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Howard Webb’s explanation for why Van Dijk didn’t give away a penalty for deliberately pulling back Guehi.

This is absolute nonsense. Is pulling someone back by the arm a foul, yes , the fact the ref thinks he’s not going to get the ball shouldn’t be relevant. If a team is on the counter attack and a defender deliberately trips or pulls back the striker before the ball is even attempted to be passed to them it’s a free kick and certain yellow card. Why can you be allowed to foul someone in the box and be told it’s just a small foul so it’s ok.

17 points after 7 games last season and this season

Last season’s fixtures:
Forest (H), Palace (A), Fulham (H), United (H), Everton (A), Spurs (H), Bournemouth (A).

This season’s fixtures:
Wolves (H), Villa (A), Brighton (H), Spurs (A), City (A), Leicester (H), Southampton (H)

You'd have to say this season's fixtures have been tougher.

And it is striking that our only lost points have been when we've lost leads after having a man sent off for an absurd second yellow.
We haven't been sparkling, but the resilience and sheer will to win are remarkable.

GBNews tonight:
Headline
Political Revolution in Ireland.
Story
Growing concerns in country over immigration, housing and crime.

Well that didn't take long did it? Are our Irish boyos still denying there are problems in Ireland?

Labour would never let it happen over here.................

kiwipete wrote:

SUDDENLY out of the cosmos Southampton score and our previous measured build ups go out the window , alarms go off ; sirens sounding ...we are all urgency

Us grabbing a couple of late goals in both matches has glossed over these shortcomings .

One of the features of the early Wenger teams was the speed at which they started the game. We were 2 up before the oppostion knew what hit them.

International breaks are shite aren't they.

There's another one in November I believe.

Talk about a stop start to the season plus lengthy travelling and the danger of season defining injuries.

By Christmas we will have had 6 weeks out of the season for international breaks.

socrates wrote:

We have to have them. We might as well have them now as opposed to at the end of the season.

Gunfire wrote:

We have to have them. We might as well have them now as opposed to at the end of the season.

Yes, and as far as England is concerned international football has been around since 1872, so nothing new there!

old man of hoy wrote:

Yes, and as far as England is concerned international football has been around since 1872, so nothing new there!

Yes, I believe the arduous fixture list for the England national team in the 1870s - one match a year, always against Scotland - raised the ire of the players union at the time.

bubblechris wrote:

Political revolution? What revolution would that be? Has there been a coup?

Rich wrote:

Attachment:

IMG_1741.jpeg

I read that much slower and it does make Webbs explanation more impactful.

Oh good Saka hobbles off for England. Down 1-0 to Greece too. Palmer missing sitters.

dec wrote:

Political revolution? What revolution would that be? Has there been a coup?

Hey hey hey don't shoot the messenger.

Ash wrote:

Oh good Saka hobbles off for England. Down 1-0 to Greece too. Palmer missing sitters.

Carsley has flunked his audition here. I mean playing saka, Foden, palmer and Gordon at once because you can’t make a decision. Classic England manager stuff, he’s perfect for the job

TOP GUN wrote:

Carsley has flunked his audition here. I mean playing saka, Foden, palmer and Gordon at once because you can’t make a decision. Classic England manager stuff, he’s perfect for the job

Absolutely I’d veto him for the job on that team selection alone. 3 players who all want to play as a No.10 so you just pick them all. Pathetic and cowardly. He managed to pick a balanced team in the first two games because Foden and Bellingham were injured. Get a manager who is going to play players in their best positions rather than just pick England’s 11 most talented players. Ok Kane was injured but you have Watkins and Solanke in the squad, play them! At the moment I think there is only room for one of Foden, Palmer and Bellingham in the team. Maybe 2 if Bellingham plays deeper and more disciplined. It’s an utter shambles

bubblechris wrote:

Hey hey hey don't shoot the messenger.

Well you posted this b%*&s%*^.

dec wrote:

Well you posted this b%*&s%*^.

I'd bet your sitting in your comfortable mansion and haven't spoken to those complaining.

Grow up and check this out before you start screaming at me.

Time to consider what this idiot actually brings to the table.

Nothing utterly nothing. Baiting, provocation and hate

bubblechris wrote:

Hey hey hey don't shoot the messenger.

Well you posted this b%*&s%*^.

TOP GUN wrote:

Time to consider what this idiot actually brings to the table.

Nothing utterly nothing. Baiting, provocation and hate

Very well written.

You do realise that as a royal we conversation you are talking about yourself?

Ban him for life, nothing but a troublemaker :42laughter:

dec wrote:

Well you posted this b%*&s%*^.

There is no need to put a brave face on it, Dec. Console yourself that you can apply for asylum in South Africa. The trip over on the wooden raft won't be exactly fun, and you'll be in a detention centre sharing a bed with 20 Somalians for a few years, but anything is better than facing the rampant mobs of revolutionary immigrant Marxist-Islamists currently taking over and destroying Europe.

.
Little light relief needed here

... a week or so back our glorious New Zealand Navy [ remember the Archilles / Battle of the River Plate blah blah ]

our oceanographic vessel HMNZS Manawanui is doing survey work near Samoa ....... it hits a reef , capsizes and sinks .

Silly me I thought mapping the sea bed you used sonar not Braille but anyway it turns out originally before its conversion it was a Norwegian oil rig tender .

My advice is for a replacement we buy a Russian ice breaker .

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwylvw9qqd5o

https://x.com/upfrontpod/status/1844324495500116042?s=46&t=fkwaCrtFB5yR-j6VVZXEoA

Sometimes you just have no words

The Saka injury: I am concerned that it is the England doctors who assess him and not ask our doctors for an opinion.

Decaf wrote:

Where's St Patrick when you need him?

Author:	gooner7 [ Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:21 am ]
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Rich wrote: Howard Webb’s explanation for why Van Dijk didn’t give away a penalty for deliberately pulling back Guehi. This is absolute nonsense. Is pulling someone back by the arm a foul, yes , the fact the ref thinks he’s not going to get the ball shouldn’t be relevant. If a team is on the counter attack and a defender deliberately trips or pulls back the striker before the ball is even attempted to be passed to them it’s a free kick and certain yellow card. Why can you be allowed to foul someone in the box and be told it’s just a small foul so it’s ok. I've stopped getting my emotions run high because of this bunch of bias (and idiotic) referees. Angry at that moment and seething to strangle them. But let it slide after that because nothing could be done about it.

Author:	Decaf [ Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:28 am ]
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Rich wrote: 17 points after 7 games last season and this season Last season’s fixtures: Forest (H), Palace (A), Fulham (H), United (H), Everton (A), Spurs (H), Bournemouth (A). This season’s fixtures: Wolves (H), Villa (A), Brighton (H), Spurs (A), City (A), Leicester (H), Southampton (H) You'd have to say this season's fixtures have been tougher. And it is striking that our only lost points have been when we've lost leads after having a man sent off for an absurd second yellow. We haven't been sparkling, but the resilience and sheer will to win are remarkable.

Author:	old man of hoy [ Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:28 pm ]
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Decaf wrote: And it is striking that our only lost points have been when we've lost leads after having a man sent off for an absurd second yellow. We haven't been sparkling, but the resilience and sheer will to win are remarkable. Yes, we have a proper team now.

Author:	bubblechris [ Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:34 pm ]
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GBNews tonight: Headline Political Revolution in Ireland. Story Growing concerns in country over immigration, housing and crime. Well that didn't take long did it? Are our Irish boyos still denying there are problems in Ireland? Labour would never let it happen over here.................

Author:	Ash [ Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:37 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote: GBNews tonight: Let me stop you there

Steve Gleibers Arsenal Forum https://stevegleiber.com/forum/

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Author:	dec [ Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:25 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote: GBNews tonight: Headline Political Revolution in Ireland. Story Growing concerns in country over immigration, housing and crime. Well that didn't take long did it? Are our Irish boyos still denying there are problems in Ireland? Labour would never let it happen over here................. Political revolution? What revolution would that be? Has there been a coup?

Author:	warrior [ Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:15 pm ]
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Rich wrote: Howard Webb’s explanation for why Van Dijk didn’t give away a penalty for deliberately pulling back Guehi. This is absolute nonsense. Is pulling someone back by the arm a foul, yes , the fact the ref thinks he’s not going to get the ball shouldn’t be relevant. If a team is on the counter attack and a defender deliberately trips or pulls back the striker before the ball is even attempted to be passed to them it’s a free kick and certain yellow card. Why can you be allowed to foul someone in the box and be told it’s just a small foul so it’s ok. Attachment: IMG_1741.jpeg [ 574.89 KB \| Viewed 754 times ] I read that much slower and it does make Webbs explanation more impactful.

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Wed Oct 09, 2024 11:36 pm ]
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There are some stories appearing that as a result of the decision in the Man City legal case, interest free loans may have to be assessed against a club. In other words you would have a normal commercial rate of interest put against your balance sheet as to profitability each year. If this happens then our club could be in some difficulty into the future as I understand we have a large amount of those loans.

Author:	warrior [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:09 am ]
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Arsenal and Liverpool to escape liability for huge interest on owners’ loans after City’s legal case Ruling declared it unlawful for borrowings from shareholders to be excluded from PSR calculations but this will only apply to future deals https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... egal-case/

Author:	kiwipete [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:57 am ]
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Gunfire wrote: kiwipete wrote: SUDDENLY out of the cosmos Southampton score and our previous measured build ups go out the window , alarms go off ; sirens sounding ...we are all urgency Us grabbing a couple of late goals in both matches has glossed over these shortcomings . One of the features of the early Wenger teams was the speed at which they started the game. We were 2 up before the oppostion knew what hit them. Of course Gunfire .... in those early Wenger years it helped that we probably had the greatest collection of talent that Arsenal Football Club is ever likely to see . I was watching some old game the other day , the sort of relaxed nonchalance of Pires Henry Bergkamp & Co seemed like they were almost taking the piss . At the time I thought they were good ; but never really appreciated how good .

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:51 am ]
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bubblechris wrote: GBNews tonight: Headline Political Revolution in Ireland. Story Growing concerns in country over immigration, housing and crime. Well that didn't take long did it? Are our Irish boyos still denying there are problems in Ireland? Labour would never let it happen over here................. This geezer honestly as thick as mince. You seem intent on trying to wind up the Irish lads. As a regular in Dublin I can assure you Irish humour largely extends to laughing at this type of stupidity rather than getting provoked by it. That said the geezer who sits next to me at Emirates flys over from Dublin for games probably would bash you regardless after laughing at you. At this point all you have is attempted wind ups as nobody values anything you say and they aren’t working much either.

Author:	socrates [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:09 am ]
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International breaks are shite aren't they. There's another one in November I believe. Talk about a stop start to the season plus lengthy travelling and the danger of season defining injuries. By Christmas we will have had 6 weeks out of the season for international breaks.

Author:	Gunfire [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:12 am ]
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socrates wrote: International breaks are shite aren't they. There's another one in November I believe. Talk about a stop start to the season plus lengthy travelling and the danger of season defining injuries. By Christmas we will have had 6 weeks out of the season for international breaks. We have to have them. We might as well have them now as opposed to at the end of the season.

Author:	old man of hoy [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:19 am ]
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Gunfire wrote: socrates wrote: International breaks are shite aren't they. There's another one in November I believe. Talk about a stop start to the season plus lengthy travelling and the danger of season defining injuries. By Christmas we will have had 6 weeks out of the season for international breaks. We have to have them. We might as well have them now as opposed to at the end of the season. Yes, and as far as England is concerned international football has been around since 1872, so nothing new there! Talking of international sport, looks like England are struggling in Pakistan...

Author:	Rich [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:03 am ]
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I’m slightly resigned that at some point Saliba may push to join a proper European giant, I’m certainly more resigned to that than the thought of Saka doing the same. So whilst it’s too early to consider it we must ensure a few things, we keep his contract in a state where we hold the cards, make sure this is a world record fee for a defender £100m!….and that we stave off any desire he may have to leave for as long as possible by winning major trophies asap

Author:	mcquilkie [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:42 am ]
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old man of hoy wrote: Gunfire wrote: We have to have them. We might as well have them now as opposed to at the end of the season. Yes, and as far as England is concerned international football has been around since 1872, so nothing new there! Yes, I believe the arduous fixture list for the England national team in the 1870s - one match a year, always against Scotland - raised the ire of the players union at the time.

Author:	old man of hoy [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:31 pm ]
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mcquilkie wrote: old man of hoy wrote: Yes, and as far as England is concerned international football has been around since 1872, so nothing new there! Yes, I believe the arduous fixture list for the England national team in the 1870s - one match a year, always against Scotland - raised the ire of the players union at the time. Yes, but never forget the huge effort (and understandable fear) of travelling to the wild lands of Glasgow in those days. Much more pleasant for the Jocks to come to London for a game at the Kennington Oval - the gasometer was probably the best architecture they had ever experienced.

Author:	bubblechris [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:33 pm ]
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dec wrote: bubblechris wrote: GBNews tonight: Headline Political Revolution in Ireland. Story Growing concerns in country over immigration, housing and crime. Well that didn't take long did it? Are our Irish boyos still denying there are problems in Ireland? Labour would never let it happen over here................. Political revolution? What revolution would that be? Has there been a coup? Hey hey hey don't shoot the messenger.

Author:	Ash [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:57 pm ]
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Oh good Saka hobbles off for England. Down 1-0 to Greece too. Palmer missing sitters.

Author:	Decaf [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:26 pm ]
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warrior wrote: Rich wrote: Howard Webb’s explanation for why Van Dijk didn’t give away a penalty for deliberately pulling back Guehi. This is absolute nonsense. Is pulling someone back by the arm a foul, yes , the fact the ref thinks he’s not going to get the ball shouldn’t be relevant. If a team is on the counter attack and a defender deliberately trips or pulls back the striker before the ball is even attempted to be passed to them it’s a free kick and certain yellow card. Why can you be allowed to foul someone in the box and be told it’s just a small foul so it’s ok. Attachment: IMG_1741.jpeg I read that much slower and it does make Webbs explanation more impactful. Totally absurd

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:37 pm ]
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Ash wrote: Oh good Saka hobbles off for England. Down 1-0 to Greece too. Palmer missing sitters. Carsley has flunked his audition here. I mean playing saka, Foden, palmer and Gordon at once because you can’t make a decision. Classic England manager stuff, he’s perfect for the job

Author:	dec [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:55 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote: dec wrote: Political revolution? What revolution would that be? Has there been a coup? Hey hey hey don't shoot the messenger. Well you posted this b%&s%^.

Author:	Rich [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:58 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote: Ash wrote: Oh good Saka hobbles off for England. Down 1-0 to Greece too. Palmer missing sitters. Carsley has flunked his audition here. I mean playing saka, Foden, palmer and Gordon at once because you can’t make a decision. Classic England manager stuff, he’s perfect for the job Absolutely I’d veto him for the job on that team selection alone. 3 players who all want to play as a No.10 so you just pick them all. Pathetic and cowardly. He managed to pick a balanced team in the first two games because Foden and Bellingham were injured. Get a manager who is going to play players in their best positions rather than just pick England’s 11 most talented players. Ok Kane was injured but you have Watkins and Solanke in the squad, play them! At the moment I think there is only room for one of Foden, Palmer and Bellingham in the team. Maybe 2 if Bellingham plays deeper and more disciplined. It’s an utter shambles

Author:	TOP GUN [ Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:06 pm ]
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Rich wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Carsley has flunked his audition here. I mean playing saka, Foden, palmer and Gordon at once because you can’t make a decision. Classic England manager stuff, he’s perfect for the job Absolutely I’d veto him for the job on that team selection alone. 3 players who all want to play as a No.10 so you just pick them all. Pathetic and cowardly. He managed to pick a balanced team in the first two games because Foden and Bellingham were injured. Get a manager who is going to play players in their best positions rather than just pick England’s 11 most talented players. Ok Kane was injured but you have Watkins and Solanke in the squad, play them! At the moment I think there is only room for one of Foden, Palmer and Bellingham in the team. Maybe 2 if Bellingham plays deeper and more disciplined. It’s an utter shambles Not playing Watkins! Just madness. I also see that Declan Rice is now getting pelters with people saying he can’t play as a 6 because of his distribution. Absolutely absurd if I was Rice I’d join the Ben White club on this because he’s about to be made a scapegoat because the England managers can’t balance their teams. They will bottle it and still give him the job I reckon but shouldn’t.

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:56 am ]
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The Saka injury: I am concerned that it is the England doctors who assess him and not ask our doctors for an opinion.

Author:	bubblechris [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:16 am ]
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dec wrote: bubblechris wrote: Hey hey hey don't shoot the messenger. Well you posted this b%&s%^. I'd bet your sitting in your comfortable mansion and haven't spoken to those complaining. Grow up and check this out before you start screaming at me.

Author:	socrates [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:03 am ]
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What did I say about international football........its shite and just causes issues to clubs with injuries and fatigue.

Author:	dec [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:26 am ]
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bubblechris wrote: dec wrote: Well you posted this b%&s%^. I'd bet your sitting in your comfortable mansion and haven't spoken to those complaining. Grow up and check this out before you start screaming at me. You are telling me to grow up when you are the one who posted that there is a political revolution taking place in Ireland. I am well aware of the financial and social issues in this country. I have been living here for over 50 years. Every Irish person knows there is a significant housing issue (as there is in many many first world countries). In Ireland's case, it has its origins in the economic crash and subsequent recession the country suffered from 2008 to c2013. The construction industry collapsed and the banks were taken into government ownership. This led to several years of virtually no new residential developments being built. In terms of construction and residential lending it was more or less a lost decade. There are now record numbers of houses being built but there is a long way to catch up and the country still has one of the youngest populations in western Europe (one of the few with a median age below 40). The Irish property market is further compromised by our historical model of the vast majority of people owning their own homes. Our rental market is nothing like as secure as mainland Europe and that is something that will take many years and a cultural shift to reform. Still, it's probably better to burn down properties earmarked to house refugees because that solves everything. Finally, I did not "scream" at you but called out the notion that there is a revolution taking place in Ireland as b%&s%^. You were the one who told me to grow up and referred to "Irish boyos."

Author:	Rich [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:21 am ]
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https://x.com/upfrontpod/status/1844324 ... -j6VVZXEoA Sometimes you just have no words

Author:	TOP GUN [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:25 am ]
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Time to consider what this idiot actually brings to the table. Nothing utterly nothing. Baiting, provocation and hate

Author:	bubblechris [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:37 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote: Time to consider what this idiot actually brings to the table. Nothing utterly nothing. Baiting, provocation and hate Very well written. You do realise that as a royal we conversation you are talking about yourself? Ban him for life, nothing but a troublemaker

Author:	Decaf [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:58 pm ]
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dec wrote: bubblechris wrote: Hey hey hey don't shoot the messenger. Well you posted this b%&s%^. There is no need to put a brave face on it, Dec. Console yourself that you can apply for asylum in South Africa. The trip over on the wooden raft won't be exactly fun, and you'll be in a detention centre sharing a bed with 20 Somalians for a few years, but anything is better than facing the rampant mobs of revolutionary immigrant Marxist-Islamists currently taking over and destroying Europe.

Author:	Decaf [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:04 pm ]
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bubblechris wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Time to consider what this idiot actually brings to the table. Nothing utterly nothing. Baiting, provocation and hate Very well written. You do realise that as a royal we conversation you are talking about yourself? Ban him for life, nothing but a troublemaker Actually, TG posts a lot of sense on football. So do you when you steer clear of politics and trying to tell people stuff that they can see with their own eyes is wildly distorted. Lessons?

Author:	dec [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:43 pm ]
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Decaf wrote: dec wrote: Well you posted this b%&s%^. There is no need to put a brave face on it, Dec. Console yourself that you can apply for asylum in South Africa. The trip over on the wooden raft won't be exactly fun, and you'll be in a detention centre sharing a bed with 20 Somalians for a few years, but anything is better than facing the rampant mobs of revolutionary immigrant Marxist-Islamists currently taking over and destroying Europe. Where's St Patrick when you need him?

Author:	kiwipete [ Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:49 pm ]
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. Little light relief needed here ... a week or so back our glorious New Zealand Navy [ remember the Archilles / Battle of the River Plate blah blah ] our oceanographic vessel HMNZS Manawanui is doing survey work near Samoa ....... it hits a reef , capsizes and sinks . Silly me I thought mapping the sea bed you used sonar not Braille but anyway it turns out originally before its conversion it was a Norwegian oil rig tender . My advice is for a replacement we buy a Russian ice breaker . https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwylvw9qqd5o