Might not be a popular opinion but I say yes. But then again, I wasn't around back then.
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:29 am ] |
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If both us and City win all our games we'll naturally look at the two games v Villa and Fulham as where we lost the title, and West Ham at home. but in truth everyone that comes close can do this. If we manage to pip City they'll look at their 2-2 draw at home to Palace when they were 2-0 up with 15 to go. Only managing to scrape an 80th minute equaliser v Chelsea at home, losing away to Wolves, an unforgiveable 3-3 draw v Spurs at home when they battered them and had the lead twice and conceded in the 90th minute. A crazy 4-4 away to Chelsea where they led 3 times and also conceded an equaliser in the last minute. Every team has these annoying results. If we finish on 89 points and City finish on 91 having won their last 9 straight and going unbeaten in 23 in the league including 19 wins there sometimes you just have to say there is not much more we could have done |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:44 am ] |
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Truth is we have the best team in the league right now but City have the best squad. It’s a season of 40 games. At some point you will need to rely on the group. It’s fixable but irritating |
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| Author: | mcquilkie [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:22 am ] |
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Rich wrote: and Liverpool fan Jared Gillet on VAR who has a history of awful decisions against us. Going back to 2019, Sokratis' potential late winner against Palace was inexplicably ruled out by Gillett on VAR. Oddly enough, even when he was officiating in Australia's A-League, Gillett wasn't that highly rated. Let's face it, he was no Roger Kirkpatrick. |
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| Author: | warrior [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:29 am ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Truth is we have the best team in the league right now but City have the best squad. You have to a$k how they did it though. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:26 am ] |
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Against all hope I expect City to win the rest of their games. I don't think we will. Even if City draws a game, we'd have to win all of ours and win on goal differential. I don't see that happening frankly. This week is the toughest of the run because its 3 games in 7 days. The latter 2 being the 2 biggest London derbies. After the NLD its a game every weekend. Way more time to rest and strategize. With all that being said, if we win all the games save a draw and included in those wins Tottenham and Man Utd then I'll be happy even if there is no title. I'll be disappointed but will finish the season having done some amazing things. |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:20 pm ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: Truth is we have the best team in the league right now but City have the best squad. It’s a season of 40 games. At some point you will need to rely on the group. It’s fixable but irritating Once could point to little mistakes and flaws in Arteta's management (or Klopp's for that matter). But ultimately this is the case of the country with the most ammunition winning the war 99% of the time. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:51 pm ] | ||
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Might not be a popular opinion but I say yes. But then again, I wasn't around back then.
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:01 pm ] |
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Probably back page dribble but there is a current rumor, which was lightly talked about before about us being interested in Rashford if other options fail. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:04 pm ] |
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I don't like his lack of work ethic at times. There were games he wasn't tracking back. Wasn't pressing. I don't want to use the term 'lazy' because I've seen him press like against us. I just think he's not motivated due to internal factors. He was one of the players even Mourinho said should be sold. Talented but will he put in a shift week in, week out? |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:13 pm ] |
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warrior wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Truth is we have the best team in the league right now but City have the best squad. You have to a$k how they did it though.  Hard work, perseverance, and proud history of success, including a massive 2 titles in their glorious first 130 years, that wasn't bought with dodgy oil money at all. They paced themselves, but from the early days it was obvious they would one day dominate world football. Trebles, invincible seasons, etc. are one thing, but winning the title, then managing to get relegated the following season, despite scoring more goals than any other team, is surely a feat that will never be repeated. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:37 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: Probably back page dribble but there is a current rumor, which was lightly talked about before about us being interested in Rashford if other options fail. No thanks. He’s on over £300k, has no workrate and no defensive nous and can’t press. He has pace but can look clumsy on a dribble and tends to just hit his shots as hard as he can and is quite selfish when it comes to shooting in the final 3rd. He’s a player who has relied on his athleticism and pace and doesn’t have enough technical ability and football intelligence for me. If he was on a free and willing to take sub £100k a week I’m still not sure I’d want him as I don’t like his attitude in a sinking Man U ship - you can learn a lot about players in adversity. Look how Rice lead an average West Ham side from the front, captain and best player. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:38 pm ] | ||
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There has been a lot of praise for Ange’s high defensive line but it’s actually Arsenal who play the highest defensive line in all of Europe’s big 5 leagues.
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| Author: | Zed [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:50 pm ] |
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Another MLS goal keeper's apparently at Arsenal for a trial. I don't know. After Matt Turner who moved on, it's a US Colorado Rapids keeper at 17 years old named Adam Beaudry. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:49 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: AmericanGooner wrote: Probably back page dribble but there is a current rumor, which was lightly talked about before about us being interested in Rashford if other options fail. No thanks. He’s on over £300k, has no workrate and no defensive nous and can’t press. He has pace but can look clumsy on a dribble and tends to just hit his shots as hard as he can and is quite selfish when it comes to shooting in the final 3rd. He’s a player who has relied on his athleticism and pace and doesn’t have enough technical ability and football intelligence for me. If he was on a free and willing to take sub £100k a week I’m still not sure I’d want him as I don’t like his attitude in a sinking Man U ship - you can learn a lot about players in adversity. Look how Rice lead an average West Ham side from the front, captain and best player. We can do much better. I seriously hope its just idle rumors and has no legs. I'd actually take Martial over him, any time. But both players are on the wrong side of 25. I prefer young, gifted strikers. |
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| Author: | grantyboy [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:22 am ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: grantyboy wrote: Not sure about the thinking on the tackling of Partey mark 1 TG. In the Xhaka days before Rice arrived he was easily our most influential disruptive player in midfield. He may well have been but he’s never been our disruptive shield if we are honest. Everyone expected a vieira which he isn’t. His value has always been on the ball. I know the time you’re thinking of when his absence led to a significant drop in our creativity and tempo. He was at the same time out most disruptive midfielder not just with directly tackling but tactically and interceptions as well. Xhaka could only do what he did further up the pitch when Partey was behind him so I think you’re underestimating Partey’s defensive capability. Where I think you are right is that he does add a bit more zip to the tempo going forward and also doesn’t need to bear as much defensive work due to the evolution of the rest of the squad A royal shame he’s had such persistent injury problems because with him sitting next to Rice that’s a hell of a CM pairing. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:45 am ] |
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I think the NLD can possibly be summed up as a 'must win' game for The Arsenal and a 'must not lose' game for Tottenham. Tottenham will celebrate a draw because it means we are possibly out of the title chase. They want 4th and want to win for their fans but if they play well and get a draw the fans will take it. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:40 am ] |
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Remember when we held Spur's future in our hands? |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:42 am ] |
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Maybe this result tomorrow. |
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| Author: | socrates [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:56 am ] |
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If the truth be told we have done remarkably well just to still be in the title discussion against the juggernaut that is Man City. They have a formidable squad and are basically a machine in which most of the parts are fully interchangeable with little or no loss of quality and that allows them to rest players. Even then we've seen how difficult it is to compete on all fronts and some of their players have complained of tiredness. That makes it all the remarkable how we have remained competitive with minimal rotation because some of our back-ups are not quite at the level required. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:20 am ] |
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The only time City and Pep have lost this league is when Liverpool had to win 26 of their first 27 games. The standard is crazy, and it’s even crazier to consider finishing 2nd to them as a failure. The consequence of those 115 charges will define English football for years whichever way the outcome falls |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:23 am ] |
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Lots of rumours that we want Bruno Guimaraes from Newcastle, fee £80-100m. Proven on the prem, excellent player but at that price I’m less sure, he seems to play best in the 8 role so may be too similar to Rice(not that that is necessarily a bad thing) but for our midfield the two profiles I’d want to see is the Partey replacement- and that is all about elite passing and quick progressive ball movement, and I’d still like to see an attacking left 8 who can cause problems on a dribble - I like Eze at Palace for this position, pace and power and skill full on the dribble |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:41 am ] |
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Rich wrote: AmericanGooner wrote: Probably back page dribble but there is a current rumor, which was lightly talked about before about us being interested in Rashford if other options fail. No thanks. He’s on over £300k, has no workrate and no defensive nous and can’t press. He has pace but can look clumsy on a dribble and tends to just hit his shots as hard as he can and is quite selfish when it comes to shooting in the final 3rd. He’s a player who has relied on his athleticism and pace and doesn’t have enough technical ability and football intelligence for me. If he was on a free and willing to take sub £100k a week I’m still not sure I’d want him as I don’t like his attitude in a sinking Man U ship - you can learn a lot about players in adversity. Look how Rice lead an average West Ham side from the front, captain and best player. How much does Gunnasaurus get paid? He is more useful than this bloke. |
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| Author: | dec [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:44 am ] |
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Rich wrote: The only time City and Pep have lost this league is when Liverpool had to win 26 of their first 27 games. The standard is crazy, and it’s even crazier to consider finishing 2nd to them as a failure. The consequence of those 115 charges will define English football for years whichever way the outcome falls Liverpool didn't have to win 26 of the first 27 to win that league. They finished 18 points clear. City lost 9 times that season. We have become a very good side and with some good recruitment this summer (a proper striker) we can win the league next season. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:51 am ] |
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One to watch this. His agent is Kia Joorbachin same agent as Edu who was central to Martin Ødegaard joining https://www.teamtalk.com/news/edu-strik ... en-striker |
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| Author: | Ash [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:00 am ] |
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TOP GUN wrote: One to watch this. His agent is Kia Joorbachin same agent as Edu who was central to Martin Ødegaard joining https://www.teamtalk.com/news/edu-strik ... en-striker I’m off to look at YouTube to see him kick a football for literally the first time, but I’m utterly convinced he’s the most perfect signing in our history and I’ll be devastated and bereft if it doesn’t happen. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:24 am ] |
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dec wrote: Rich wrote: The only time City and Pep have lost this league is when Liverpool had to win 26 of their first 27 games. The standard is crazy, and it’s even crazier to consider finishing 2nd to them as a failure. The consequence of those 115 charges will define English football for years whichever way the outcome falls Liverpool didn't have to win 26 of the first 27 to win that league. They finished 18 points clear. City lost 9 times that season. We have become a very good side and with some good recruitment this summer (a proper striker) we can win the league next season. Didn’t HAVE to no, but it was a ridiculous season that they finally broke Pep. 99 points and they were on the beach for the final 8 games. We beat them at the end |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:25 am ] |
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Obi Martin with a 17 minute hat trick for the U18’s, I think he can still play at that level for 2 more years. He’s breaking a lot of age group goal scoring records |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:47 am ] |
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I have to take some offense to the 'Arsenal bottled it' last season and this season. City has won the title 5 of the last 6 years. So, we are expected to come in and win it first time? Or even second time, competing with their money and wages. Either people are simply unrealistic and/or they are finding any excuse to criticize us. Liverpool had 97 points and 1 loss (lowest in the league) and still lost the title. Another season had 92 points, 2 losses (lowest in the league) and still lost. When you score 90 points plus and can't win the league, when in pretty much any other season it was enough, its unrealistic to expect us to win it. Too early to talk about it but next season I think we'll be very, very hard to beat. I think it will be our season. I will say again, Timber in the team will take us to a new level. Him along with any striker and center mid but we buy no one else, we'll be stronger with him. Have a great feeling about him. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:58 am ] |
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Rich wrote: Obi Martin with a 17 minute hat trick for the U18’s, I think he can still play at that level for 2 more years. He’s breaking a lot of age group goal scoring records He’s got 5 goals in the first half. 26 goals in 15 games for the U18’s this season, leading scorer in the U18 league, the 3 lads behind him in the scoring charts are 18, Obi is still 16. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:13 pm ] |
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Pundit said Liverpool have struck the post 26 times this season. Nunez an incredible 9 times. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6WSsJKFhvhY |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:21 pm ] |
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Had West Ham pressed a bit when they had the advantage in a counter they might have been able to conjure up a couple more shots on goal after scoring. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:26 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: Rich wrote: Obi Martin with a 17 minute hat trick for the U18’s, I think he can still play at that level for 2 more years. He’s breaking a lot of age group goal scoring records He’s got 5 goals in the first half. 26 goals in 15 games for the U18’s this season, leading scorer in the U18 league, the 3 lads behind him in the scoring charts are 18, Obi is still 16. He might be better than me at that age...might, mind you.  |
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| Author: | Decaf [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:18 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: Pundit said Liverpool have struck the post 26 times this season. Nunez an incredible 9 times. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6WSsJKFhvhY Liverpool have just brought him on so maybe he can reach double figures now? |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:24 pm ] |
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West Ham look inept going forward but still manage to draw level. The manager who comes in for Liverpool better hit the ground running or it may be one of those seasons for them like last season. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:26 pm ] |
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Yes, Pool dropped 2 more points 
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| Author: | dec [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:46 pm ] |
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gooner7 wrote: Yes, Pool dropped 2 more points One win in their last five league games. Klopp's tenure is fizzling out. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:47 pm ] |
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AmericanGooner wrote: Rich wrote: He’s got 5 goals in the first half. 26 goals in 15 games for the U18’s this season, leading scorer in the U18 league, the 3 lads behind him in the scoring charts are 18, Obi is still 16. He might be better than me at that age...might, mind you. He ended up with 7 goals in a 9-0 victory. 28 goals in 16 games is the official today for the U18’s. New Srsenal all time record at that level, beating Flo Balogun |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:58 pm ] |
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On form and what I see we should win at OT. How Burnley got back into the game for a draw I don't know. Man Utd seem to raise their game for us. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:40 pm ] |
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Stuttgart who sit 3rd in the Bundesliga, are up 1-0 at the beginning of the second half. They look good. Well organized. I am not so sure Leverkusen will get out of this one. Xhaka isn't playing as he picked up a 5th yellow last week. Hoping Leverkusen can pull it out, but its going to be tough. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:51 pm ] |
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Now down 2-0. Just looked up their manager, Sebastian Hoeneß. 'Only' 41. Has a great future ahead of him from what I can see. |
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