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TOP GUN wrote:

Decent results for us today I suppose, spurs, wolves and Chelsea dropping points.

An even better day for City with them winning while Liverpool and Chelsea drop points.

Sorry to hear you’ve got Covid TG. I’ve been isolating for 6 days after testing positive last Monday. Both me and my girlfriend have it. Felt shite for 48 hours but nothing too bad, thankfully triple vaxxed. Unfortunately my nephew has tested positive today which means my planned Christmas Day at my sisters is now off. This week alone, I know of 9 people who’ve tested positive. Not known a wave like this one. It’s utterly rampant.

Bernard wrote:

An even better day for City with them winning while Liverpool and Chelsea drop points.

Spurs not losing to Liverpool is not a decent result for us. What is the point of Liverpool if they don't hammer Spurs? :laughing7:

Harry Kane interviewed after and said ‘I thought it was just a strong tackle and I won the ball”

Rich wrote:

Harry Kane interviewed after and said ‘I thought it was just a strong tackle and I won the ball”

Delusional wanker

Gaz from Oz wrote:

Delusional wanker

I find him one of the most unlikeable footballers out there. I’m sure a big part is my in built bias to hate anyone who is good and plays for spurs, but I also hate players who are snide, arrogant and believe they are above the rules due to their status.
Let’s not forget his whole ‘I swear on my daughters life’ when claiming he got a non existent touch on a free kick so he could claim the goal rather than his team mate.

Last night felt like a point for spurs that we probably won’t get in the same fixture. However, they were very fortunate with the Kane red. If the ref does his job Liverpool win that easily I’d say. And Kane is suspended for the next 3

Rich wrote:

On MOTD2 last night even Alan Shearer admitted that England captains are given preferential treatment by referees and match officials. I can’t recall the precise words he used to say it. But Shearer most definitely did say it.

I know Bernard disagrees but I don't see how 60,000 people in a football stadium, in a fairly confined area, can be helpful at this moment in time. People are inevitably coming into contact with infected people inside and outside the stadium, breathing the same air, travelling in cars, on tubes, on buses etc. It must be a good bet for some serious spreading at these type of crowded events.

Not sure what the answer is, these mutations are a nightmare. They say that the natural evolution of these types of virus is to get milder over time but what if it doesn't, what if a new variant emerges which is not only highly contagious but highly virulent as well.

socrates wrote:

You are 100 per cent correct soc

In the open air of the ground less risks but you are mandated to wear masks inside the ground unless you are eating or drinking and some don’t anyway. There’s a lot of people packed in small areas unmasked so no way are you not exposing yourself. If you need to queue for the toilet ? People crammed in again many unmasked and a third of Londoners aren’t vaccinated. The ridiculous events that occurred at Wembley in the Italy final are now being suggested that it was a superspreader event because 2000 likely unvaccinated people bunked in. Ultimately it’s a personal choice but if you don’t think it’s drastically increasing your personal exposure you are kidding yourself.

I think behind closed doors games are coming soon

socrates wrote:

It's not impossible but highly unlikely. Milder variants have a better chance of surviving, since more people who get infected will survive and thus be viable options for re-infection. A variant that causes more severe illness will lead to more deaths, and thus by definition have fewer hosts to infect. The timeframe of all of this is anybody's guess though, but the chance of any new variant decreases with vaccination so we've already lessened the risk somewhat.

Hoping to see Balogun if possible vs. Sunderland. As well as some others. We'll see.

Just wanted to wish all the guys who have tested positive for Covid a full and speedy recovery. My wife tested positive just over a year ago, very mild symptoms that lasted three days, she’s still battling with distorted taste and fatigue. The ongoing symptoms are obviously more acceptable than suffering the fate of the 150k poor souls that didn’t make it, but, it’s a right royal pia that impacts quality of life for who knows how long.

Neither of us have anytime for Covid deniers, anti vaxxers, mindless idiots that won’t mask up……. and most of all the gammon “leading” the country.

UEFA have declared that Spurs forfeit the match they called off v Rennes in the Europa Conference League. Id have much rather Spurs stay in that as now they've probably taken 10 or so games out of their calendar. I doubt any Spurs fan will be that bothered that they are out of Europe's 3rd tier competition

Rich wrote:

Harry Kane interviewed after and said ‘I thought it was just a strong tackle and I won the ball”

Delusional wanker

Rich wrote:

I'd imagine Conte is breathing a sigh of relief.

No replays in the 3rd and 4th rounds of the Cup - that'll piss off the smaller clubs.

One leg only for the League Cup semi - think we'd be happy with that.

Author:	AmericanGooner [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:02 am ]
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If Man Utd win both their games in hand, they'll be a point above us. We are in a very good position and obviously need to take all points of teams outside our top 4 challengers. The one thing that needs repeating to give some context to our goals is that we are a very young side. They are doing very well. I'm reminded of 'Dumbledore's Army' in the Harry Potter series. The have a level of maturity at the moment, that exceeds their years.

Author:	Decaf [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:24 am ]
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Bernard wrote: TOP GUN wrote: Decent results for us today I suppose, spurs, wolves and Chelsea dropping points. An even better day for City with them winning while Liverpool and Chelsea drop points. Spurs not losing to Liverpool is not a decent result for us. What is the point of Liverpool if they don't hammer Spurs?

Author:	Decaf [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:39 am ]
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Darren wrote: Sorry to hear you’ve got Covid TG. I’ve been isolating for 6 days after testing positive last Monday. Both me and my girlfriend have it. Felt shite for 48 hours but nothing too bad, thankfully triple vaxxed. Unfortunately my nephew has tested positive today which means my planned Christmas Day at my sisters is now off. This week alone, I know of 9 people who’ve tested positive. Not known a wave like this one. It’s utterly rampant. Scary stuff. All the best!

Author:	Bernard [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:12 am ]
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Darren wrote: Sorry to hear you’ve got Covid TG. I’ve been isolating for 6 days after testing positive last Monday. Both me and my girlfriend have it. Felt shite for 48 hours but nothing too bad, thankfully triple vaxxed. Unfortunately my nephew has tested positive today which means my planned Christmas Day at my sisters is now off. This week alone, I know of 9 people who’ve tested positive. Not known a wave like this one. It’s utterly rampant. Best of luck Darren. Hope you’re back to full health asap.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:23 am ]
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Decaf wrote: Bernard wrote: An even better day for City with them winning while Liverpool and Chelsea drop points. Spurs not losing to Liverpool is not a decent result for us. What is the point of Liverpool if they don't hammer Spurs? Yes, it’s hard to admit but spurs seem to give the very best teams a better game than we do. Spurs at home v City have had remarkable success over the last 4-5 seasons. Last night felt like a point for spurs that we probably won’t get in the same fixture. However, they were very fortunate with the Kane red. If the ref does his job Liverpool win that easily I’d say. And Kane is suspended for the next 3

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Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:25 am ]
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Wishing good health to TG and Darren. Thankfully it appears that the infection is mild even though the spread is rapid.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:29 am ]
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Huge drop off in performance from Liverpool missing 3-4 key players. Matip and Konate both look excellent alongside Van Dijk but as a pair without him they looked all at sea. Then in midfield Keita, Milner and the youngster Hudson were miles off it compared to Fabinho, Thiago and Henderson. When Liverpool lost their CB last year they moved Fabinho and Henderson back there and they lost control of games in the middle of the park. I think Liverpool have the best 11 in the league when everyone is fit but City have 6-7 replacements who are at the same level as the first 11. That’s what will probably win them the league again this season

Author:	Gaz from Oz [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:38 am ]
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Rich wrote: Harry Kane interviewed after and said ‘I thought it was just a strong tackle and I won the ball” Delusional wanker

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:09 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Rich wrote: Harry Kane interviewed after and said ‘I thought it was just a strong tackle and I won the ball” Delusional wanker I find him one of the most unlikeable footballers out there. I’m sure a big part is my in built bias to hate anyone who is good and plays for spurs, but I also hate players who are snide, arrogant and believe they are above the rules due to their status. Let’s not forget his whole ‘I swear on my daughters life’ when claiming he got a non existent touch on a free kick so he could claim the goal rather than his team mate.

Author:	Bernard [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:29 am ]
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Rich wrote: Gaz from Oz wrote: Delusional wanker I find him one of the most unlikeable footballers out there. I’m sure a big part is my in built bias to hate anyone who is good and plays for spurs, but I also hate players who are snide, arrogant and believe they are above the rules due to their status. Let’s not forget his whole ‘I swear on my daughters life’ when claiming he got a non existent touch on a free kick so he could claim the goal rather than his team mate. On MOTD2 last night even Alan Shearer admitted that England captains are given preferential treatment by referees and match officials. I can’t recall the precise words he used to say it. But Shearer most definitely did say it.

Author:	Hazuki [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:32 am ]
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Rich wrote: Last night felt like a point for spurs that we probably won’t get in the same fixture. However, they were very fortunate with the Kane red. If the ref does his job Liverpool win that easily I’d say. And Kane is suspended for the next 3 It should also be noted that Liverpool started the game without their leader at the back, and their entire starting midfield missing. At home under the same circumstances, with Liverpool starting a teenage rookie and a 54-year old Milner in midfield, I bet we'd give them a better fight than we have done in recent years.

Author:	socrates [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:06 am ]
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Darren wrote: Sorry to hear you’ve got Covid TG. I’ve been isolating for 6 days after testing positive last Monday. Both me and my girlfriend have it. Felt shite for 48 hours but nothing too bad, thankfully triple vaxxed. Unfortunately my nephew has tested positive today which means my planned Christmas Day at my sisters is now off. This week alone, I know of 9 people who’ve tested positive. Not known a wave like this one. It’s utterly rampant. Hi Darren, Sorry to hear you've been struck down again. If I recall you got it (or what you assumed was it as there was no testing back then) at the start of the pandemic. Feels like its gone full circle. I hope that you and your girlfriend make a swift recovery. How does it compare with the first time around?

Author:	socrates [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:19 am ]
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Feels like another lockdown is just around the corner. This variant may be more mild (although no definiteive proof of that yet) but it seems to be so contagious and the sheer weight of numbers becoming infected means lots of the elderly and those with underlying health conditions could still end up in hospital. Not sure what the answer is, these mutations are a nightmare. They say that the natural evolution of these types of virus is to get milder over time but what if it doesn't, what if a new variant emerges which is not only highly contagious but highly virulent as well. I know Bernard disagrees but I don't see how 60,000 people in a football stadium, in a fairly confined area, can be helpful at this moment in time. People are inevitably coming into contact with infected people inside and outside the stadium, breathing the same air, travelling in cars, on tubes, on buses etc. It must be a good bet for some serious spreading at these type of crowded events.

Author:	DHD [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:26 am ]
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Darren wrote: Sorry to hear you’ve got Covid TG. I’ve been isolating for 6 days after testing positive last Monday. Both me and my girlfriend have it. Felt shite for 48 hours but nothing too bad, thankfully triple vaxxed. Unfortunately my nephew has tested positive today which means my planned Christmas Day at my sisters is now off. This week alone, I know of 9 people who’ve tested positive. Not known a wave like this one. It’s utterly rampant. That's really bad luck, Darren - triple jabbed and getting it for the second time. There's a message there. Hope it goes well for you.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:43 pm ]
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Torreira scored and assisted for Fiorentina at the weekend to keep up his impressive form. Guendouzi got a hat trick of assists in Marseille's game. Whatever we think, its probably clear those two are not part of our future. I think Torreira has an option to buy at about £12m and Guendouzi an obligation at £12m. Add in Mavropanos at a ridiculous obligation of £3m, and if we can persuade Betis (or another) to buy Bellerin, and it would seem like Nelson doesn't have a future at Arsenal. We should be looking at getting somewhere near £45m for those 5 and there would be no detriment to the way the team is performing this season. Judging by our last transfer window we could make £45m go a long way.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:59 am ]
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Since we lost 2-0 to Chelsea we've taken the same number of points as them in the league.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:01 am ]
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Bernard wrote: Rich wrote: I find him one of the most unlikeable footballers out there. I’m sure a big part is my in built bias to hate anyone who is good and plays for spurs, but I also hate players who are snide, arrogant and believe they are above the rules due to their status. Let’s not forget his whole ‘I swear on my daughters life’ when claiming he got a non existent touch on a free kick so he could claim the goal rather than his team mate. On MOTD2 last night even Alan Shearer admitted that England captains are given preferential treatment by referees and match officials. I can’t recall the precise words he used to say it. But Shearer most definitely did say it. He'd know better than most after getting away with kicking Neil Lennon in the head

Author:	TOP GUN [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:06 am ]
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socrates wrote: I know Bernard disagrees but I don't see how 60,000 people in a football stadium, in a fairly confined area, can be helpful at this moment in time. People are inevitably coming into contact with infected people inside and outside the stadium, breathing the same air, travelling in cars, on tubes, on buses etc. It must be a good bet for some serious spreading at these type of crowded events. You are 100 per cent correct soc In the open air of the ground less risks but you are mandated to wear masks inside the ground unless you are eating or drinking and some don’t anyway. There’s a lot of people packed in small areas unmasked so no way are you not exposing yourself. If you need to queue for the toilet ? People crammed in again many unmasked and a third of Londoners aren’t vaccinated. The ridiculous events that occurred at Wembley in the Italy final are now being suggested that it was a superspreader event because 2000 likely unvaccinated people bunked in. Ultimately it’s a personal choice but if you don’t think it’s drastically increasing your personal exposure you are kidding yourself. I think behind closed doors games are coming soon

Author:	Hazuki [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:15 am ]
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socrates wrote: Not sure what the answer is, these mutations are a nightmare. They say that the natural evolution of these types of virus is to get milder over time but what if it doesn't, what if a new variant emerges which is not only highly contagious but highly virulent as well. It's not impossible but highly unlikely. Milder variants have a better chance of surviving, since more people who get infected will survive and thus be viable options for re-infection. A variant that causes more severe illness will lead to more deaths, and thus by definition have fewer hosts to infect. The timeframe of all of this is anybody's guess though, but the chance of any new variant decreases with vaccination so we've already lessened the risk somewhat.

Author:	socrates [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:15 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote: socrates wrote: I know Bernard disagrees but I don't see how 60,000 people in a football stadium, in a fairly confined area, can be helpful at this moment in time. People are inevitably coming into contact with infected people inside and outside the stadium, breathing the same air, travelling in cars, on tubes, on buses etc. It must be a good bet for some serious spreading at these type of crowded events. You are 100 per cent correct soc In the open air of the ground less risks but you are mandated to wear masks inside the ground unless you are eating or drinking and some don’t anyway. There’s a lot of people packed in small areas unmasked so no way are you not exposing yourself. If you need to queue for the toilet ? People crammed in again many unmasked and a third of Londoners aren’t vaccinated. The ridiculous events that occurred at Wembley in the Italy final are now being suggested that it was a superspreader event because 2000 likely unvaccinated people bunked in. Ultimately it’s a personal choice but if you don’t think it’s drastically increasing your personal exposure you are kidding yourself. I think behind closed doors games are coming soon Hi TG, Seems like a no-brainer really. Anyway, glad you're feeling a little better. Hopefully, you've just got a very mild case. I mean nobody knows if they've even got the Delta or Omicron variants.

Author:	socrates [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:24 am ]
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Hazuki wrote: socrates wrote: Not sure what the answer is, these mutations are a nightmare. They say that the natural evolution of these types of virus is to get milder over time but what if it doesn't, what if a new variant emerges which is not only highly contagious but highly virulent as well. It's not impossible but highly unlikely. Milder variants have a better chance of surviving, since more people who get infected will survive and thus be viable options for re-infection. A variant that causes more severe illness will lead to more deaths, and thus by definition have fewer hosts to infect. The timeframe of all of this is anybody's guess though, but the chance of any new variant decreases with vaccination so we've already lessened the risk somewhat. Hi Haz, Fingers crossed. The trouble is we seem to be learning as we go along, past events are not necessarily predictive of future ones with this virus. Most people probably thought the advent of vaccines would see the end of Covid 19 as a massive global threat, instead we are seeing more contagious variants able to partially or even fully evade current vaccines so its a neverending battle to try to control the virus whilst tweaking vaccines, developing new ones or improving treatment protocols. I didn't envisage a 2nd Christmas with lock-downs across europe after the success of vaccines, but here we are.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:27 am ]
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UEFA have declared that Spurs forfeit the match they called off v Rennes in the Europa Conference League. Id have much rather Spurs stay in that as now they've probably taken 10 or so games out of their calendar. I doubt any Spurs fan will be that bothered that they are out of Europe's 3rd tier competition

Author:	AmericanGooner [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:37 am ]
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A couple questions. First, what position(s) should we buy in January? Does it matter if Aubameyang is sold or not? Second, some 'ifs' but if Saliba is as good as some of us think he is and if he is brought back, would he be a 3rd option or should we got to 3 at the back? And if the latter, how should we line up? Who sits?

Author:	Parkerknoll Gooner [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:02 am ]
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Just wanted to wish all the guys who have tested positive for Covid a full and speedy recovery. My wife tested positive just over a year ago, very mild symptoms that lasted three days, she’s still battling with distorted taste and fatigue. The ongoing symptoms are obviously more acceptable than suffering the fate of the 150k poor souls that didn’t make it, but, it’s a right royal pia that impacts quality of life for who knows how long. Neither of us have anytime for Covid deniers, anti vaxxers, mindless idiots that won’t mask up……. and most of all the gammon “leading” the country.

Author:	AmericanGooner [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:10 am ]
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Yeah, surviving isn't the only worry. Its the varying effects of contracting it. There are sometimes after effcs of the vaccine. I had joint issues after the 2nd Pfizer dose, but its preferable to not taking the vaccine. I have a variety of friends with varying, lingering symptoms as you noted after contracting it.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:23 am ]
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It does feel like the league has lost some fairness and integrity over the last few weeks. There appears to be no clear rule on when a game can be postponed, certain teams are 'made' to play and others can call games off very close to kick off. Then those, like Spurs, have effectively had a mini winter break and they play teams who have been playing 3 games a week for 3 weeks. I know everyone starts the season and finishes the season on the same day so the rest is evened out but it isn't quite as simple as that, particularly in the quick turnaround of games when even half a day extra rest can have a big difference.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:26 am ]
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AmericanGooner wrote: Hoping to see Balogun if possible vs. Sunderland. As well as some others. We'll see. A front 4 of Pépé, Emile Smith Rowe, Nketiah with Balogun up top would be good

Author:	gooner7 [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:05 pm ]
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Darren wrote: Sorry to hear you’ve got Covid TG. I’ve been isolating for 6 days after testing positive last Monday. Both me and my girlfriend have it. Felt shite for 48 hours but nothing too bad, thankfully triple vaxxed. Unfortunately my nephew has tested positive today which means my planned Christmas Day at my sisters is now off. This week alone, I know of 9 people who’ve tested positive. Not known a wave like this one. It’s utterly rampant. Speedy recovery Darren

Author:	TOP GUN [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:12 pm ]
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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote: Just wanted to wish all the guys who have tested positive for Covid a full and speedy recovery. My wife tested positive just over a year ago, very mild symptoms that lasted three days, she’s still battling with distorted taste and fatigue. The ongoing symptoms are obviously more acceptable than suffering the fate of the 150k poor souls that didn’t make it, but, it’s a right royal pia that impacts quality of life for who knows how long. Neither of us have anytime for Covid deniers, anti vaxxers, mindless idiots that won’t mask up……. and most of all the gammon “leading” the country. Well said. What the ERG lot is doing to the country is pretty much treason in my opinion. Holding a rebellion againest peoples health. %^@** hell any political party that sees Boris johnson as too far to the left is dangerous. Best of luck to the mrs too PK

Author:	Gunfire [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:57 pm ]
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Rich wrote: UEFA have declared that Spurs forfeit the match they called off v Rennes in the Europa Conference League. Id have much rather Spurs stay in that as now they've probably taken 10 or so games out of their calendar. I doubt any Spurs fan will be that bothered that they are out of Europe's 3rd tier competition I'd imagine Conte is breathing a sigh of relief.

Author:	Zed [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:01 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote: Rich wrote: Harry Kane interviewed after and said ‘I thought it was just a strong tackle and I won the ball” Delusional wanker Won't be so easy in the WC next year. A similar incident like that against a rampaging opponent won't go unchecked. No WC ref would let Kane off so easily just cause he's an England captain with an MBE.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:07 pm ]
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Garth Crooks puts Saka in his BBC team of the week: Arsenal fans will know what I think of this talent. He's the best thing I've seen since I saw Arsenal's David Rocastle burst onto the scene at Highbury. Saka was brilliant against West Ham and even better against Leeds and the difference between the two teams in both matches. He is the most consistent Arsenal player at the club and has been for the last season and a half - and the reason Arsenal find themselves flying high. I can't understand how such an ordinary team keeps getting these results. It's unbearable. Not such an impartial, objective analysis from a BBC employee!

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:08 pm ]
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Gunfire wrote: Rich wrote: UEFA have declared that Spurs forfeit the match they called off v Rennes in the Europa Conference League. Id have much rather Spurs stay in that as now they've probably taken 10 or so games out of their calendar. I doubt any Spurs fan will be that bothered that they are out of Europe's 3rd tier competition I'd imagine Conte is breathing a sigh of relief. A huge one. It is a massive boost for them, especially with 3 prem games to catch up on, which they now have a lot more free midweeks to have these games.

Author:	DHD [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:46 pm ]
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No replays in the 3rd and 4th rounds of the Cup - that'll piss off the smaller clubs. One leg only for the League Cup semi - think we'd be happy with that.

Author:	Rich [ Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:58 pm ]
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DHD wrote: No replays in the 3rd and 4th rounds of the Cup - that'll piss off the smaller clubs. One leg only for the League Cup semi - think we'd be happy with that. It is the right decision due to the pile up of fixtures. No replays in the cup favours smaller teams in terms of knocking a big team out but not for the money.