These days yes I do think the penalty would have been overturned had it been an Arsenal defender. Don’t forget, what’s considered acceptable or not has now been modified. I think the penalty should still have been given whoever was playing. But I don’t think an Arsenal defender would be sent off this season for that foul.

We must remember things have changed recently. I think Burnley’s penalty would have been given previously. Yesterday it wasn’t.

Sorry, I meant the sending off would have been overturned had it been an Arsenal player, not the penalty as I put in the first sentence. The penalty shouldn’t have been. The sending off should.

Some light has most definitely gone from the football world. Loved him as a player and as a commentator. You can safely use the word great about him.

I'm glad you clarified that. It looked like a foul, or at least a borderline case.

Does the VAR check allow the ref to differentiate? i.e. overrule the sending off but still award the penalty?

Probably my favourite non-Arse player.

Like this photo. Burnley player trying to rush Tierney up, or remonstrate with him from going down with cramp, assuming he was just time wasting and Ramsdale straight in there to stop him and Gabriel looking ready for a fight as well.

Little things but this is the attitude we need.

Some light has most definitely gone from the football world. Loved him as a player and as a commentator. You can safely use the word great about him.

...Greaves was mentioned a lot and I wish I had seen him play. I've only seen him in videos.

I would have thought so. If it doesn’t, it should do.

I thought it was a foul but not a red. I think it needs to be a very clear 'no attempt to play the ball' for it to be a red.

Hi AG - you had to be a careful watcher with Jimmy because he was one of those players who could be out of the action for a good while but then, bang! - goal!! He wasn't a fancy player, a dribbler or all over the place, just a deadly finisher. This goal against United is rightly famous, but in not typical.
https://www.facebook.com/TottenhamHotsp ... 1550153505

Amazingly West Ham bring Mark Noble off the bench to take the penalty with his first touch of the ball.....it is an awful penalty and De Gea saves.

terrible decision by Moyes to bring a cold player on like that in the 94th minute to save a point.

Apparently Noble had scored 38 penalties out of 39 for West Ham before today, so now it’s 38 out of 40. Shouldn’t a player be able to take a penalty cold? I would have thought so. I can understand why Moyes did it, even though it didn’t work today. Noble’s a brilliant penalty taker and his record surely shows that.

I understand he’s the best penalty taker at the club but it’s almost a no win situation to bring him on.
If a player on the pitch takes it and misses I doubt anyone says Moyes should have bought on Noble. I doubt Noble has ever had to take a penalty in those circumstances before.

I bet they would have said he should have brought Noble on. I just don’t see why someone has to have played a material part of the game to take a penalty. It’s one kick. Use your best penalty taker.

I agree with Rich on this one Bernard. With hindsight obviously. Noble hadn't even been warming up to come on, surely one of the players already on the pitch would have been a better idea.

If you get a penalty in the first 3 minutes your bound to miss then right as the taker has barely been involved.

Or it’s just another nonsense story narrative bollocks

It's a talking point TG. Nobody is right and nobody is wrong. Relax.

So spurs get beaten 3-0 at home to Chelsea. A 2 goal victory against them next week will take us above them I think. How things can change so quickly.

It’s also one of the reasons I like to look at the underlying stats in games. Spurs were very very lucky to win their first 3 games 1-0. Very much outplayed by City and Wolves at least. These things catch up with teams, you can’t continually play poorly and rely on scoring your limited chances and your opponent missing all the time

Apparently the five Arsenal players who scored the most penalties for us are:

1) Thierry Henry with 22 scored
2) Ian Wright with 18 scored
3) Alan Ball with 15 scored
4) Liam Brady with 14 scored
5) Lee Dixon with 11 scored

The full historical list, assuming it’s correct, is in the link.

https://www.worldfootball.net/alltime_g ... enal-fc/1/

Chelsea look superb and Tuchel is an excellent coach. I can't see them losing many, if any, games this season. Got me thinking. The top four look more concrete than ever before. Before there were always two definites and any two from three for the remaining spot. Now, Chelsea, City, Utd and Liverpool look way ahead of the rest. Could be a very long time before we see CL football back at the Emirates. our only chance is a sharp upturn in our consistency and one of the those sides to have an awful season. I think we're looking at EL football for years to come.

I think we're looking at EL football for years to come.

If we are to rely on Smith Rowe he has to develop more of a killer instinct. He has missed opportunities yesterday and againest Norwich that would have finished those matches. Decent player and a good prospect but can’t help feeling it might be a little too much responsibility too soon rather than being phased in

Gold star if anyone can remember the game that Eboue scored a penalty for us? I can’t

Great player. Fantastic finisher. I think he was the best natural finisher I’ve ever seen. He made it look so easy.

Great player. Fantastic finisher. I think he was the best natural finisher I’ve ever seen. He made it look so easy.
I actually played against him much later in his career. I was playing for Eton Manor against Barnet. Shattered some illusions. He was really miserable… didn’t stop moaning. He was still the second best player on the pitch though!!

Well put Darren. Arsenal have a long uphill haul.