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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
Gunfire wrote: gooner7 wrote: Xhaka's lack of speed will always be targeted by opposing teams. And his recklessness is well known. We need an upgrade in this position. Why was he the last man? 'Last man' isn't anywhere in the rules, it is something you hear a lot but it isn't the rule, it is about whether the ref determines the foul to deny a clear goal scoring opportunity. Jota had controlled it past Xhaka and there was no covering defender between him and the GK |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:25 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: TOP GUN wrote: He’s the last man. Even if you think it’s a clumsy accident he’s got to go. Bet you’ll enjoy the rest of this game. Gives you you opportunity to moan about Xhaka and blame any defeat on him. I don’t blame every defeat on him but he’s a liability and it pains you every time I point this out doesn’t it |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:26 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Gunfire wrote: Why was he the last man? 'Last man' isn't anywhere in the rules, it is something you hear a lot but it isn't the rule, it is about whether the ref determines the foul to deny a clear goal scoring opportunity. Jota had controlled it past Xhaka and there was no covering defender between him and the GK He was going to score. Few refs wouldn’t have sent him off, when I saw it happen I thought RED immediately |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
The covid thing really sticks in the throat for me. Liverpool lied that they had a load of false positives when they only had 4 actual covid cases. The chances of 3 false positives is 1 in 8 billion - and Liverpool claim they had about 10 of them so couldn't play. Now we're the one with covid, afcon and injury crisis and we're playing. I don't mind teams being better than us, playing better etc but I don't like the sense that something hasn't been fair |
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| Author: | Hazuki [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
Some desperate defending needed now, this tie is not over yet. |
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| Author: | kiwipete [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:28 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: TOP GUN wrote: He’s the last man. Even if you think it’s a clumsy accident he’s got to go. Bet you’ll enjoy the rest of this game. Gives you you opportunity to moan about Xhaka and blame any defeat on him.  Well who would you blame if we get beaten ....?
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| Author: | Gunfire [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
Rich wrote: Gunfire wrote: Why was he the last man? 'Last man' isn't anywhere in the rules, it is something you hear a lot but it isn't the rule, it is about whether the ref determines the foul to deny a clear goal scoring opportunity. Jota had controlled it past Xhaka and there was no covering defender between him and the GK Oh no I get that. But the question is why was it him and not a CB covering? |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
Proper use of the advantage rule by Oliver there, good reffing. |
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| Author: | Hazuki [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:32 pm ] |
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Nothing wrong with our commitment today at least, we look prepared to fight for it |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:33 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Proper use of the advantage rule by Oliver there, good reffing. Agree with that. Actually he’s reffed very well (again). |
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| Author: | Gunfire [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:34 pm ] |
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Hazuki wrote: Nothing wrong with our commitment today at least, we look prepared to fight for it That sure is a positive. Ramsdale not a save to make. Good first half post red. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
0-0 HT. 10 men for half that half and whilst we've barely had any of the ball on a pure backs to the wall defensive effort that is good to restrict Liverpool to just 4 attempts and not a single effort on target |
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| Author: | Lincoln gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:34 pm ] |
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Hazuki wrote: Nothing wrong with our commitment today at least, we look prepared to fight for it Agreed. We've done very well since the red. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:37 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Rich wrote: Proper use of the advantage rule by Oliver there, good reffing. Agree with that. Actually he’s reffed very well (again). When I've seen him I do think he's consistently the best ref in the league. I don't mind Anthony Taylor either. Both may make a mistake but at least they give me some confidence they know what they're doing and can seem to block out more influences and emotion. |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
kiwipete wrote: Bernard wrote: Bet you’ll enjoy the rest of this game. Gives you you opportunity to moan about Xhaka and blame any defeat on him. Well who would you blame if we get beaten ....?I don’t look to blame players. I didn’t even moan about Tavares on Sunday. I don’t like this social media blame culture. I try to support players and the team. May not always achieve it. But I try. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
We need to register Arthur Melo by midday tomorrow I think in order for him to be available for the NLD. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:38 pm ] |
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A good practice pre NLD |
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| Author: | Lincoln gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:40 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: We need to register Arthur Melo by midday tomorrow I think in order for him to be available for the NLD. We could do a lot worse than putting Ben White into defensive midfield and bringing in Holding at the back. |
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| Author: | Lincoln gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:41 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: kiwipete wrote: Well who would you blame if we get beaten ....?I don’t look to blame players. I didn’t even moan about Tavares on Sunday. I don’t like this social media blame culture. I try to support players and the team. May not always achieve it. But I try. I agree with that Bernard. Personally I thought Xhaka was a bit unfortunate there. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:42 pm ] |
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Very interesting analysis by Jamie Carragher of the lead up to the red card. Most insightful and reasonable. |
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| Author: | Bernard [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
TOP GUN wrote: Bernard wrote: Bet you’ll enjoy the rest of this game. Gives you you opportunity to moan about Xhaka and blame any defeat on him. I don’t blame every defeat on him but he’s a liability and it pains you every time I point this out doesn’t it He’s one of our most important players. Not a liability. But go on. Enjoy your moaning. |
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| Author: | Hazuki [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:43 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Very interesting analysis by Jamie Carragher of the lead up to the red card. Most insightful and reasonable. Watching on Swedish TV, what did he say? |
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| Author: | dec [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:48 pm ] |
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bromley gooner wrote: Rich wrote: We need to register Arthur Melo by midday tomorrow I think in order for him to be available for the NLD. We could do a lot worse than putting Ben White into defensive midfield and bringing in Holding at the back. Chambers either. He played a lot there for Fulham and was reasonable. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:51 pm ] |
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Hazuki wrote: long time gooner wrote: Very interesting analysis by Jamie Carragher of the lead up to the red card. Most insightful and reasonable. Watching on Swedish TV, what did he say? He covered it from our attack with Saka and the subsequent press by us very high up in their half. It then started to go wrong when Tierney went past the man that he was supposed to neutralise. From there on we were exposed and short of numbers where it mattered. A few incisive passes later and Liverpool had carved through us. Xhaka totally hung out to dry by others. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
Azeez has been recalled from loan from Portsmouth - might he go straight in the team for the NLD!? It will probably be Ben White in CM |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:55 pm ] |
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Couple of nearly moments on the counter where a better pass or decision could have been dangerous. It is tough because we see hardly any of the ball and then when we get it you're asking the players to be perfect with it. |
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| Author: | kiwipete [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:55 pm ] |
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Bernard wrote: kiwipete wrote: Well who would you blame if we get beaten ....?I don’t look to blame players. I didn’t even moan about Tavares on Sunday. I don’t like this social media blame culture. I try to support players and the team. May not always achieve it. But I try. Hmmm ...that is all well and good , probably a laudable attribute , but when you have serial , serial , serial offender like Xhaka is damn hard to not groan look skyward  and scream "Oh My God here we go again .I'm guessing ... when your car breaks down , you book it in for repairs at the local garage . Next time out it does the very same thing . You say " Oh better luck next time I'm sure you'll get it right eventually " |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:56 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Azeez has been recalled from loan from Portsmouth - might he go straight in the team for the NLD!? It will probably be Ben White in CM Isn’t he being recalled because he’s not good enough to get a game for Portsmouth? |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:57 pm ] |
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dec wrote: bromley gooner wrote: We could do a lot worse than putting Ben White into defensive midfield and bringing in Holding at the back. Chambers either. He played a lot there for Fulham and was reasonable. He might be needed at RB if Tomiyasu isn't fit |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:57 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Rich wrote: Azeez has been recalled from loan from Portsmouth - might he go straight in the team for the NLD!? It will probably be Ben White in CM Isn’t he being recalled because he’s not good enough to get a game for Portsmouth? Probably - but he's the next best specialist central mid at the club who is available right now (I'm not advocating playing him) |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:58 pm ] |
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Perhaps we could ‘do a Liverpool’ and get the NLD postponed. Almost every other club has worked the situation to their advantage. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:58 pm ] |
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Maybe Arteta needs to find his boots..... |
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| Author: | kiwipete [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:59 pm ] |
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In a strange way this could help us ....they can't hit us on the break . Like trying to open a clam with a plastic fork . |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:00 pm ] |
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We’re doing bloody well all things considered. Saka looks on it. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:00 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: long time gooner wrote: Isn’t he being recalled because he’s not good enough to get a game for Portsmouth? Probably - but he's the next best specialist central mid at the club who is available right now (I'm not advocating playing him) I’m not advocating watching it  We’re back on a painful run. Although we’re giving it a good go in this second half. |
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| Author: | Gunfire [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:01 pm ] |
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Saka has been great, |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:02 pm ] |
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Gunfire wrote: Saka has been great, Wrong tense. Saka IS great. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
long time gooner wrote: Perhaps we could ‘do a Liverpool’ and get the NLD postponed. Almost every other club has worked the situation to their advantage. Well you seem to need 14 fit 'senior' players. We have 11 playing today, we've lost Cédric and Xhaka from that, so that makes 9. Leno, Holding, Tavares, Chambers, Mari, Kolasinac - thats just 15 senior players. Get Mari and Kolasinac out on their loans or find a couple of 'injuries' and 'false positives' and he presto the game should be off |
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| Author: | Hazuki [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
Gunfire wrote: Saka has been great, One of those players you have to actually watch to see how good he is - doesn't get as many goals and assists as he should, considering how good he is game after game. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:04 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: long time gooner wrote: Perhaps we could ‘do a Liverpool’ and get the NLD postponed. Almost every other club has worked the situation to their advantage. Well you seem to need 14 fit 'senior' players. We have 11 playing today, we've lost Cédric and Xhaka from that, so that makes 9. Leno, Holding, Tavares, Chambers, Mari, Kolasinac - thats just 15 senior players. Get Mari and Kolasinac out on their loans or find a couple of 'injuries' and 'false positives' and he presto the game should be off False positives and injuries were what I had in mind. We are as close to the edge as those clubs that have already gamed the system. |
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