the odd cockup would hardly be noticed if it was mixed up with heroics. Completely different if you are playing for a top side.

Surely the most important factor is choosing the right occasions to come for crosses or stay on the line. Sometimes it’s right to come for crosses. Other times it’s the wrong decision to come for crosses. Likewise it can be the right decision to wait on the line but there will be times when it can be the wrong decision.

I suspect if one over-generalises, and I’m not saying you do, you’re likely to ignore the probability that it is wrong for keepers to do the same thing all the time. The better ones will make their decisions according to the specific circumstances they are faced with.

Hi,
Sheffield United weren't expected to be relegation candidates when he went there; had bought ambitiously iirc. Nor were Bournemouth the year before (7th at the beginning of November). Ramsdale seems to be better with his feet than Leno.

I'm not saying he's better than Leno, but he's the one in position, he fits in well with the team and there's no obvious reason to drop him. He's also likely to be with us longer than Leno if it comes to that.

Surely the most important factor is choosing the right occasions to come for crosses or stay on the line. Sometimes it’s right to come for crosses. Other times it’s the wrong decision to come for crosses. Likewise it can be the right decision to wait on the line but there will be times when it can be the wrong decision.

I suspect if one over-generalises, and I’m not saying you do, you’re likely to ignore the probability that it is wrong for keepers to do the same thing all the time. The better ones will make their decisions according to the specific circumstances they are faced with.

Looking forward to tonight’s game. I expect us to win, draw or lose. If Arteta drops Ramsdale he’s an idiot, likewise if he drops Leno he’s also an idiot. If he plays first team players I intend on accusing him of risking Sunday’s result and if he doesn’t I intend on accusing him of being an idiot for not taking the competition seriously.

Looking forward to tonight’s game. I expect us to win, draw or lose. If Arteta drops Ramsdale he’s an idiot, likewise if he drops Leno he’s also an idiot. If he plays first team players I intend on accusing him of risking Sunday’s result and if he doesn’t I intend on accusing him of being an idiot for not taking the competition seriously.

Looking forward to tonight’s game. I expect us to win, draw or lose.

Mustn’t discount the possibility that the game could be postponed. Might be a nice day now but it only takes an asteroid to hit London in the next couple of hours and they’ll have to call it off. We learned that when Tyrannosaurus Rex Albion vs Triceratops Rovers had to be cancelled 66 million years ago.

Why is this even a debate? Sol would be a better debate.

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