The following season wasn’t bad either.

Roy Hodgson could make a return back to Palace as manager.

One interesting aspect of var is a disallowed goal by at can swing a game. You can be the team on top, get the goal, have it ruled out by a fine margin and you get the roar from the home crowd who suddenly wake up and the tide can turn

This is a theme I’ve discussed here recently.

The truth is these people aren’t real fans. Last season I couldn’t believe some of the things I read online after leaving the ground when we had actually won games.

After every defeat or bad result the manager should be sacked and it’s so boring. The truth is the only barometer of satisfaction are the fans in the ground and i assure you as somebody who has attended every league game bar one 99% of the match going fans are 100% behind this team and manager. The atmosphere is amazing right now and you still have idiots writing nonsense online. The truth is if you aren’t attending the games you have less commitment and compassion to the cause and progression of this young team.

What’s going to be really irritating is if in the event we don’t win the league you will have some idiots demanding Artetas dismissal. I promise you this will happen and Ash and I were discussing this the other day.

Thankfully not here !

RIP Lance Reddick
Cédric Daniels in The Wire
Great acting in a great role
Still miles in front as my favorite TV Series
Travel well Cédric.

Greatest show of all time and he was superb

https://youtu.be/NuY10FpBX6s

I mostly agree with the sentiment. But I’m not sure about the suggestion that you are a more committed fan than me because, for a variety of reasons, I can no longer get to games.

Spurs fans just went through an emotional roller coaster.
First the jubilation to see us going out of the Europa.
Then to feel the disappointment of a late Newcastle win, and in extra time at that.

As you know Baltimore, only a bit over an hour or south of Philly, physically looks like Philly. Terraced housing, similar neighborhood dynamics.

Great show, first time I saw it I thought it was north or west Philly from the looks of it. West Baltimore and parts of west Philadelphia have some eerily similarities for all the wrong reasons.

His back story was interesting in the show.

Dropping a team for the slightest of reasons I'd agree with for the most part.

However, the ol 'if you go to more games you are a bigger fan line'. With Arsenal having the most expensive tickets, I'll forgive a postal worker gooner from White Chapel or Tower Hamlets if he can't see most of the matches.

I've seen gooners get up 4am every weekend to the British pub in LA to see matches, leave work to sneak off mid week to see CL matches. There were no taped games back then. Youtube was in its infancy. You either caught the game on satellite or you didn't.

There are hard core Golden State Warriors fans in the poor, crime ridden Oakland who can't come up with 200 quid for the nosebleeds. I've never been offended by the 'you aren't a real gooner' talk myself. The majority of us have been on there roughly 25 years give or take. Tens of thousands of posts. It takes someone very narrow to tell a person that he's not a gooner if he's not been to many games.

One former poster said I wasn't and that I was on here for...can't recall...doesn't matter. Laughable. I took no offense. I'd have to respect the opinion and/or the person for that to happen.

When you see spurs fans or spurs pundits in the media it is like their entire season rests on us not winning the league. Imagine your happiness being controlled by something completely out of your control

Probably the first and still the greatest series amongst the hundreds and hundreds of series I've now seen online.

RIP Cédric......

Sorry but that's complete bollocks and you know it. Attending games does not make you any more or any less of a fan. To say otherwise is just arrogant and patronising.

There are many reasons that lots of dyed in the wool Arsenal fans are unable to attend games, not the least of which being the sheer expense of going to PL matches when you factor in the ticket costs, beverages, travel etc.

Those able to attend games at the Emirates are privileged but that does not dictate how much of an Arsenal fan they are. Many of the fans you are lauding now are the very same ones booing under Wenger and Emery and even in the early days of Arteta.

The mood of football fans is generally dictated by the level of success and Arsenal fans are no different, in or outside of the stadium.

I was just thinking the very early Europa exit will mean less income from that stream . It’s not that lucrative in any case but I expect it will likely cost us over 10million. Given the club had made losses for years now, can we start running into FFP problems?

Sorry it’s true. You have the mood inside the ground and something entirely different in the Ecosphere out of it. Wenger was only sacked when he lost the home crowd.

You have many reasons why fans can’t attend matches including finances and geography. I have friends on the other side of the world who are die hard Arsenal fans but the truth is the understanding, empathy and forgiveness built from spending a fortune travelling home and away watching a young group of men develop together doesn’t really exist as much if you aren’t doing that hence you read some disproportionate absurd things that don’t correlate to the feeling at Arsenal every week. There are exceptions, lifelong gooners who moved away etc but don’t tell me idiots who say they “can’t take it anymore” after losing a midweek game when we are top of the *%^@*** league are real fans.

Exhibit A

This bellend in Spain

https://youtu.be/tWUFx5Ko65s

100%.

Except that even success does not cure people of being twats. Look at City, United, and Chelsea fans. Is Top Gun getting less obnoxious?

The decisive factor is the way the internet allows people to be complete twats without any consequences, not whether they can or cannot attend. Sure, if someone at a football match makes an arse of themselves, someone like Steve would probably nut them.

BUT I'll bet a lot of fans who attend are complete twats and ignoramous when they go online ... probably not quite as high a proportion as in the general population, but likely not that different. The law of large numbers dictates that in any crowd of10s of thousands of people, a fair number will be twats.

Watch videos of those fans in places like Nigerian and Thailand celebrating. The atmosphere in those pubs may not quite have matched the real thing, but I bet it was pretty good.

No-one on the forum thinks that anyone who says they “can’t take it anymore” after losing a midweek game when we're top of the league is a real fan, so I'm not sure who you think you're arguing with here. But back to the actual topic and are, say, Socrates and LTG among the blessed minority in your 'exceptions' category? Might they, very humbly of course, consider themselves to be as committed an Arsenal fan as yourself?

I’m not arguing with anyone and I didn’t say anyone on the forum said that at all, read my comments again and apologise please. I was having a conversation with LTG who said he observed people online saying “They can’t take it anymore” and providing some context based on what I’ve seen and experienced

I’m not doubting the commitment of the non match going fan who is a genuine supporter. Please note in wengers last year i only went twice myself as I got so fed up with the monotony. However what is true is that the non match going fan doesn’t really have the context, empathy and understanding of what’s happening generally so are far more liable to say irrational and absurd things. Genuinely when I read the comments of the likes of exiled, DHD, Steve, Darren and others down the years who attend games they seem more shall I say well centred than others who don’t and say things like requesting the managers dismissal for losing 2 games in a row or overpaying for overpriced English rubbish like Ramsdale and Ben white.

Thanks for your kind words.

Thanks for this posting and everything Roger x

Thanks for your kind words.

Such kind words, means so much, thank you.

I didn’t say you did say that anyone on the forum had said it. Reread my post.

You implied it and said I was arguing about it. Apology needed

Who will be 3rd and 4th has gotten very interesting. Outside shot at Liverpool making it interesting but I hope Newcastle does 2 things. Lose to us and nicks Tottenham and if not them Man Utd.

I think TG has a fair point that supporting the team in the stadium, especially away, is a special and quite different kind of relationship than spectating on TV or online. However, I don't think that defines how big a fan you are, as that would mean we have no more than about 60,000 true fans, and that is obviously not true. Those of us not there at the match still dance or cry at the result. There are many ways of being a fan.

I still get "goosebubbles" recalling matches I attended live. Of course not all stick in the memory, but being there never leaves you, in a way that watching from afar can't replicate. Those of us lucky enough, for instance, to have seen Henry against Liverpool, a venerable Dennis destroying Everton, Kanu unhinging Depo's keeper, Jose Antonio's bomb against Chelsea, or in prehistoric times, Big John Radford, Eddie Kelly and Jon Sammels against Anderlecht, will recall the crowd reaction in the ground as much as the football skills on show.

Woh, on the original site, fantastic.Thanks for your kind words.

Hi Judith, I remember Steve as an opinionated (in a good way) contributor to the forum, who (although there was the occasional banning!) was always keen to promote views that didn't necessarily line up with his. As an Australian forum member, based in Melbourne, I'm really sorry I never got to meet him.

I have always had a soft spot for Newcastle, so wouldn't it be good if they and their irrepressible fans get a little joy?

Thanks for your kind words, they mean a lot!

I remember meeting you, my grandson was at the grounds to see Arsenal vs Sporting Portuguese , he loved the atmosphere , but was disappointed with the result! Thanks for your very kind words, it means a lot!

Thanks for your very kind words, it means a lot!

Thanks for your very kind words!

Thanks for your very kind words, it means such a lot!

Thanks for your kind words, you can not imagine how much it means to me, I remember the names you are mentioning,Steve's life was Arsenal, this Forum and his family! He was very strict and had very high expectations of himself and others! At the start he was regularly approached to put adds on the forum, he was horrified, to make money out of Arsenal was un thinkable! We are very grateful to Warrior who has been just amazing in keeping this Forum going and the moderators. Thanks again.

As I said in my earlier post, he was approached to put on adds on the Forum and he was horrified, make money out of Arsenal???! Unthinkable !!! He was never money orientated, so that never pushed him on, he saw a need for somewhere for likeminded people to talk about what they loved and He loved Arsenal, from being a young boy, going to the games from Streatham come rain or shine, and editing/writing the magazine, was it called Gunflash ???? All beautiful memories!

Thanks for your very kind words, it means a lot!

Thanks for your very kind words !