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kiwipete wrote:

No need to re visit this one ..... I proved it last time out with the stats he was a major factor in us avoiding relegation .

Bertie Mee who was a hell of lot closer to the action than you were ....... said the same .

Now of course you don't like Bertie Mee either so that's going to lead to another little mini froth at the mouth .

Plucking names out the distant past to bolster your case Gus Caesar , Geoff Blockley , Ian Ure ..... who's up next Tommy Caton , Paul Mariner , Stepanovs , Les Compton

Pete on the Beach is right , Gaz got the Young connection awry but he is also in the main right .

You and Wenger could well be twins , obstinate , stubborn , love Germans , irrational , can't be told anything , won't listen to reason , repeat the same thing over and over ...... the similarities are endless

You proved nothing. A big fat zero. Bertie Mee was the manger who nearly got us relegated, and a big reason for that was him signing Mancini. So I couldn't give a toss if he tried to justify that signing by claiming otherwise.

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"Quite frankly, I'm amazed I still have to answer these kinds of questions".

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Me too...
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Wonder why the posts I've quoted today when writing a post myself haven't come out in yellow?

Bernard wrote:

To be fair Bernard you have proved a big fat zero neither, so on we go

grantyboy wrote:

Me too...
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no I'm sure.............

Get on with it - it's why you're paid more than Wenger!! :icon_mrgreen:

Who is in goal of the worst?. Lukic or Fabianksi

Sorry his exact words were:

"I still think John Lukic is one of the best keepers in the country; I just think David Seaman is the best".

I remember people on the North Bank singing "Don't go, Johnny" to Lukic prior to his sale to Leeds - he was held in huge affection by the fans and most were glad to see him come back as well.

A legend?

I'll leave that one to Bernard.

Daz wrote:

I think I would count Lukic as an Arsenal legend.

Bernard wrote:

I think I would count Lukic as an Arsenal legend.

Yeah me too. You won't agree maybe but I would put him slightly ahead of Lehman

grantyboy wrote:

Who is in goal of the worst?. Lukic or Fabianksi

Neither. Richard Wright or Almunia. However, at least Wenger dropped the former when he flopped. Installing Manuel as no.1 despite all the evidence that he wasn't up to it was a sign of Wenger's losing it.

Pete on the beach wrote:

To be fair Bernard you have proved a big fat zero neither, so on we go

But I never claimed to have proved Mancini was useless, that's the difference. It was an opinion I formulated from watching him live.

Daz wrote:

Yeah me too. You won't agree maybe but I would put him slightly ahead of Lehman

Ooh tough shout - Lukic just about for me as I don't recall him doing anything as daft as blatantly pushing an opposition player in full view of the world. Mind you, Lehmann wins on the warm ups - easy.

Daz wrote:

I think I would count Lukic as an Arsenal legend.

john1 wrote:

Lehmann had some dodgy patches which Lukic didn't really. Also Lukic was part of a more important period in our history including Anfield 89. So I would go Jennings, Seaman and Lukic as the three best keepers of the era I have witnessed. Rimmer obviously had his best years at Villa, Čech a magnificent keeper but best years at Chelsea. The rest are all a bit of a blur - Fabianski is actually a decent enough keeper - although I still like seeing Vito Mannone whenever he rocks up at Griffin Park with another championship side.

Still *%^@* me right off that Chezzers is doing the business for Juve.

Decaf wrote:

Yeah didn't include Wright cos he was always a stopgp. Almunia was pretty bad too. Feck me weve had some shite goalkeepers. :laughing7:

Fabianski is actually a decent enough keeper - although I still like seeing Vito Mannone whenever he rocks up at Griffin Park with another championship side.

Still *%^@* me right off that Chezzers is doing the business for Juve.

I'd forgotten about him. He was pretty weak alright. Almunia gets my vote though. Bloody awful keeper.

"Fingers" Furnell - anybody ?

dec wrote:

I'd forgotten about him. He was pretty weak alright. Almunia gets my vote though. Bloody awful keeper.

John Lukic really really wasn't a pretty weak keeper. Did you actually see him play? Not a sarcastic question, you might just be young.

Daz wrote:

John Lukic really really wasn't a pretty weak keeper. Did you actually see him play? Not a sarcastic question, you might just be young.

I was referring to George Wood. Lukic was very good.

And thanks for the compliment :icon_mrgreen1:

I thought Wright was bought to be our new no1?

Pete on the beach wrote:

Malcolm Webster

He was absolutely abysmal but hardly ever played. To get in my 'worst ever' team a player would have to have had a reasonable number of appearances.

Author:	Pete on the beach [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:07 pm ]
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Bernard wrote: kiwipete wrote: No need to re visit this one ..... I proved it last time out with the stats he was a major factor in us avoiding relegation . Bertie Mee who was a hell of lot closer to the action than you were ....... said the same . Now of course you don't like Bertie Mee either so that's going to lead to another little mini froth at the mouth . Plucking names out the distant past to bolster your case Gus Caesar , Geoff Blockley , Ian Ure ..... who's up next Tommy Caton , Paul Mariner , Stepanovs , Les Compton Pete on the Beach is right , Gaz got the Young connection awry but he is also in the main right . You and Wenger could well be twins , obstinate , stubborn , love Germans , irrational , can't be told anything , won't listen to reason , repeat the same thing over and over ...... the similarities are endless You proved nothing. A big fat zero. Bertie Mee was the manger who nearly got us relegated, and a big reason for that was him signing Mancini. So I couldn't give a toss if he tried to justify that signing by claiming otherwise. To be fair Bernard you have proved a big fat zero neither, so on we go

Author:	bubblechris [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:10 pm ]
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grantyboy wrote: warrior wrote: "Quite frankly, I'm amazed I still have to answer these kinds of questions". Me too... Instructions: Press 'quote' Type message Select 'submit' As Rog is too busy I'll step in. What you describe is ok when you want the whole message posted but I believe Bernard was cutting and pasting in which case if I am correct you: copy text click quote on message Type your message click quote above the message below subject heading paste what you copied Then same quote button again. In this way you can add a quote from another source. I think no I'm sure.............

Author:	Daz [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:11 pm ]
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Sorry his exact words were: "I still think John Lukic is one of the best keepers in the country; I just think David Seaman is the best". I remember people on the North Bank singing "Don't go, Johnny" to Lukic prior to his sale to Leeds - he was held in huge affection by the fans and most were glad to see him come back as well. A legend? I'll leave that one to Bernard.

Author:	Pete on the beach [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:15 pm ]
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Bernard wrote: Wonder why the posts I've quoted today when writing a post myself haven't come out in yellow? Terry Mancini now works with warrior as a forum editor ?

Author:	Bernard1 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:26 pm ]
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Pete on the beach wrote: Bernard wrote: You proved nothing. A big fat zero. Bertie Mee was the manger who nearly got us relegated, and a big reason for that was him signing Mancini. So I couldn't give a toss if he tried to justify that signing by claiming otherwise. To be fair Bernard you have proved a big fat zero neither, so on we go But I never claimed to have proved Mancini was useless, that's the difference. It was an opinion I formulated from watching him live.

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Author:	bubblechris [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:32 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote: grantyboy wrote: Me too... Instructions: Press 'quote' Type message Select 'submit' As Rog is too busy I'll step in. What you describe is ok when you want the whole message posted but I believe Bernard was cutting and pasting in which case if I am correct you: copy text click quote on message Type your message click quote above the message below subject heading paste what you copied Then same quote button again. In this way you can add a quote from another source. I think no I'm sure............. Just checked and found I'm wrong...................... Come on Rog cough up...............

Author:	warrior [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:33 pm ]
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john1 wrote: Get on with it - it's why you're paid more than Wenger!! Mate, I can assure - Keeping my job is my " last worry "

Author:	Bernard1 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:34 pm ]
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grantyboy wrote: Who is in goal of the worst?. Lukic or Fabianksi George Wood might still get my vote. I'll have to think about it.

Author:	Bernard1 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:03 pm ]
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Daz wrote: Sorry his exact words were: "I still think John Lukic is one of the best keepers in the country; I just think David Seaman is the best". I remember people on the North Bank singing "Don't go, Johnny" to Lukic prior to his sale to Leeds - he was held in huge affection by the fans and most were glad to see him come back as well. A legend? I'll leave that one to Bernard. I think I would count Lukic as an Arsenal legend.

Author:	Daz [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:09 pm ]
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Bernard wrote: Daz wrote: Sorry his exact words were: "I still think John Lukic is one of the best keepers in the country; I just think David Seaman is the best". I remember people on the North Bank singing "Don't go, Johnny" to Lukic prior to his sale to Leeds - he was held in huge affection by the fans and most were glad to see him come back as well. A legend? I'll leave that one to Bernard. I think I would count Lukic as an Arsenal legend. Yeah me too. You won't agree maybe but I would put him slightly ahead of Lehman but after Jennings and Seaman (of goalies I have seen).

Author:	john1 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:27 pm ]
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Daz wrote: Bernard wrote: I think I would count Lukic as an Arsenal legend. Yeah me too. You won't agree maybe but I would put him slightly ahead of Lehman Ooh tough shout - Lukic just about for me as I don't recall him doing anything as daft as blatantly pushing an opposition player in full view of the world. Mind you, Lehmann wins on the warm ups - easy.

Author:	Daz [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:03 pm ]
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john1 wrote: Daz wrote: Yeah me too. You won't agree maybe but I would put him slightly ahead of Lehman Ooh tough shout - Lukic just about for me as I don't recall him doing anything as daft as blatantly pushing an opposition player in full view of the world. Mind you, Lehmann wins on the warm ups - easy. Lehmann had some dodgy patches which Lukic didn't really. Also Lukic was part of a more important period in our history including Anfield 89. So I would go Jennings, Seaman and Lukic as the three best keepers of the era I have witnessed. Rimmer obviously had his best years at Villa, Čech a magnificent keeper but best years at Chelsea. The rest are all a bit of a blur - Fabianski is actually a decent enough keeper - although I still like seeing Vito Mannone whenever he rocks up at Griffin Park with another championship side. Still %^@ me right off that Chezzers is doing the business for Juve.

Author:	dec [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:04 pm ]
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Bernard wrote: Daz wrote: Sorry his exact words were: "I still think John Lukic is one of the best keepers in the country; I just think David Seaman is the best". I remember people on the North Bank singing "Don't go, Johnny" to Lukic prior to his sale to Leeds - he was held in huge affection by the fans and most were glad to see him come back as well. A legend? I'll leave that one to Bernard. I think I would count Lukic as an Arsenal legend. I'd forgotten about him. He was pretty weak alright. Almunia gets my vote though. Bloody awful keeper.

Author:	dec [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:08 pm ]
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Daz wrote: john1 wrote: Ooh tough shout - Lukic just about for me as I don't recall him doing anything as daft as blatantly pushing an opposition player in full view of the world. Mind you, Lehmann wins on the warm ups - easy. Lehmann had some dodgy patches which Lukic didn't really. Also Lukic was part of a more important period in our history including Anfield 89. So I would go Jennings, Seaman and Lukic as the three best keepers of the era I have witnessed. Rimmer obviously had his best years at Villa, Čech a magnificent keeper but best years at Chelsea. The rest are all a bit of a blur - Fabianski is actually a decent enough keeper - although I still like seeing Vito Mannone whenever he rocks up at Griffin Park with another championship side. Still %^@ me right off that Chezzers is doing the business for Juve. It was one of those dodgy spells from Lehmann that got Almunia a run in the team. Jens' top level was better than Lukic though. He was world class at his peak.

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:20 pm ]
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Stoke tickets gone to general sale. Can't give em away at the moment. Only way we could make them less attractive would be to stick Wengers face on every ticket, the loopy selfish bellend that he is

Author:	bubblechris [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:12 pm ]
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33Cech 24Bellerín 20Mustafi 6Koscielny 31Kolasinac 8Ramsey 29Xhaka 7Mkhitaryan 11Özil 23Welbeck 14Aubameyang Substitutes 13Ospina 16Holding 17Iwobi 21Chambers 30Maitland-Niles 35El Neny 62Nketiah Ref worryingly Andre Marriner.

Author:	Rich [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:18 pm ]
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Always too easy to play against. Teams with half our ability make things far harder for city. Barca and Bayern players have said they used to love drawing us because they would enjoy the game because they know we would let them play. Basically if you are a better team than us and you play near or close to tour potential you will win

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:10 pm ]
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Lukic was better than Lehman Kevin Campbell better than Welbeck

Author:	Decaf [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:11 pm ]
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grantyboy wrote: Decaf wrote: Neither. Richard Wright or Almunia. However, at least Wenger dropped the former when he flopped. Installing Manuel as no.1 despite all the evidence that he wasn't up to it was a sign of Wenger's losing it. Yeah didn't include Wright cos he was always a stopgp. Almunia was pretty bad too. Feck me weve had some shite goalkeepers. I thought Wright was bought to be our new no1? 'Stopgap' would be pretty good for a keeper actually 'Sieve' would be more apt for Fab or Almunia, sadly.

Author:	Roastbeef [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:13 pm ]
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"Fingers" Furnell - anybody ?

Author:	Decaf [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:15 pm ]
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Daz wrote: Fabianski is actually a decent enough keeper - although I still like seeing Vito Mannone whenever he rocks up at Griffin Park with another championship side. Still %^@ me right off that Chezzers is doing the business for Juve. It's possible that you are right about Fab. I can't remember any specifics ... just a blurry sense of him flapping horribly in the Champs league.

Author:	Daz [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:01 pm ]
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dec wrote: I'd forgotten about him. He was pretty weak alright. Almunia gets my vote though. Bloody awful keeper. John Lukic really really wasn't a pretty weak keeper. Did you actually see him play? Not a sarcastic question, you might just be young.

Author:	Daz [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:04 pm ]
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Roastbeef wrote: "Fingers" Furnell - anybody ? Long time no see hope you're well...

Author:	dec [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:04 pm ]
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Daz wrote: dec wrote: I'd forgotten about him. He was pretty weak alright. Almunia gets my vote though. Bloody awful keeper. John Lukic really really wasn't a pretty weak keeper. Did you actually see him play? Not a sarcastic question, you might just be young. I was referring to George Wood. Lukic was very good. And thanks for the compliment

Author:	Daz [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:07 pm ]
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dec wrote: Daz wrote: John Lukic really really wasn't a pretty weak keeper. Did you actually see him play? Not a sarcastic question, you might just be young. I was referring to George Wood. Lukic was very good. And thanks for the compliment I thought you might have been actually but if you look at the post you quoted it wasn't the Wood one. I think Furnell was a Burnley boy...we'd need Hoy to verify that but he's obviously at church PRAYING for a City victory tonight so he can come and taunt the less faithful... Annoyingly I'm being dragged to watch First Aid Kit which I don't want to do because weather and weather and weather.

Author:	dec [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:08 pm ]
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Ah. I see what I did. I quoted the wrong post. Bernard mentioned George Wood but I picked up a different post of his. I am on my phone and not wearing my specs (I'm not that young )

Author:	Daz [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:11 pm ]
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Decaf wrote: I thought Wright was bought to be our new no1? That was certainly the message at the time.

Author:	Bernard1 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:50 pm ]
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Pete on the beach wrote: Malcolm Webster He was absolutely abysmal but hardly ever played. To get in my 'worst ever' team a player would have to have had a reasonable number of appearances.

Author:	Decaf [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:18 pm ]
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Bernard wrote: Pete on the beach wrote: Malcolm Webster He was absolutely abysmal but hardly ever played. To get in my 'worst ever' team a player would have to have had a reasonable number of appearances. One could imagine a 'damage index', calculated as NxC, where N is number of games and C is intensity of crapness (inverse of usual player rating). Stepanovs was like an attack of acute menigitis or being bitten by a mamba (stratospheric C but mercifully low N) whereas Almunia became like something fouling the water. Really not great multiplied by 175 games

Author:	goonerguru [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:57 pm ]
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Jack Kelsey was the best keeper in my time supporting the Arsenal

Author:	Rich [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:04 pm ]
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4-3-3, Kolasinac in for Monreal, Čech in for Ospina, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck both start. No Wilshere

Author:	bubblechris [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:58 pm ]
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The stadium looks a tad empty..................

Author:	gooner7 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:02 pm ]
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And again we left the winger free. Too much space and time for them.

Author:	gooner7 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:16 pm ]
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Sane is doing for us, what Özil and Ramsey used to do. Özil hardly impacts games anymore. Ramsey tries, but no longer have it. Receding as a team. Wenger out!

Author:	Rich [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:16 pm ]
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0-2 so far behind. Can we just call it full time now?

Author:	bubblechris [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:19 pm ]
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I predict an empty stadium before the end of the game.............

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